Bmw e65 all keys lost keyless urgent situation

[ramboguy2008]

Hey there is situation where customer has keyless and lost all keys in bmw e65 2008 year. I have only cas1 regular remote.
Question is can i make key with vvdi2 at least to start the car with the regular remote ?
Can i program the key with transponder or only way to start this car is to have keyless remote ?


i also have this xhorse universal proximity remote but there is no way to generate remote for cas 1 car https://www.vvdishop.com/wholesale/x...imity-key.html

[rob h]

A regular remote key, yes.
A transponder, if you add it to the dump, then that should work.
You will need a key casing.

Or get yourself a org remote key, used and unlock it.

[ramboguy2008]

A regular remote key, yes.
A transponder, if you add it to the dump, then that should work.
You will need a key casing.

Or get yourself a org remote key, used and unlock it.

what is very strange he says that his key looks like bmw f10 key .But the car is 2008 year and it is 100% bmw e65. it is supposed to be cas1 in that car

[rob h]

Some program F series style keys, to e series
This only realy works on keyless.
They tansfer the pcf to a F series smartkey.

[ramboguy2008]

Some program F series style keys, to e series
This only realy works on keyless.
They tansfer the pcf to a F series smartkey.

ok this is photo of the car now tools that i have is vvdi2 , i have also cas4 test platform do i need to remove cas to make key on bench or can i do it in car via obd ?

[ramboguy2008]

Ok it seems that car is f02 with cas 4 system and that is the problem now can the key be made without isn number ?

[rob h]

Read isn from ecu.

[ramboguy2008]

Read isn from ecu.

i dont have isn cable to read with vvdi2 .It seems that i wont be able to help this person.I learn on mistakes i need to buy now isn cable.

[rob h]

Some you can read by obd, even without working key.

[ramboguy2008]

Some you can read by obd, even without working key.

read isn via obd ? well i know if this car is cas4 that i can make key but the problem is if it is cas4 + then i have problem.

car vin last 7 is cy51111 is there anyway to know is this cas4 or cas4+

[rob h]

I did read the isn, from 2 different f series.
Both with fem unit.
Vvdi2 forces igntion on,
Really cool feature, and then reads the isn, if the ecu is supported.

[ramboguy2008]

I did read the isn, from 2 different f series.
Both with fem unit.
Vvdi2 forces igntion on,
Really cool feature, and then reads the isn, if the ecu is supported.

ok where do you go in options to see isn via obd ?
this car is not fem for sure because it is 2008 year . What i am struggling is to find out is the car cas4 or cas4+. Customer is 250km far from me so i would like to find out somehow

[rob h]

Very likely, cas4. So using vvdiprog, will do.
If you do need isn, just follow menu in vvdi2.

You can allways collect cas4, ecu and doorlock, and visit a Colleague.

[ramboguy2008]

Very likely, cas4. So using vvdiprog, will do.
If you do need isn, just follow menu in vvdi2.

You can allways collect cas4, ecu and doorlock, and visit a Colleague.

i only have vvdi2 and cas4 test platform i dont have programmer now.so if the car is cas4 then i dont need isn but with the cas4+ isn is needed. So there is no way by vin number to know if it is cas4 or cas4+ ? well i hope it is cas4 not + version

[p1et]

This is first year of production 7 series F series so this must be cas4 (not cas4), unless updated via dealership but most likely will be cas4 so go ahead, read cas with vvdi prog.