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    As I'm new to this was looking best place to go for few days training on Lishi picking/decoding and basic programming transponders/remotes.

    Have MVP pro, fvdi, skp900, keydiy kd900 and x2, vvdi keytool, x pad 100 2 and Miracle A9 so would be looking training to use similar

    Is Hickley's the way to go ?

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    Where are you from?

    Know good teacher of Mr. Lee in Scotland, maybe he Will be a good choice, when isn't too far away for you
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy07 View Post
    Hello all

    As I'm new to this was looking best place to go for few days training on Lishi picking/decoding and basic programming transponders/remotes.

    Have MVP pro, fvdi, skp900, keydiy kd900 and x2, vvdi keytool, x pad 100 2 and Miracle A9 so would be looking training to use similar

    Is Hickley's the way to go ?

    Thanks in advance
    Interesting to know how you ended up with these machines and now wanting training.

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    Done a lot of reading and bought machines as I went along. Have run businesses in the past until I took 2 heart attacks so was looking something I could do part time so looked at this. That’s all. Based in N.Ireland but will travel to Scotland or England to train if anyone is interested

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    Tfu tfu tfu in this job possibility to get third heart atack is huge. When you brick a car think twice
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    After the last business I had this is a little less stressful

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    Sorry to hear gone through two heart attacks, you now need to keep your self-active and if interested you can start the course in Manchester lots of cheap accommodations contact them hear. http://www.tradelocks.co.uk/blog/tra...ining-courses/
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    Thanks for this 👍🏻

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    the training available in the uk isnt that useful , the training offered by suppliers is geared up as a sales exercise to promote the items they sell . no training course will give you any level of competence , this still takes bench time and alot of practice . with regards lishi picking and decoding theres plenty of guides avaialble and videos that teach you everything a course teaches you , you just practice on your own bench rather than someone elses . the best way to learn to use lishi is to sit down with tools and locks and practice .

    with programming , most programmers are menu driven , so not alot is shown here , normally just how to navigate the menu , any live cars will be cars with no issues that work , so if you already know how to navigate the menu structures you have almost what you will get shown on a course, the rest you can pick up at trade shows and events .

    none of the courses teach removing locks from cars , stripping them rekeying them etc in any detail , when it comes to eeprom work some teach soldering and desoldering chips but not removing the ecu units etc .

    all training courses in uk can only be viewed as very basic training , that give you some basic skills and knowledge , none elevate you to a level of competency , the only way to reach a competent level is to spend alot of time practicing and researching which is a necessity with or without training.

    in usa they take and deliver training far more in depth and far more seriously and training is delivered by experienced auto locksmiths who actually make their living doing the job rather than just talking a good job. in uk its largely just easy money for some that struggle to earn from doing the job and from suppliers promoting kit , the true training and learning happens on your own bench and competency depends what time you dedicate to this .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy07 View Post
    Done a lot of reading and bought machines as I went along. Have run businesses in the past until I took 2 heart attacks so was looking something I could do part time so looked at this. That’s all. Based in N.Ireland but will travel to Scotland or England to train if anyone is interested
    Fair enough. Take it easy with your condition. Wish you the best.

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    Thank you everyone for your input. Yes seen training advertised and a lot of companies offer discounted equipment on the day does seem very much a sales push. Suppose it’s practice and study and learn as I go

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    When I decided to make this job seriously I bought 20 different car locks to have something to practice openings. That times came the Lishi picks out to the market... Nothing can give you more Than your own experience, and knowing that you can open that lock.
    Important is, that the locks have Always an easier direction. Dosen't matter if you open IT to the locking direction, if you have a plug spinner.
    Another important things is, that you shouldn't buy turbodecoder, coz IT won't open too many times compared tó its price. Lishi is much more better.

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    with regards lishi tools , there is no magic training that makes you competent , using lishi is all about perfecting the right tension and developing feel , feel is a personal thing , you cant teach people to feel nor how to process what they feel , this can only be achieved by having a tool and a lock in front of you . tension is key to success , feel you develop over time with practice , understanding comes from examing and working on the locks , the available guides help with info on key rules , specific lock needs and tips and hints , the rest comes in time.
    so stripping down a lock on the bench , allows you to see how its constructed , what the tool is interacting with and how , knowing this helps you to process what you are feeling as you have a mental image of whats going on , as well as develop old fashioned skills that come in useful when you need to strip a lock, a skill many overlook that opens up many doors.

    ive been to shows all over the world and many times in usa , the one thing that stands out at the usa shows more than anywhere else is the lock and component knowledge and product knowledge , they all strip locks for fun , they know their systems , their keys and their locks, the foundations of the job and role of a locksmith, they learn their craft from basics up , at uk shows if the computer says no many are screwed as these foundation skills are missing , only a small percentage can strip and rebuild a lock , or have basic knowledge on even removing a lock or even how it works and whats inside it , they lack the foundations to build on properly and we all know what can happen if you have weak foundations.

    90% you can learn yourself , how quickly depends how dedicated you are and the time and effort you put in to it.

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    have a chat to an auto locksmith in newton ards , barry is an excellent auto locksmith in most areas and may be able to give you some pointers

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    save your money and do the hard work
    will make you better locksmith in the end

    is there a shortcut to any trade v experience?

 

 
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