Fiat Ducato(250) 2012 CNG/petrol Remote Key precoding

[TERMINATOR1000]

my friends thank you very much with your help i made it a succes

of course , everybody can do this job with old tool , cheap tool , on table ....
this is the old BSI ! old ID48key !

[Staafonline]

of course , everybody can do this job with old tool , cheap tool , on table ....
this is the old BSI ! old ID48key !

you're wrong its ID46 PCF7946 marelli remote, see you don't know everything... if you have proof you can do CNG with your obdtool make a video and why not reply 1 year ago when i made this topic?

[patrickmk3]

hi again,

i read the chip so know i have the pin and i try it is correct.
but than i wanted to make transponder id46 pcf7946 with effi because i want remote key.
effi write transponder but than the file for eeprom it save is all 00
so thats not working for me or i do something wrong ?
than autel read the immo data but its not correct some data is and some data is not.
than i put read of upa in autel tool and it give me data error so thats not possible to.
now at this moment i am trying to make dealer key with lonsdor.
i put the bin file i made with upa of eeprom on lonsdor and will try if it than can make a dealer key sucsesful.
* ok i tryed that now lonsdor make key sucsesfull.
but it give me to option:
pcf7946 (8pin)
pcf7946 (10pin/16pin)
i am using vvdi chip xp27 so i dont think it will make a differance but i will post the result.

little bit more info:
old key is 8 pin so i will use that.
lonsdor can read data correctly i believe because after i generate dealer key it give me the correct pincode to.
so the way i see it now is read data of bsi with programmer.
than use empty pcf7946 transponder for key with remote and pcf7936 for key without remote.
than put the bin file you read with programmer on lonsdor and make a dealer key.
and than program true obd.

[patrickmk3]

well it almost worked.
the dealer key i made with lonsdor i could not program it with lonsdor to the car.
but with autel im608 i can program it to the car.
only problem is old remote 3 button all correct.
new remote 3 button
button open is trunk
button trunk is trunk
and button close dont do anything.
this was with vvdi key for magnetti bsi.
tomorrow wil try KD key.
both not work than maybe lonsdor dont do it correct

[Staafonline]

well it almost worked.
the dealer key i made with lonsdor i could not program it with lonsdor to the car.
but with autel im608 i can program it to the car.
only problem is old remote 3 button all correct.
new remote 3 button
button open is trunk
button trunk is trunk
and button close dont do anything.
this was with vvdi key for magnetti bsi.
tomorrow wil try KD key.
both not work than maybe lonsdor dont do it correct

Dont use effi, cracked effi has lots of bugs.
You need to precode remote for smd thats on the new remote not old remote most have 10 pin smd on chinakeys, lots have been written on this already search forum.

[TERMINATOR1000]

you're wrong its ID46 PCF7946 marelli remote, see you don't know everything... if you have proof you can do CNG with your obdtool make a video and why not reply 1 year ago when i made this topic?

No you're wrong , id 48 or id 46 all tool can do it in 2 minutes , particularly Lonsdor , this topic is simply an newbie joke , and everybody jump !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dont use effi, cracked effi has lots of bugs.
You need to precode remote for smd thats on the new remote not old remote most have 10 pin smd on chinakeys, lots have been written on this already search forum.

jump !!!!

[Staafonline]

No you're wrong , id 48 or id 46 all tool can do it in 2 minutes , particularly Lonsdor , this topic is simply an newbie joke , and everybody jump !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



jump !!!!

Man you're making a fool of yourself again and probably never worked on a Ducato 250 CNG. Instead you should actually help and give advice, not insult. Oh for you information Lonsdor never worked on ducato CNG no precode, no pincode no, program key if it did that would have made my life so much easier. Have a lot of cngs came in here because others wont touch it, because no comms on OBD

[TERMINATOR1000]

Man you're making a fool of yourself again and probably never worked on a Ducato 250 CNG. Instead you should actually help and give advice, not insult. Oh for you information Lonsdor never worked on ducato CNG no precode, no pincode no, program key if it did that would have made my life so much easier. Have a lot of cngs came in here because others wont touch it, because no comms on OBD

obd2 is on BSI , why don't com ? Yes you'r wright , i use I-O terminal & never fail + Multiecuscan . I use Lonsdor only for fast job ...

[p1et]

Terminator with all due to respect, you were wrong saying it's ID48 and you should better just correct your mistake instead insulting and teaching others.

And now, please everyone chill and have a nice weekend

[TERMINATOR1000]

Terminator with all due to respect, you were wrong saying it's ID48 and you should better just correct your mistake instead insulting and teaching others.

And now, please everyone chill and have a nice weekend

hello , all is OK , yes i said bullshit ...

[Manta1600]

well it almost worked.
the dealer key i made with lonsdor i could not program it with lonsdor to the car.
but with autel im608 i can program it to the car.
only problem is old remote 3 button all correct.
new remote 3 button
button open is trunk
button trunk is trunk
and button close dont do anything.
this was with vvdi key for magnetti bsi.
tomorrow wil try KD key.
both not work than maybe lonsdor dont do it correct

Few people reported that XH Marelli doesnt work corect
I think that KD also can't work

Buy quality key with real PCF7946 and maybe will work with your tools

[patrickmk3]

Few people reported that XH Marelli doesnt work corect
I think that KD also can't work

Buy quality key with real PCF7946 and maybe will work with your tools

yeah indeed.
i tryed xh and kd now and both not correct.
i used xh before on many citroen jumper but for this one it doisnt work well.
i will order some original keys for this car.

[patrickmk3]

hello every one i wanted to give some feedback.
some days ago i worked together with engineers of vvdi and lonsdor and autel.
the vvdi keys for marelli can now work on cng version.
also autel im608 can make the dealer key with sucses now the same for lonsdor.
all options work now.
read and write eeprom true obd with autel im608 annalyse data is already correct pin now and key ids on correct position.
maybe some one will benefit from this information in the future thats why i wanted to add it to the topic
for lonsdor the update is already there.
for autel it will come soon i think because i have beta version now but i inform them already it worked correct so everybody should get the update soon i think.

greetings patrick.