Autotuner or Bflash?

[kubuswujo]

HI!

Now i have:
KTAG ori
KESS clone
Flex ori

I plan to by second tool which reads OBD and on table ECU-s. I consider beetwen Bflash and Autotuner. I got better price for Bflash but Autotuner do not have subs so price is not a value.
Maybe someone have both of them, and can compere?
Bflash has Blog but Autotuner will also have log module as i know.

Both are release protocol very fast.
Which is better?
Which do more new cars 2016+?
Looking on long term what is a better choice?

I know that are also other tools like VF2 Flasher and Dfox maybe they are better choice?

[Lambda1]

bFlash 4900€ excl. taxes,
Autotuner 4900€ excl. taxes.

bFlash you can also BTrace and connect to WinOls ... for track and trace.
Biggest point for autotuner, no subs.

[flag]

you have enough tools, you are completed, don't spend money because you have the best tools in the world that is flex. flex is better than autotuner and better than bflash, if you want know which tool is better between autotuner and blfash, i suggest you bflash . but all tools have less ecu's than flex

[Lambda1]

There is no best tool... only better for specific job... flex and bFlash and Autotuner... all have advantages and disadvantages.

[Mooti]

I think MagProv2 is a good programmer

[flag]

magrpo is replaced by flex, no more magpro. now the magpro company produce flex

[kubuswujo]

i would not agree because x17 and flex cracked ecu several times, espessialy edc16 vag and bmw via OBD.
All times i manage to repair them with Magicmotorsport Support but its nervous and takes time.

FLEX is okej but i am not sure its the best tool ever it depends on ECU.

And flex also does not support new Ecus as speed as Autotuner or Beflash, thats why i want to have next tool to cover As soon as possible new ECUS.

[figani]

I personally not own a Autotunertool, but sometimes use it from my friend...
if Alientech/pcmflash/bitbox/Tgflash, a.s.o. don´t have a solution and or it take longer, like boot for example...

but, very often Autotunertool solution don´t works...
we try to make a SDI21.3 by VR and writing was not possible...
we try also an oldie Delphi CRD11 by OBD, was released a couple a weeks a go, even ecu id was not possible...
Delphi dcm 6.2c mounted on PSA car, by obd it was not possible to read...

normally other solutions are also working, and sometimes he write me that he will came up with a car/ecu to do it with my tools because obd and boot are failing...

I think tool and Sw are OK, but it will take longer time for them to get all working what they advertised...

[Myjector]

I'm having almost all tools.
I can tell you we use now autotuner for 95% of the cars we map
We dumped flex because the protocols not always worked and bricked some stuff
Autotuner will add EDC16 bench solution and Live data plugin soon

[SpecZ]

I choose CMD in any day!

Br.

Michael