VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

**liviudiaconu** · 5th January, 2019, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by Elektrik1

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Which corresponds to:
!o18 = i11 & !i8;
!o16 = (i11 & !i7) # (!i6 & !i5 & !i2);
!o15 = !i5;
!o13 = (!f17 & !i6 & !i2) # !f14;
!o12 = !f17 & !i2;[/CODE]

100% match to 1024 combinations logic, will check to all possible pins and outputs. Attaching fully working 0x46 .JED

We made it!

0x46.JED:

Code:

CUPL(WM)        5.0a  Serial# 60008009
Device          g16v8as  Library DLIB-h-40-2
Created         Fri Jan 04 18:22:51 2019
Name            0x46 
Partno          00 
Revision        01 
Date            2019-01-04 
Designer        Elektrik 
Company         * 
Assembly        None 
Location        
*QP20 
*QF2194 
*G0 
*F0 
*L00256 11111111111111111111111110111110
*L00768 11111111111111111111101111111110
*L00800 10111111111110111011111111111111
*L01024 11111111111110111111111111111111
*L01536 10111111111111101011111111111111
*L01568 11111111111111111110111111111111
*L01792 10111111111111101111111111111111
*L02048 00000000001100000011000000100000
*L02112 00000000101001001111111111111111
*L02144 11111111111111111111111111111111
*L02176 111111111111111110
*C21AA
*A040

With this my compilation appear like..

Location
*QP20
*QF2194
*G1
*F0
*L00256 11111111111111111111111110111101
*L00768 10111111111110111011111111111111
*L00800 11111111111111111111101111111101
*L01024 11111111111110111111111111111111
*L01536 10111111111111101011111111111111
*L01568 11111111111111111110111111111111
*L01792 10111111111111101111111111111111
*L02048 00000000001100000011000000100000
*L02112 00000000101001001111111111111111
*L02144 11111111111111111111111111111111
*L02176 111111111111111110
*C222A
*A207

Which optimization used you?

And...

!o18 = i11 & !i8;
!o16 = (i11 & !i7) # (!i6 & !i5 & !i2);

For sure is not !i11?

**xoom** · 5th January, 2019, 12:32 PM

!o18 = i11 & !i8 < - is this should not to be like: !o18 = (!i11 & !i8) # (!i5 & !i9) ?

**liviudiaconu** · 5th January, 2019, 12:44 PM

i9 not used in 46..so..!i9 is 1 allways?

**xoom** · 5th January, 2019, 01:01 PM

it is used in both 0x44 and 0x46... FTDI TX pin goes there

**xoom** · 5th January, 2019, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by liviudiaconu

i9 not used in 46..so..!i9 is 1 allways?

hmm or maybe it doesn't checked china board and yes its not connected

but would be interesting to see original version

**liviudiaconu** · 5th January, 2019, 01:15 PM

I remember the year when i modified my first 704 with RL by rerouting 3 wires and rewrote GAL with "44".jed (see Aminebot file).
The FTDI Tx go to pin 5 GAL (STC, R50/R51/Reseter used too and desoldered)

So, for sure the pin 9 not used.

In my .jed two lines are reversed like in last 46.jed posted by Elektrik

*L00768 11111111111111111111101111111110
*L00768 10111111111110111011111111111111

*L00800 10111111111110111011111111111111
*L00800 11111111111111111111101111111110

Where i wrong?

I made only two modifications (without this the .jed is more different)

Elektrik say this:

PIN 18
---------------------------------------
(1) X = I
or K;

not X = not I and not K;
---------------------------------------

PIN 16
---------------------------------------
(1) X = I and M
or I and N
or I and Q
or L and M
or L and N
or L and Q;

not X = not I and not L
or not M and not N and not Q;
---------------------------------------

PIN 17 MAYBE 15...
---------------------------------------
(1) X = N;

not X = not N;
---------------------------------------

PIN 13
---------------------------------------
(1) X = C and F
or F and M
or F and Q;

not X = not C and not M and not Q
or not F;
---------------------------------------

PIN 12
---------------------------------------
(1) X = C
or Q;

not X = not C and not Q;
---------------------------------------

Which corresponds to:
!o18 = !i11 & !i8;
!o16 = (!i11 & !i7) # (!i6 & !i5 & !i2);
!o15 = !i5;
!o13 = (!f17 & !i6 & !i2) # !f14;
!o12 = !f17 & !i2;

With this obtained

*QP20
*QF2194
*G1
*F0
*L00256 11111111111111111111111110111110
*L00768 10111111111110111011111111111111
*L00800 11111111111111111111101111111110
*L01024 11111111111110111111111111111111
*L01536 10111111111111101011111111111111
*L01568 11111111111111111110111111111111
*L01792 10111111111111101111111111111111
*L02048 00000000001100000011000000100000
*L02112 00000000101001001111111111111111
*L02144 11111111111111111111111111111111
*L02176 111111111111111110
*C21AA
*A220

**liviudiaconu** · 5th January, 2019, 02:05 PM

Look difference RL46 vs BM 44 GAL to FTDI/Atmega pins

**Elektrik1** · 5th January, 2019, 04:05 PM

liviudiaconu, ,yeah PIN 15 there should be, typo. Sorry forgot to post the header, this is full project:

Code:

Name     0x46 ;
PartNo   00 ;
Date     2019-01-02 ;
Revision 01 ;
Designer Elektrik ;
Company  * ;
Assembly None ;
Location  ;
Device   g16v8a ;

/* *************** INPUT PINS *********************/
PIN 2    = i2                        ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 3    = i3                        ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 5    = i5                        ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 6    = i6                        ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 7    = i7                        ; /*                                 */
PIN 8    = i8                        ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 11   = !i11                       ; /*                                 */ 

/* *************** OUTPUT PINS *********************/
PIN 12   = o12                       ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 13   = o13                       ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 14   = f14                       ; /*                                 */
PIN 15   = o15                       ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 16   = o16                       ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 17   = f17                       ; /*                                 */ 
PIN 18   = o18                       ; /*                                 */
PIN 19   = f19                       ; /*                                 */ 

!o18 = i11 & !i8;
!o16 = (i11 & !i7) # (!i6 & !i5 & !i2);
!o15 = !i5;
!o13 = (!f17 & !i6 & !i2) # !f14;
!o12 = !f17 & !i2;

i11 is inverted in pin definition.

**Mrjitter** · 5th January, 2019, 06:14 PM

hi

Searching through my old files I found this ....

https://rapidgator.net/file/4ed94933..._love.zip.html

I think this file corresponds to a gal file of type 0x46 for the images found in the doc attached in the files.

the doc translate by google to english ...

https://rapidgator.net/file/91f7ea31...ru.en.doc.html

Please .... anyone can post the .jed gal file for 0x44 type ?

Regards

**heshamzn** · 5th January, 2019, 06:39 PM

how to power up vcds with 12 v i got the ordino programer and i shearched here no pic how to do it i cant do it in my car obd2 the operation will be done here at my home in which pins i connect the ac charger 12 v to the vcds ?

**Roma77** · 5th January, 2019, 06:49 PM

[QUOTE = Mrjitter; 3464667] hi

При поиске в моих старых файлах я нашел это ....

https://rapidgator.net/file/4ed94933..._love.zip.html

Я думаю, что этот файл соответствует файлу gal типа 0x46 для изображения, найденные в документе, прилагаемом к файлам.

Документ переведен Google на английский ...

https://rapidgator.net/file/91f7ea31...ru.en.doc.html

Пожалуйста .... кто-нибудь может опубликовать файл .jed gal для типа 0x44?

С уважением [/ QUOTE]
Пожалуйста

**C3H8** · 5th January, 2019, 07:29 PM

I wonder why pin 19 and pin 3 is not used any longer? Audi needs RX on L Line?!

**jan4** · 5th January, 2019, 08:32 PM

heshamzn

obd connector pin 16 + , 5 -

**Elektrik1** · 5th January, 2019, 09:07 PM

Mjriter, it's 0x44 jed in your pack. C3H8, l line only needs to be output for 5baud wake process on old vw/audi ecu's. No other data is sent there afaik. That's why Lline input is not used.