VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

**hid3** · 8th January, 2019, 10:04 AM

They're even not familiar with their own PCB layouts of previous HEX+CAN revisions, there's not a chance they remember how they did that crap some time ago...

BTW, take a look at this Dictator's post: https://forums.ross-tech.com/showthr...l=1#post151751

They try to make illusion that the "dangeous methods of the loader" is the root cause of shifted adaptation channels, long coding wrecks, etc but in no way that this is caused by their implemented shit to desperately fight with this

**Roma77** · 9th January, 2019, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by liviudiaconu

I saw in the past more schemathics named "original"..for 44 and 46 too..

Only one of them having pin 4 pulled-up external too. Attached..
See ONLY pin 4 is pulled-up externaly. That make me think is used in logical as 1. pins 1 and 9 not used, so..not connected.

Today came 10 boards that I ordered in China according to this scheme))) we will experiment)
During the week I’ll check and if everything works well, I’ll post here gerber files.
20190109_094233.jpg

**romaiz** · 9th January, 2019, 03:30 PM

hi guys, how you all doing?
ive still got a problem with my interface its a vagcom 178 and has the atmega162 have followed the pdf files and reflashed the interface with usbasp.
when i open VAGCOM_HWType.exe and click read it comes up No interface found. I have +12v to pin 16 and GND pin 4. but when I have usbasp connected to the interface and I run VAGCOM_HWType.exe it finds the interface straight away firmware version 1.96 and HW Type 0x44. when I open vcdsLoader and click test it finds the interface, as soon as I plug in to car and test again no interface found.
all help will be very much appreciated

**Roma77** · 9th January, 2019, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by romaiz

hi guys, how you all doing?
ive still got a problem with my interface its a vagcom 178 and has the atmega162 have followed the pdf files and reflashed the interface with usbasp.
when i open VAGCOM_HWType.exe and click read it comes up No interface found. I have +12v to pin 16 and GND pin 4. but when I have usbasp connected to the interface and I run VAGCOM_HWType.exe it finds the interface straight away firmware version 1.96 and HW Type 0x44. when I open vcdsLoader and click test it finds the interface, as soon as I plug in to car and test again no interface found.
all help will be very much appreciated

After usbasp firmware, firmware cannot be 1.96, it should be 1.95 and then you update the firmware with the version of the program you want to use.

**kaalis** · 9th January, 2019, 03:49 PM

it can be 1.96 if he is using avrdude and USBASP_write_0x44.cmd file.

**romaiz** · 9th January, 2019, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by Roma77

After usbasp firmware, firmware cannot be 1.96, it should be 1.95 and then you update the firmware with the version of the program you want to use.

hi Roma77 when i first flashed the interface using vcdsloader v6.3 and reinstalled vagcom it asked me to upgrade firmware to 1.96 but even then vagcom kept dropping the interface, and then wouldnt pickup the interface when plugged into the car. now it seems like the interface isn't getting 12v, but when I connect usbasp and then read HW Type it reads.
can you explain to me how to flash it with usbasp? maybe I am doing something wrong?
thanks again

**Roma77** · 9th January, 2019, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by romaiz

hi Roma77 when i first flashed the interface using vcdsloader v6.3 and reinstalled vagcom it asked me to upgrade firmware to 1.96 but even then vagcom kept dropping the interface, and then wouldnt pickup the interface when plugged into the car. now it seems like the interface isn't getting 12v, but when I connect usbasp and then read HW Type it reads.
can you explain to me how to flash it with usbasp? maybe I am doing something wrong?
thanks again

I think you did everything right the first time, but if you think that there is no +12 volts then the LED will not shine, if not + check the protective diode and the 7805 transistor, and better show a good photo of your board from both sides, GND on 4 and 5 pins.
P.S. I read the preceding advice that the guys have already given you, they all told you to follow the instructions and do not deviate,

**romaiz** · 9th January, 2019, 06:00 PM

Originally Posted by Roma77

I think you did everything right the first time, but if you think that there is no +12 volts then the LED will not shine, if not + check the protective diode and the 7805 transistor, and better show a good photo of your board from both sides, GND on 4 and 5 pins.

would a 12v car battery charger be ok to use or no?

**kaalis** · 9th January, 2019, 06:28 PM

Use PC power supply if you want to do it indoors.

**romaiz** · 9th January, 2019, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by kaalis

Use PC power supply if you want to do it indoors.

yes ive just used a led driver and powered it up and it workes ive just flashed the interface with usbasp using vcdsloader v2 0x44 so hopefully it will work just going to plug it in the car and ill let you guys know the resuts
thanks again

**xnevri00** · 9th January, 2019, 07:32 PM

Hi guys,

when I was changing idle speed (01-engine->security access - 16->pin 12233->adaptation -10-> channel 06), I found there unknown channels (06,17,18,19,20,21,22) with exchangeable values (see file).
Do someone know the description (label) and value range for these channels ?
P.S. I have Octavia 2 2006 BKD DSG
Thanks in advance

**kaalis** · 10th January, 2019, 12:26 AM

06 could be this:

Code:

A006,0,Idle Speed Adjustment
A006,1,Engine Speed,(actual)
A006,2,Engine Speed,(specified)
A006,3,Operation Status
A006,4,Accel. Pedal Pos.,Sensor 1 (G79)

Didn't find other channels in 18.9.0.4 label file

**xnevri00** · 10th January, 2019, 07:28 PM

Hi, yes channel 06 is setting of idle speed, thanks... But I don't know the other channels 17,18,19,20,21,22. A long time I search them :/

**BASi77** · 10th January, 2019, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by xnevri00

17,18,19,20,21,22. A long time I search them :/

The following lbl files may be useful :

**safm** · 11th January, 2019, 12:08 AM

Hello everyone.

This is a real clone of Hex V2 or is a normal Hex Can with a different case?

https://www.obd2cartool.com/atmega-v...t97asr4gcdkro6

Thanks