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    does anyone know which part this is (marked with a red arrow) ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilen View Post
    Hello,
    does anyone know which part this is (marked with a red arrow) ....
    thanks...

    It's an antenna coil
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    its not the antenna coil its a capacitor ore resistor

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    Quote Originally Posted by schouten1977 View Post
    its not the antenna coil its a capacitor ore resistor
    Do you ever open the card by cutter and break this component?

    i've did one and had found this compenent the change. Without this, no frequency go out!!!

    Take a look at pictures, card from Koles or Laguna PCF7941.

    So before saying the thing, maybe be sure that is your skill or your daily job.

    Also, the card posted abouve is dammaged by water if you're able to see that.
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    it's an inductor, lion measured the resistance in circuit, but it's not relevant here. You must know the core (ferrit or air, bcos it's RF stuff) and the H value
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    Quote Originally Posted by jodge View Post
    it's an inductor, lion measured the resistance in circuit, but it's not relevant here. You must know the core (ferrit or air, bcos it's RF stuff) and the H value

    That why i call simply antenna coil, mesured by ohm is just for information. From more than 20 years in electronic, Ohmeter give me if the coil is good or not.

    I don't really need to know what is real value because it's useless. Just take from used board when you can mesure by ohmeter.

    In the electronic job and in my country, find the same component is almost impossible.

    I need to use compatible because at least, job have to do by efficie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion0304 View Post
    Do you ever open the card by cutter and break this component?

    i've did one and had found this compenent the change. Without this, no frequency go out!!!

    Take a look at pictures, card from Koles or Laguna PCF7941.

    So before saying the thing, maybe be sure that is your skill or your daily job.

    Also, the card posted abouve is dammaged by water if you're able to see that.

    .........................
    Absolutely true, that is the coil in the antenna circuit.
    I didn't have the same one, I put a coil from a different card (I marked it in the photo)....
    now the card has a range of more than three meters ....

    Thenxx ....
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilen View Post
    .........................
    Absolutely true, that is the coil in the antenna circuit.
    I didn't have the same one, I put a coil from a different card (I marked it in the photo)....
    now the card has a range of more than three meters ....

    Thenxx ....

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    Quote Originally Posted by lion0304 View Post
    That why i call simply antenna coil, mesured by ohm is just for information. From more than 20 years in electronic, Ohmeter give me if the coil is good or not.

    I don't really need to know what is real value because it's useless. Just take from used board when you can mesure by ohmeter.

    In the electronic job and in my country, find the same component is almost impossible.

    I need to use compatible because at least, job have to do by efficie.

    my late electrical engineer tutor would rip you apart for this
    glad it's done
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    We don't talk about electronic field here, we talk about a specific component.

    And with experience, that is most important to repair electronic.

    Also i was formed to work with almost any electronic board repair, never use diagram (maybe when i study at begining)

    Engineer can do many thing in conception, buiding but not many efficie skill for repairing.....

    Theorical and real life pratice are 2 thing very diffrent, you can imagine what is could be when using, but never what exactly happen when it fail...

    You need read magazine or tuto to learn, i work every days in real case to learn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion0304 View Post
    We don't talk about electronic field here, we talk about a specific component.

    And with experience, that is most important to repair electronic.

    Also i was formed to work with almost any electronic board repair, never use diagram (maybe when i study at begining)

    Engineer can do many thing in conception, buiding but not many efficie skill for repairing.....

    Theorical and real life pratice are 2 thing very diffrent, you can imagine what is could be when using, but never what exactly happen when it fail...

    You need read magazine or tuto to learn, i work every days in real case to learn.
    Maybe you shouldn't assume this kind of things... we don't know each other and those misconceptions sometimes leading to harsh words
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    Quote Originally Posted by lion0304 View Post
    Do you ever open the card by cutter and break this component?

    i've did one and had found this compenent the change. Without this, no frequency go out!!!

    Take a look at pictures, card from Koles or Laguna PCF7941.

    So before saying the thing, maybe be sure that is your skill or your daily job.

    Also, the card posted abouve is dammaged by water if you're able to see that.
    iff i ore manny others talk abaut antenna coil renault card lion0304 than thats that the coil how recieve a signal ore send that is that bigg black plastic with thin copper wire around it manny times : manny times that is a failure loose contact!! to solder it again card will function again in manny cases!!by this card from this tread its also soldered again offcorse you also see this to ask me iff i opened with grinder ore iff i see waterdamage sorry that is not relevant lion0304 Be polite youre worths

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    Quote Originally Posted by schouten1977 View Post
    iff i ore manny others talk abaut antenna coil renault card lion0304 than thats that the coil how recieve a signal ore send that is that bigg black plastic with thin copper wire around it manny times : manny times that is a failure loose contact!! to solder it again card will function again in manny cases!!by this card from this tread its also soldered again offcorse you also see this to ask me iff i opened with grinder ore iff i see waterdamage sorry that is not relevant lion0304 Be polite youre worths
    I'm sure that you trust in what you write.

    But still wrong and you messe between transponder coil and antenna coil which are 2 diffrent thing and functions
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    https://www.google.com/search?q=ante...h=579&dpr=1.25 is this enauf lion0304 even google show me so when you order a antenna coil for a renault card you gett thiss
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    Quote Originally Posted by schouten1977 View Post
    https://www.google.com/search?q=ante...h=579&dpr=1.25 is this enauf lion0304 even google show me so when you order a antenna coil for a renault card you gett thiss

    Oh yeah i know all the youtube or google boys. Try again but for me is enough here.

    I don't loose my time with some one who don't know what is XT27, messe between coils, and ask to do Testa AKL.
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