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    Default Touran cluster swap immo

    Hello, i have a 2006 Touran with a bad cluster.
    It has micro 24CL32 eeprom
    And a donor cluster with atmel 24c16
    Is it possible to adapt it to car?
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    I believe the cluster with 24C16 is an older generation and not suitable for your 2006 Touran.

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    The main problem is that all the lights turn on, the gauges fall to the left and that repeats all the time.
    Error for airbag and other appear too on the screen.
    Fault code in engine ecu is p1650 - Databus Drive train:missing message from cluster
    The can bus is okay and measured with scope, when i put the new cluster on ignition the gauges dont play so i guess is the cluster.
    Im still open for ideas about adapting or reparing, i resoldered it but didint make a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqkaf View Post
    The main problem is that all the lights turn on, the gauges fall to the left and that repeats all the time.
    Error for airbag and other appear too on the screen.
    Fault code in engine ecu is p1650 - Databus Drive train:missing message from cluster
    The can bus is okay and measured with scope, when i put the new cluster on ignition the gauges dont play so i guess is the cluster.
    Im still open for ideas about adapting or reparing, i resoldered it but didint make a difference
    buy donor same as ori one - read immo data > write to donor - job done - if is comm with dash
    Last edited by rafal; 1st December, 2021 at 07:50 PM.
    need help
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    Customer brought another cluster, again all numbers the same
    All of the chips are the same this time, PCB the same, but the new one is with the bigger screen,(not separeted in 2 in the middle)
    After rewriting eeprom with the original cluster file the immo stays on.
    After swaping the 2 eeproms (resolder) the original cluster starts the car with the eeprom of the new one, but the other cant.
    Can it be adapted somehow or we have no luck again

    Another update, when the handbrake is pulled (light comes on the dash) all the problems dissapear.
    The second handbrake is released, the cluster(original) starts restarting and gauges to play.
    This is the same for on ignition or when engine is running.
    With the new cluster on ignition there is no problems.

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    what about micronas ?
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    Original is:
    CDC 3297G C1 36191
    205206.100 . 5422F
    6135

    Donor:
    CDC 3297G C1 36190
    208073.102 .5422F
    6316

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqkaf View Post
    Customer brought another cluster, again all numbers the same
    All of the chips are the same this time, PCB the same, but the new one is with the bigger screen,(not separeted in 2 in the middle)
    After rewriting eeprom with the original cluster file the immo stays on.
    After swaping the 2 eeproms (resolder) the original cluster starts the car with the eeprom of the new one, but the other cant.
    Can it be adapted somehow or we have no luck again

    Another update, when the handbrake is pulled (light comes on the dash) all the problems dissapear.
    The second handbrake is released, the cluster(original) starts restarting and gauges to play.
    This is the same for on ignition or when engine is running.
    With the new cluster on ignition there is no problems.
    show me picture with numbers of ori and donor
    and i wrote to you what need to be done m8................ in #4
    ----------- what tools for that job have you got ?
    need help
    now my goal is to buy xp-005
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nqkaf View Post
    Customer brought another cluster, again all numbers the same
    All of the chips are the same this time, PCB the same, but the new one is with the bigger screen,(not separeted in 2 in the middle)
    After rewriting eeprom with the original cluster file the immo stays on.
    After swaping the 2 eeproms (resolder) the original cluster starts the car with the eeprom of the new one, but the other cant.
    Can it be adapted somehow or we have no luck again

    Another update, when the handbrake is pulled (light comes on the dash) all the problems dissapear.
    The second handbrake is released, the cluster(original) starts restarting and gauges to play.
    This is the same for on ignition or when engine is running.
    With the new cluster on ignition there is no problems.
    yuo need to copy immo data file not the eprom file!
    if the cluster hase diferente screens yuo cannot copy entire eeprom file...
    and if the cluster are the same part number,same screen etc yuo also need to copy Micronas file...eeprom is paired it micronas!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cristo_844 View Post
    yuo need to copy immo data file not the eprom file!
    if the cluster hase diferente screens yuo cannot copy entire eeprom file...
    and if the cluster are the same part number,same screen etc yuo also need to copy Micronas file...eeprom is paired it micronas!
    #4 and #6...... All there
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    Double post.........
    need help
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    I have xprog carprog fvdi
    Attached Files Attached Files
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    i don't need pcb........... i need numbers m8.........
    anyway - all was posted here what should be done
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWxc-w6wZvU
    Last edited by rafal; 4th December, 2021 at 02:14 PM.
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    I read immo info with FVDI -> save file -> put new cluster -> write file -> car started (Thank you all)
    Now the problem is that the screen lights but doesnt show anything (as i said the new one is with the bigger screen)
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    Screen is working now, after putting original eeprom.
    But now i need help adapting the steering (02546, 00778 faults) and brakes (01435, 1423, 00778)
    Last edited by Nqkaf; 5th December, 2021 at 12:30 PM.

 

 
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