Fiat 500 Flip Key Precoding

**rob h** · 8th December, 2018, 01:39 PM

If some replace these triggered bsi.
That would mean that data in eeprom or flash would be corrupt.

Just guessing here, like i say, no alarmsysteem fitted in my country.

**lidons** · 8th December, 2018, 01:45 PM

I do not know that system with alarm, but I suppose if you make a key with a transponder emulator (CN3 or id46handy or similar) of an activated key and start the car, you could remove the encryption or blocking system to add keys, a question to try this He passed.
I only speak without knowing of having worked with a type of bsi blocked by alarm.
keep me informed, I would like to learn that

**drugowaz** · 8th December, 2018, 03:24 PM

I first time hear that if open car and do akl by obd on fiat systems blocks bsi. Looks like noncence to me.

**jodge** · 8th December, 2018, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by drugowaz

I first time hear that if open car and do akl by obd on fiat systems blocks bsi. Looks like noncence to me.

it's exist on fiat 500 delphi bsi with blue connector (no external eeprom only obd read-write working bcose it's locked mcu) and factory alarm.

**drugowaz** · 8th December, 2018, 06:56 PM

So what is aproach in akl? Remove bsi and read on bench by can?

**jodge** · 8th December, 2018, 10:28 PM

Personally i don't met this problem, bcose in my country not shipped those cars with factory alarm. I tried to find the relevant posts from the past year but i didn't found yet.
The official way is replacing the BSI like the new Ford Transit. (except you can read the transit with BDM)
I think the main difference is the already locked MCU. You can't connect to this on bench with programmer only thru CAN and when the alarm is lock down the CAN connection, then there is a checkmate. No bdm no can. Nothing.
Anyway no big deal the secondhand bsi is cheap

**hananmori12** · 9th December, 2018, 01:24 AM

Someone know if lonsdor k518 can do this Fiat 500?

And what the diffrent between Tmpro2, Tango, Tm100?
They are all do the same?

**newone** · 9th December, 2018, 07:21 AM

Originally Posted by hananmori12

Someone know if lonsdor k518 can do this Fiat 500?

And what the diffrent between Tmpro2, Tango, Tm100?
They are all do the same?

tmpro can precode remote,tango and tm100 no

**hananmori12** · 9th December, 2018, 10:55 AM

vvdi prog can read the bin file from the bsi?
and precode with tmpro?

**paulsta** · 9th December, 2018, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by hananmori12

Someone know if lonsdor k518 can do this Fiat 500?

And what the diffrent between Tmpro2, Tango, Tm100?
They are all do the same?

Lonsdor will do fiat 500, its in the tested list with the same bsi as the grande punto (i did the punto AKL)

**hananmori12** · 9th December, 2018, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by paulsta

Lonsdor will do fiat 500, its in the tested list with the same bsi as the grande punto (i did the punto AKL)

Yes i saw that they release update on October and the Fiat 500 on the list, but i want to make sure that someone try it, thank you

**paulsta** · 9th December, 2018, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by hananmori12

Yes i saw that they release update on October and the Fiat 500 on the list, but i want to make sure that someone try it, thank you

Why cant you try it?
Its the same bsi as the grande punto which i tried before anyone else!
It would be nice for some feedback from you and just for your informtion someone did fiat 500 using grande punto even before the update

**hananmori12** · 9th December, 2018, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by paulsta

Why cant you try it?
Its the same bsi as the grande punto which i tried before anyone else!
It would be nice for some feedback from you and just for your informtion someone did fiat 500 using grande punto even before the update

I dont have the Lonsdor, because that im asking.
I need tool for Fiat 500 and i search the cheap option because here on usa have just 500 model and i have all the tool that i need except this one

**rob h** · 9th December, 2018, 03:18 PM

500 might be covered, up to 2012 by lonsdor.
Not sure that they prepare the remote.
Io terminal would be best, 2007-2017 500 obd.

And the Tm100, is a fvdi tagkeytool clone.

**hananmori12** · 9th December, 2018, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by rob h

500 might be covered, up to 2012 by lonsdor.
Not sure that they prepare the remote.
Io terminal would be best, 2007-2017 500 obd.

And the Tm100, is a fvdi tagkeytool clone.

Io terminal will do it with precode and everything though the obd?
What the price for this tool?
I didn’t find a distribution on usa