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    Hello I dont understand very well how it is the process for correcting mileage in this car with tacho universal.
    In my Deutsh pdf it seems there are two ways one KM and one KM AND FLASH . I dont speak any germany, and translations are very incomprehensive.

    Also it says i need cable c+e klasse and it doesnt exist in the list so i supose it is new mb can cable. I have this cable.

    I post entire instructions,so anyone could help me.

    "
    Benutzen Sie den C+E -Klasse-Tachostecker & Can Hardware
    ?
    Ziehen Sie das Kombiinstrument aus dem Armaturenbrett heraus.

    ? Verbinden Sie den C+E-Klasse-Tachostecker mit dem Tacho und dem Can Hardware & Tacho Universal .

    ? W?hlen Sie im Tacho Universal die gew?nschte programmierungs- art

    ? E-Klasse Can Diag W211/209 Men?punkt "KM" : Das Tacho wird mit dem neuen Kilometerstand programmiert. Das Z?ndschloss muss programmiert werden, damit der neue Stand im Fahrzeug angezeigt werden. Men?punkt "KM+Flash" : Das Tacho wird mit dem neuen Kilometerstand programmiert. Das Z?ndschloss muss nicht programmiert werden, sondern es wird der automatische Standabgleich unterdr?ckt.

    ? Der Tacho Universal zeigt Ihnen nicht den alten Kilometerstand an
    Sondern
    ??????.

    ? Geben Sie den neuen KM-Stand ein.

    ? Best?tigen Sie den neuen KM-Stand mit OK
     
    Achtung !
    Wenn Sie das Z?ndschloss unbedingt hochsetzen wollen dann bitte wie folgt:
    Erst "KM+Flash" und einen niedrigeren Stand probieren. Wenn nach Einbau, das Tacho den niedrigen Stand anzeigt und auch beh?lt, dann das Tacho mit "KM" hochsetzen, einbauen, warten und mit "KM" wieder aufden gew?nschten Stand setzen.
    Mercedes Seite 28
    Bitte unbedingt Beachten vor dem Programmieren
    Auf die richtige reinfolge "

    any help will be appreciated.

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    I have read in other post in forum that this model does not need to remove cluster, so my information it is not well, can anyone help me about connector and instructions must i use for these model.

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    hi there is no point trying to adjust millage cos it is also kept in other control modules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GolfmkI View Post
    Hello I dont understand very well how it is the process for correcting mileage in this car with tacho universal.
    In my Deutsh pdf it seems there are two ways one KM and one KM AND FLASH . I dont speak any germany, and translations are very incomprehensive.

    Also it says i need cable c+e klasse and it doesnt exist in the list so i supose it is new mb can cable. I have this cable.

    I post entire instructions,so anyone could help me.

    "
    Benutzen Sie den C+E -Klasse-Tachostecker & Can Hardware

    ?
    Ziehen Sie das Kombiinstrument aus dem Armaturenbrett heraus.

    ? Verbinden Sie den C+E-Klasse-Tachostecker mit dem Tacho und dem Can Hardware & Tacho Universal .

    ? W?hlen Sie im Tacho Universal die gew?nschte programmierungs- art

    ? E-Klasse Can Diag W211/209 Men?punkt "KM" : Das Tacho wird mit dem neuen Kilometerstand programmiert. Das Z?ndschloss muss programmiert werden, damit der neue Stand im Fahrzeug angezeigt werden. Men?punkt "KM+Flash" : Das Tacho wird mit dem neuen Kilometerstand programmiert. Das Z?ndschloss muss nicht programmiert werden, sondern es wird der automatische Standabgleich unterdr?ckt.

    ? Der Tacho Universal zeigt Ihnen nicht den alten Kilometerstand an
    Sondern

    ??????.
    ? Geben Sie den neuen KM-Stand ein.


    ? Best?tigen Sie den neuen KM-Stand mit OK
     
    Achtung !
    Wenn Sie das Z?ndschloss unbedingt hochsetzen wollen dann bitte wie folgt:
    Erst "KM+Flash" und einen niedrigeren Stand probieren. Wenn nach Einbau, das Tacho den niedrigen Stand anzeigt und auch beh?lt, dann das Tacho mit "KM" hochsetzen, einbauen, warten und mit "KM" wieder aufden gew?nschten Stand setzen.

    Mercedes Seite 28
    Bitte unbedingt Beachten vor dem Programmieren

    Auf die richtige reinfolge "

    any help will be appreciated.



    its not so hard, km+flash and you don't have to program the EZS module (they change the cluster sofware so that the EZS has no influence on the cluster).

    If you choose KM then you have to take out the EZS and program it with a CAS programmer for example to 0 km.

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    And after that take out ZGS module and programm it also and so on...

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    Ok, i dont want to program no modules.

    So I use KM AND FLASH method.
    What about connector, in manual says mb c+e connector, but i dont find this connector , anyone with tacho univeral can help me. I think I must use MB can connector, that has a connector that it is direct to tha dashboard.

    Should be this connector ?
    Should i use other connector? Via Obd?

    If anyone has a pdf with some information it will be vbery appreciated.

    Thanks

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    So this is exact translation:


    "Use the C+E - class Tachostecker & CAN hardware
    • Pull the combination instrument out of the instrument panel.
    • Connect to the C+E class Tachostecker with the Tacho and CAN hardware & Tacho universal.
    • Select in the Tacho universal the desired programming of kind


    • E-class CAN Diag W211/209 menu option " KM" :
    The Tacho is programmed with the new odometer reading.
    The starter lock must be programmed,
    so that the new being located in the vehicle are indicated.
    Menu option " KM+Flash" : The Tacho is programmed with the
    new odometer reading. The starter lock does not have to be
    programmed, but the automatic condition alignment is suppressed



    • The Tacho universal shows you not the old odometer reading at separating ??????.
    • Enter the new mileage.
    • Confirm the new mileage with OK


    Note! If you the starter lock absolutely to advance want then please
    as follows: Only " KM+Flash" and lower conditions try.
    If after installation, which indicates and also keeps Tacho the low
    conditions, then the Tacho with " KM" advance, insert, wait
    and with " KM" set again aufden desired conditions.
    Mercedes page 28 Absolutely ask attention before programming
    After the correct clean-follow " any help fuel element wants
    appreciated.

    • Confirm the new mileage with OK"


    It is verry easy using "http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_txt"

    I do not know german, but......


    And those Mercedes dashboards you have to make both
    dash and EZS, also if it is E-klas then you have to make ZGW (zentrales gateway) There are written all of oil changes and other information

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    thanks but this translation i have done yet, but it is not very clear:

    Note! If you the starter lock absolutely to advance want then please
    as follows: Only " KM+Flash" and lower conditions try.
    If after installation, which indicates and also keeps Tacho the low
    conditions, then the Tacho with " KM" advance, insert, wait
    and with " KM" set again aufden desired conditions.
    Mercedes page 28 Absolutely ask attention before programming
    After the correct clean-follow " any help fuel element wants
    appreciated.


    And connector it is a problem, in list of connectors of the tacho universal it does not exist any c+e connector........

    So it seems there are other method with tacho universal (digimaster).


    But of course I?ll appreciate your help.

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    I was tryed before to read secured mcu from EZS(ignition) from MB W211 E-class, but without sucsess.
    Some other people says that Tacho Universal is not too safe to work with it.

    Better way is CAS reseter or ELT UPA Usb programmer


    Cable forr MB dash like W211 s not copleted with connector.
    Just cables.
    I'm uploading it, but only changing km in dash is not enought.
    Must change in EZS (ignition)
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    Yes this is my cable!!

    If I only change mileage in dash with KM + FLASH option in tacho universal??

    By this way no communication should be between tacho and EZS. Nothing could be broken, only have care because KM does not match???????

    Or you recomend me not to do anything if I have not way to programm EZS module???

    Sincerelly i would not like to reprogram any module, because I onle have Tacho Universal for the whole process.

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    If you change only in dash , and connect it in the car old milleage will back on the screen, like you did not do the dash.
    If there is no comunication between dash and car , so then there will be many problems.

    For newer model , where in EZS are inserted NEC processosr, so as i know there still not programmers to sell, so for those cars there are can filters, you have to do just dash, and connect filter between dash ans dash cable, so this hardware is lying car, that eerything is OK.

    But for w211 I do not know can be done in same way.
    And ofcourse, when you do w211 you have to do dash, ezs, and zgw. Then after fit all components in car must make diagnotic on all systems and clearing errors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yasser View Post
    If you change only in dash , and connect it in the car old milleage will back on the screen, like you did not do the dash.
    If there is no comunication between dash and car , so then there will be many problems.

    For newer model , where in EZS are inserted NEC processosr, so as i know there still not programmers to sell, so for those cars there are can filters, you have to do just dash, and connect filter between dash ans dash cable, so this hardware is lying car, that eerything is OK.

    But for w211 I do not know can be done in same way.
    And ofcourse, when you do w211 you have to do dash, ezs, and zgw. Then after fit all components in car must make diagnotic on all systems and clearing errors.

    Just clearing errors is not enough, what about the assyst plus (service maintenance records)? Old mileage is also hidden there. So keep it simple just program Km+flash if it's not your car :-) and use the MB -CAN cable, if you have a cable without connector just connect the wires (see schematic above).

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    can someone upload cable schema once again because i cant open it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gizmo666 View Post
    can someone upload cable schema once again because i cant open it?

    here you go m8 !!!!!!!
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    thanks!!! i really need this..

 

 
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