VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

[firebroker]

Hi Guys,
i´ve read almost everything, but I am not able to repair my old china cable.. can you help me please (win7 64bit)
with no 12V I have short to ground, with 12V I have only CAN NOT READY. I have measured for shorts but all four 1AM transistors are good
IMG_3031.JPGIMG_3032.JPGhw type.jpgno12V.jpgwith12V.jpg
I know that I can buy a new cable, it is quite cheap, but I am really big fanatic in repairing stuffs
thank you a lot

[alexm1]

I do not think will work on CAN, it migth work only with K line. This is a low quality cable. I had one just like this one, there is "false" error with short to ground...if when you power up that message does not pop up, it is ok . But do not waste your time with it , just buy a new one.

[liviudiaconu]

Your car for sure having CAN? If not can, the message is correct.
If CAN ..reflash the cable (IF before said CAN OK, with previous soft)

Your cable architecture is a very bad one. "The petard of the petards" i can say.
The cable test is only with 12V powered.

[hid3]

Hi Guys,
i´ve read almost everything, but I am not able to repair my old china cable.. can you help me please (win7 64bit)
with no 12V I have short to ground, with 12V I have only CAN NOT READY. I have measured for shorts but all four 1AM transistors are good
IMG_3031.JPGIMG_3032.JPGhw type.jpgno12V.jpgwith12V.jpg
I know that I can buy a new cable, it is quite cheap, but I am really big fanatic in repairing stuffs
thank you a lot

Your interface lacks GAL/ATF chip, as well the K-line is transistor driven.
It's not worth the effort resurrecting this cable as it won't function correctly anyway. Just hurry up to buy a new one (promotion link for special price is available a few pages back) before "Mr. I know everything" shows up and chimes in about transistors quality

[firebroker]

thank you all for your opinion. New cable: VIP LINK for DK Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader just ordered. hope its good choice...
hid3 please PM me, I want to donate my cable if you are interested.

[networkers]

Hi, can anyone share(link for download) vers. 18.9 German that can work with 7.2 loader?
Thanks

http://www.share-online.biz/dl/DLYLT1HP7G9

[mikroel]

Beta 19.1 works only with RT current HEX-NET and HEX-V2 interfaces.


Don't waste your money for this shit FAKE HEX-CAN interface which called by some experts here "HEX-V2".


UDS protocol, which was used in newer cars from 2013, doesn't work at all, even if you have transivers instead of "simple transistors!!!

But that should be well known to the "experts" here, or maybe not...





Sent from my HONOR 8X

[liviudiaconu]

thank you all for your opinion. New cable: VIP LINK for DK Classic DIY ATMEGA162 + FT232RL + L9637D + 16V8B cable with Bootloader just ordered. hope its good choice...
hid3 please PM me, I want to donate my cable if you are interested.

In that link are two kinds of cables:
One "classic", in fact a Hex K+Can clone and a clone named by chineses "Hex V2". Is a "hex K + CAN" clone (none of chinese not released a real "V2" clone yet).
Named "V2" because of the same case design, nothing else.

Sincerily i recommend you that named "V2" because:

The "Classic" version i suspect to be that version PCB woth "AES" chip. Is relative OK but: because of low quality of few components, "7805" is hot.
In that "V2" the voltage regulator is cold and the cable is more stable.

Because of that hot "7805" i saw few "classic" cables not functional. After replace few components, the cable worked again but..for how much time?

I didn't know for sure if that "classic" cable is with AES, i wrote that (i "suspect").
If hid3 can tell us if is "AES" version or not..

[hid3]

I'd also vote for the V2 version. Modern design, detachable cable, comfortable LED layout, draws less power power (~40 mA versus ~100 mA which Classic one drains), PCB layout is (almost) identical to factory one (except CAN controller, USB port and LEDs of course). And yes, Classic's voltage regulator gets hot when using for extended periods of time but... It all depends on your needs and willingness to spend extra bucks or better save them for beer. In either case, Classic in most cases work fair good enough in most cases.

Regarding AES chip: in out setup (Loader + VCDS) the AES chip is not being used. With both jumpers removed, the AES chip is not even powered on.

Regarding Classic's hunger for power and hot voltage regulator: I still haven't nailed down the excessive power usage to a single component. I started drawing the schema of the Classic interface but I needed to return that interface back to the owner so I couldn't complete it. At the moment I don't have Classic one laying around so can't continue.
I suspect this may be related to Lattice/Palce GAL chip, however, without having done exact measurements I can't tell this is 100% true.

[honestbee]

Dear Kolimer, HID3 and all other coders,

As everyone is aware, the HEX-V2 interface that we use is just an improved HEX+CAN. R0$$ Tech released the original HEX-V2 to support newer cars and modules. Furthermore did they program a year checking mechanism in the VCDS software, which will tell you that you are using an old interface if you are trying to read a control module on a MY2019 car, although the interface can still read the module. In my opinion this is a sad move, as the old interface can still read out and code the module.

Today I installed VCDS 18.9.1 with VCDS Loader 7.2, hoping that maybe they enabled coding and adaptions for my car (MY2019 Superb), as my interface could still read the modules. But yet again the popup came, saying that my interface was too old. But suddenly I found a bypass around this year checking mechanism, which allowed me to do adaptations and coding on the desired module.

Apparently each time that you select a control module, he will read out the year of the car, so how did I bypass this?

1) Turn on the ignition (no running engine)
2) Read out all the control modules
3) Before selecting the desired control module, turn off the ignition and then select the desired module (don`t wait too long to select the module, as the electricity running through the modules is only for a short period now)
4) Normally he will read the desired module, and the adaptations and coding button will not be greyed out
5) Now you can turn the ignition back on and do your coding/adaptations (AT YOUR OWN RISK!)
6) If you want to go to another control module, please repeat step 3 till 5

I hope this procedure will work for you guys as it worked for me.

@Kolimer and @HID3
Maybe you could create a patch which disables this year checking mechanism?

Regards,
Dean

I drive a late 2018 model and bought a "hex-v2" cable from one of the China sellers. Strangely I encountered the "Please upgrade your interface" error; thought it affects only 2019 models.

I tried your method, managed to get to Step 5 but when i clicked long coding helper, it says unable to connect to controller. Guess it doesn't work for me.

I went on to ask another China seller and he was adamant that his cable will work on my late 2018 model for sure. Pretty skeptical as I suppose no clones have managed to work on the latest models?

[honestbee]

hid3, I'm unable to pm you as your inbox is full. Let me know when you see this?

[alexm1]

I drive a late 2018 model and bought a "hex-v2" cable from one of the China sellers. Strangely I encountered the "Please upgrade your interface" error; thought it affects only 2019 models.

I tried your method, managed to get to Step 5 but when i clicked long coding helper, it says unable to connect to controller. Guess it doesn't work for me.

I went on to ask another China seller and he was adamant that his cable will work on my late 2018 model for sure. Pretty skeptical as I suppose no clones have managed to work on the latest models?

It s better if you show us the "entire picture": what software vers. you use, pics with hardware, if you allready tried on older car models....

[hid3]

Hello dear DK members and VAG lovers,

just wanted to let everyone know that OBD2CarTool shop really cares about us and now they have become even better!
Besides the fact that they offer VIP price for interfaces for us, they also started offering a possibility to order USBASP programmer - so now you can get all the required stuff in once package with quick delivery! Personally I think it's the best deal you can ever get.

Here's the link: https://www.obd2cartool.com/vip-link...86o4so84i9m7r7
Pay attention there are two Packages - Classic and "HEX-V2" interfaces as well there are two options - with USBASP programmer or without it.

Enjoy!

[bogdanbgd]

Hello!
I have an interface which i bought from China. I think, i used about only for two times. After a while i tried to use again, but was a problem with license, invalid. After i made an upgrade of firmware with my language Romanian , the license is now valid, but Can is not ready... What can I do? Thank you so much, BogdanWhatsApp Image 2019-05-15 at 21.33.56 (1).jpgcan not ready.JPGWhatsApp Image 2019-05-15 at 21.33.56 (2).jpg

[Sinapsi]

Sinapsi

I have three cables so damaged. VID and PID alone 0000 tried everything, could not do it.

Sorry for my absence, but I just wanted to update you.


Taking into consideration your advice (thank you very much), I ordered on Amazon 1 serial converter - usb with original FTDI.
I replaced the fake FTDI from the interface, reprogrammed and everything started working fine.


The problem with these interfaces is not the components themselves, but the use of cloned converters. The same FTDI in 2014 issued updates to their drivers via windows update. If it recognizes a fake chip, it takes it to VID and PID to 0000.
Replacing the fake chip with an original one, reprogramming it properly, everything returns to work properly, even keeping the PC online.