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    I installed complete engines and setups for my 2.0 16v-Sirius 32 vehicle. (clio rsi swap) The air conditioner turns on, rpm does not rise. Which end does the A / C signal enter at the ECU? I researched Pinout, about 4 pin ac pin (46,23,10 .....) but it's all out pin.
    Which end does the A / C signal enter at the ECU? for rpm increase
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    i assume that wiring harness is form donor car? what was the donor car?

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    donor 2000 laguna 2.0 16v f4r engine,ecu sirius 32 and harness
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    The ECU needs to understand that the air conditioner is turned on and raise the rpm. But how?

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    it was laguna ph1? if yes ac control panel is connected to ecu in pins 10(violet), 23(white/black), 88 (green)

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    [QUOTE = wodorof; 3774489] laguna ph1 miydi? evet ise ac kontrol paneli, 10 (mor), 23 (beyaz / siyah), 88 (yeşil) pinlerinde ecu'ya bağlanır [/ QUOTE]

    I made the car from the beginning with another engine and installation. I added the air conditioner later.ecu also has air conditioning features. I can not find the input that regulates idle according to the condition of the air conditioner. How does the ecu understand the air conditioner movement signal?
    (Also, entry 83 is not related to the air conditioning.)
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    Hi,
    If you want original wiring diagrams send both VIN of cars and i'll try to find them.
    Greetings,

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    Are you sure that is A/C problem? last year I made same thing to my friend on clio, yust engine was frome megane coupe. RPM raised on 1500rpm. One driver in ECU was burned in instalation of the engine, one wire we found that is without isolation....

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    [QUOTE = Louislesinge; 3775069] Merhaba,
    Orijinal kablo şemalarını arabaların her iki VIN'ini gönderip onları bulmaya çalışacağım.
    Selamlar, [/ Alıntı]
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    [QUOTE = tomic19; 3775081] Klima sorununun olduğundan emin misiniz? geçen yıl clio üzerinde arkadaşım için aynı şeyi yaptım, motor frome megane coupe oldu. RPM 1500 rpm'de yükseltildi. ECU'daki bir sürücü motorun izolasyonunda yandı, bir telin izole edilmediğini gördük .... [/ QUOTE]

    My OEM air conditioner system is broken. I installed the installation externally. I
    trick ecu I need to raise rpm

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    Hi,
    Need to know VIN of your Clio RS, and donor's VIN by P.M. if you prefer, to try find wiring diagrams.
    Greetings,
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    Hi,
    Anyway i had a look at Laguna 556A with F4R780 Sirius 32 and compare it to Clio CB1S F4R732

    1) On Laguna:
    319 (A/C computer) send: signal of power consuption of compressor to ECU (120) PIN 10
    signal of electric windshield to ECU (120) PIN 88
    ECU (120) send to 319 authorisation or A/C prohibition from PIN 23 or from PIN 46

    About the manual of Clio RS Sirius32, here is a translation

    The injection computer is connected to the AC computer by two wires:
    - a wire from the injection computer to the CA computer on channel 10. Via this wire passes the authorization instruction or
    prohibiting compressor start-up.
    - a wire from the AC computer to the injection computer on channel 23 (if it is a Power information signal
    Absorbed) or channel 46 (if it is a logical link).
    When the AC switch is actuated, the AC computer requests that the compressor be started. The
    injection computer authorizes or not the clutch of the compressor and imposes if necessary an idling speed
    accelerated by 150 rpm. max. additional to nominal speed (a few seconds may elapse before
    stabilization of the regime).

    2)If you can connect CLIP to identify the Vdiag of the Sirius 32, have a look at this:

    This calculator can work with five types of air conditioning.
    For Vdiag 4 and 8:
    * Twingo = Logical connection with variable displacement compressor.
    * Espace = Logical connection with compressor with fixed displacement.
    * Laguna = Reduced infoPA link with fixed displacement compressor.
    * Clio / Kangoo / Mégane / Scenic = Complete infoPA link with variable displacement compressor.
    For Vdiag 0C and 10:
    To be able to precisely identify the type of air conditioning fitted to the vehicle, refer to the Reading of
    configuration "LC060: Type of air conditioning-> injection connection" and read:
    * State 1 = Logical connection with variable displacement compressor.
    * State 2 = Complete PA info link with variable displacement compressor.
    * State 3 = Reduced PA info link with fixed displacement compressor.
    * State 4 = Logical link with compressor with fixed displacement.
    * State 5 = Logical link with acquisition of air conditioning pressure.
    NOTE: Only the air conditioning in connection with Absorbed Power Info can report a connection fault with the
    injection computer.
    COMPRESSOR START-UP STRATEGY
    In certain operating phases, the injection computer prohibits the operation of the compressor.
    compressor operation is prohibited:
    - after starting the engine for 16 seconds, depending on the power requested from the engine by the
    driver, if the bottom is not recognized, if the speed is less than 550 rpm. (it is re-engaged if the plan
    reaches 1800 rpm), in case the water temperature is higher than 110 ° C and the engine speed is
    over 6000 rpm.

    Greetings,
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    [QUOTE = Louislesinge; 3776541] Merhaba,
    Neyse, F4R780 Sirius 32 ile Laguna 556A'ya baktım ve Clio CB1S F4R732 ile karşılaştırdım

    1) Laguna'da:
    319 (A / C bilgisayar) gönderme: ECU'ya kompresörün güç tüketimi sinyali (120)
    ECU'ya elektrikli ön camın PIN 10 sinyali (120) PIN 88
    ECU (120), PIN 23'ten veya PIN 46'dan 319 yetkilendirme veya A / C yasağı gönderme

    Clio RS Sirius32 kılavuzu hakkında, bir çeviri

    Enjeksiyon bilgisayar AC bilgisayara iki kablo ile bağlanır:
    - enjeksiyon bilgisayarından kanal 10'daki CA bilgisayarına bir kablo. Bu kablo ile yetkilendirme talimatını geçer veya
    kompresör başlatmayı yasaklar.
    - AC bilgisayardan kanal 23'teki enjeksiyon bilgisayarına (
    Absorbe edilmiş bir Güç bilgi sinyali ise ) veya kanal 46'ya (mantıklı bir bağlantıysa) bir kablo .
    AC anahtarı etkinleştirildiğinde, AC bilgisayarı kompresörün başlatılmasını ister.
    Enjeksiyon bilgisayar Yetki Verdi veya kompresör olup, kavrama ve yüklemektedir gerekli bir rölanti devir sayısı ise
    150 rpm'de ile hızlandırılabilir. mak. nominal hıza ek olarak (
    rejimin dengelenmesinden önce birkaç saniye geçebilir ).

    2) Sirius 32'nin Vdiag'ını tanımlamak için CLIP bağlayabilirseniz, şuna bakın:

    Bu hesap makinesi beş tip klima ile çalışabilir.
    Vdiag 4 ve 8 için:
    * Twingo = Değişken deplasmanlı kompresör ile mantıksal bağlantı.
    * Espace = Sabit deplasmanlı kompresör ile mantıksal bağlantı.
    * Laguna = Sabit deplasmanlı kompresör ile azaltılmış infoPA bağlantısı.
    * Clio / Kangoo / Mégane / Scenic = Değişken deplasmanlı kompresör ile komple infoPA bağlantısı.
    Vdiag 0C ve 10 için:
    Araca takılan klima tipini tam olarak tanımlayabilmek için
    "LC060: Klima tipi-> enjeksiyon bağlantısı" konfigürasyonunun okunması ve okuma:
    * Durum 1 = değişken deplasmanlı kompresör.
    * Durum 2 = Değişken deplasmanlı kompresör ile komple PA bilgi bağlantısı.
    * Durum 3 = Sabit deplasmanlı kompresör ile azaltılmış PA bilgi bağlantısı.
    * Durum 4 = Sabit deplasmanlı kompresörlü mantıksal bağlantı.
    * Durum 5 = Klima basıncının elde edilmesiyle mantıksal bağlantı.
    NOT: Yalnızca Absorbe Power Info ile bağlantılı klima,
    enjeksiyon bilgisayarıyla bir bağlantı hatası bildirebilir .
    KOMPRESÖR ÇALIŞTIRMA STRATEJİSİ
    Bazı çalışma aşamalarında, enjeksiyon bilgisayarı kompresörün çalışmasını yasaklar.
    kompresörün çalışması yasaktır:
    - 16 saniye motor çalıştırıldıktan sonra,
    sürücü tarafından motordan istenen güce bağlı olarak , taban tanınmazsa, hız 550 rpm'den düşükse. (planın
    1800 rpm'ye ulaşması durumunda tekrar devreye girer ), su sıcaklığı 110 ° C'den yüksek ve motor devri
    6000 rpm'nin üzerinde.

    Selamlar, [/ Alıntı]
    As far as I understand, ecu activates the air conditioner by taking more than one authority. I'm confused 🙃. So how do I do the air conditioning rpm upgrade with a simple operation now?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adn05 View Post
    I installed complete engines and setups for my 2.0 16v-Sirius 32 vehicle. (clio rsi swap) The air conditioner turns on, rpm does not rise. Which end does the A / C signal enter at the ECU? I researched Pinout, about 4 pin ac pin (46,23,10 .....) but it's all out pin.
    Which end does the A / C signal enter at the ECU? for rpm increase
    I seems that Pin 23 is for incomming signal from A/C dash. You could try to send 12V with a little 3W lamp into this pin to see what happens...

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    [QUOTE = Louislesinge; 3777313] Pin 23'ün klima panosundan gelen sinyal için olduğu anlaşılıyor. Ne olduğunu görmek için bu pime küçük bir 3W lamba ile 12V göndermeyi deneyebilirsiniz ...

    Bize iyi eğitiminizi kanıtlamak için sol taraftaki "teşekkürler" veya "itibar" düğmelerimize basmanız için üzgünüm.
    Selamlar, [/ Alıntı]
    Thank you . I will try

 

 

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