VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

**1accent** · 20th July, 2019, 08:44 PM

Now i can run newest version of VCDS and i can connect my car with interface but still "Can not redy". My car is a Skoda Fabia 1.9 SDI (6YJ) 2005 and in the internet are different information. First version is that this model support CAN and in the second hand that this car is communitate by ISO 9141 standard. In addition while VCDS auto-scan is running i can see that CAN-gateway is testing and don't have any faults. And now i don't know that this issue can be caused by cable or the simple way my car doesn't communicate by CAN?
Thanks in advance

This is foto of m OBD II and we can see that i have pins in place where is can:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-t...MLqgtSe-f-iLon

**Andrew LBC** · 20th July, 2019, 10:16 PM

Well based on what ive read in the last 50 or so pages, these older chinese clones like mine should stick with VCDS below v19. And since nobody said otherwise, ill give it a shot to use the 8.0 bootloader and 18.9.0 along with the updates required to the 0x44 hardware. It its a total fail, ill order a better cable. I'm even considering dropping the cash and buying a true Hex-v2 from ross-tech since the one thing ive learned from reading this thread, these clone cables vary a ton in terms of quality. Plus, i keep questioning how smart it is to spend $45k on a car and then go super cheap on an accessory that is so vital to the cars functionality. It's kinda like building a $2500 gaming PC and using a super bargain basement power supply.

First things first though. Gotta head over to pepboys and return a 10 month old Bosch Platnium AGM 94R battery that out of the blue lost 90% of its charge capacity for no apparent reason.

**hid3** · 20th July, 2019, 10:58 PM

Originally Posted by Andrew LBC

Plus, i keep questioning how smart it is to spend $45k on a car and then go super cheap on an accessory that is so vital to the cars functionality. It's kinda like building a $2500 gaming PC and using a super bargain basement power supply.

This argument is the main marketing driving force used by RossTech to promote sales.
$45k car should still be under factory warranty. In most cases if you have an issue with the car, go to the official dealer/warranty department. If you want to do "some cool mods", bear in mind that connecting any 3rd party tools to the car within factory warranty may actually void the warranty.

If you need just a code scanner, a tool to quickly monitor live data in your phone, go and get yourself OBDELEVEN. It will cost as low as ~70 Euros (genuine, last price I checked) and will have 80% of VCDS features. Plus it's small, comfortable and works in your phone. VCDS doesn't do that.

If you need a tool to carry out professional repair, consider investing money in one which at least supports module flashing and direct access to EEPROM. VCDS doesn't have that and will never have that.

Finally, Mr. Ro$$ needs to realise that clone market is like a demo version of his tool. It if would not exist, the sales would look much more diappointing than they're now. Also, there is group of people who will NEVER be buying his genuine tool due to different reasons (e.g. for those who need a fault code scanner, there are way cheaper alternatives, people who need a tool only to work on their current car will also find alternatives, people who don't actually need a several hundreds cost tool in order to use it maybe once or twice, etc)

**Andrew LBC** · 21st July, 2019, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by hid3

This argument is the main marketing driving force used by RossTech to promote sales.

Doesn't make it any less true.

$45k car should still be under factory warranty. In most cases if you have an issue with the car, go to the official dealer/warranty department. If you want to do "some cool mods", bear in mind that connecting any 3rd party tools to the car within factory warranty may actually void the warranty.

No, it wouldn't void your warranty. Read up on the magnuson moss warranty act. Warranties cannot be denied unless they can explicitly prove what you did to the car caused the damage you want covered under the warranty. Its not a matter of you proving what you did 'didn't' cause the damage. Ive never once been denied a warranty claim on something due to diagnostic cables, ECU chip tuning upgrades, aftermarket exhaust, suspension, intercoolers, sound systems, or any other mod i've installed on various vehicles over the years. BUT... i'm also not the kind of person who will break something and try and get the dealer to cover it under warranty.

If you need just a code scanner, a tool to quickly monitor live data in your phone, go and get yourself OBDELEVEN. It will cost as low as ~70 Euros (genuine, last price I checked) and will have 80% of VCDS features. Plus it's small, comfortable and works in your phone. VCDS doesn't do that.

I need a lot more than a code scanner for my Audi since i do all the work on it myself. VCDS provides the features that I need, for example tomorrow i'm installing a new battery. Without VCDS, the battery management will not properly charge the new battery since it's higher capacity and an AGM (currently normal lead acid). Without recoding, the computer will charge with the wrong voltage and likely under-charge due to not knowing the new batter has considerably higher capacity. If i had replaced with an identical battery, all i would have needed to do is change one digit in the battery serial number in VCDS and it would know a new battery is installed. Either way, still need VCDS.

If you need a tool to carry out professional repair, consider investing money in one which at least supports module flashing and direct access to EEPROM. VCDS doesn't have that and will never have that.

I have access to such a tool, no need to go spend over a grand on one. VCDS is all i really need for 99.9% of work i'd do on the car. I know plenty of tuners, plus i used to run the North American operations for a VW/Audi tuning company a little over a decade ago. So such stuff is not hard to come by.

Finally, Mr. Ro$$ needs to realise that clone market is like a demo version of his tool. It if would not exist, the sales would look much more diappointing than they're now. Also, there is group of people who will NEVER be buying his genuine tool due to different reasons (e.g. for those who need a fault code scanner, there are way cheaper alternatives, people who need a tool only to work on their current car will also find alternatives, people who don't actually need a several hundreds cost tool in order to use it maybe once or twice, etc)

I'm not sure why you're preaching to the choir. I have absolutely no problem with people buying and using clones considering I own two of them myself and have used them for years on the four Audi's ive owned since 2001. But at the same time, it's kind of childish to belittle the guy who has invested a lot of money and taken a lot of risk to build a company and product that is pretty much the one-stop-shop for anyone who isn't a car dealer to do work themselves on their volkswagon auto group vehicles. The vast majority of people who buy genuine cables are mechanics who require the tool to make money. This is why it costs what it does. Keep in mind if you're running a business and get audited, the IRS will check to see if the software you use in your day to day operations have a legal license. Same goes for graphic designers and software like photoshop, illustrator, etc. Plus he's not running a charity. He wants to make money too. Not sure why that upsets you.

Ross Tech knows very well that the clone market is whats gets him a lot of his customers. You think he would offer a lite version of VCDS if he thought otherwise? It's also a very good reason why he isn't sueing the crap out of a lot of people involved in the clone industry.

**Andrew LBC** · 21st July, 2019, 06:49 AM

oh... and does bootloader 8 work with 18.9.0? Im asking becuase i see a lot of people saying they're using bootloader 7 with sub v19 VCDS.

**Andrew LBC** · 21st July, 2019, 08:24 AM

Just updated the cable firmware from v1.84 to v1.96 successfully then loaded up VCDS 18.9.0 and it passed the test and connected on both K lines and CAN bus. Everything with the now massively updated cable/software (11.11.0 ---> 18.9.0) seems to be working just fine. VCDS sure has come a long way since the ancient version that i had been using. Should be good to go for the battery swap tomorrow. Might even do the rear brakes now that i can disengage the parking brake using my laptop now. Not bad for a cable i believe i spent $25 on back in 2010 iirc.

**alexm1** · 21st July, 2019, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by 1accent

Now i can run newest version of VCDS and i can connect my car with interface but still "Can not redy". My car is a Skoda Fabia 1.9 SDI (6YJ) 2005 and in the internet are different information. First version is that this model support CAN and in the second hand that this car is communitate by ISO 9141 standard. In addition while VCDS auto-scan is running i can see that CAN-gateway is testing and don't have any faults. And now i don't know that this issue can be caused by cable or the simple way my car doesn't communicate by CAN?
Thanks in advance

This is foto of m OBD II and we can see that i have pins in place where is can:
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-t...MLqgtSe-f-iLon

You have there Can-gateway but it does not have to be used for diagnose.
Best choice for you is to find a friend/Neighbour/co-worker who have a newer VAG car, like Golf Mk5, Octavia2... and give him a free scan and than you will solve the mistery(bad cable or non-can car).
Try and report back.

**kaalis** · 21st July, 2019, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by Andrew LBC

You think he would offer a lite version of VCDS if he thought otherwise? It's also a very good reason why he isn't sueing the crap out of a lot of people involved in the clone industry.

They have forgot about lite version many years ago. Didn't even bother updating label files...

**hid3** · 21st July, 2019, 10:13 AM

$100 for demo ("lite") version which abilities are less than generic code scanner, plus it's tied to be used on a single computer (seriously, whatda phuck??). I can hardly imagine anyone outside US could be paying that price; especially considering that a normal alternative is available for 2/3rds of that price.

Oh, and worth to mention that Label files do suck not only on Lite, but full version too. "Email our support" makes no sense - their response times are big, besides they are in waaay different time zone (except a couple of Euro nerds who are reading this) and they fail to realise that if a car comes to a workshop to have some work done, it needs to be done NOW and not after 3 days and 15 emails exchange.

Finally, in order to work on MQB cars, one will need a bit different tool than VCDS, even despite the total abscense of RODs for MQB. Most modules nowadays will need parametrisation, etc

**bg17aw** · 21st July, 2019, 04:18 PM

I bought a second cable from obd2cartool, I flashed it succesfully but it is not working very well.

Seems like a bad hardware connection, I suspect the CAN pin is not making perfect contact (as reported, these new V2 interfaces come with thinner pins

I jiggled the interface around in the car connector and I did manage to get contact, once, but I cannot replicate that.

The cable passes hardware info, gets the green led up, but communication seems very problematic.

I tried both loader7.2 and 8.0, and 18.9.1 and 19.6.1 (seems to get way more errors with 19.6.1, by the way)

Anyone else encountered this?

Edit: not sure how to attach better quality pictures, they are automatically scaled down?

**nikolakla** · 22nd July, 2019, 08:48 PM

Hello

Can anybody help with VCDS 1.2 Lite activated??? I have audi a4 17 years old and Blue KKL.....I need to code xenon lights and to eliminate a couple of errors.......
Thanks in advanced

**Mario6** · 22nd July, 2019, 09:01 PM

nikolakla

Read post # 11

https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forum...=vcds+lite+1.2

**nikolakla** · 23rd July, 2019, 04:24 PM

Thanks Mario6.....
I read the entire post 11to the end,Found your post with 1.2 Lite but I can not download it! I dont have sufficient Privileges to access the Page....
Can you help Please......