VAG-COM/VCDS EVERYTHING

[badrax]

I've payed with shipping to Australia $135 (~105 USD). Was relying on the description and didn't know anything about the difference 405/415 until yesterday... Just saw the chip is blurred on the homepage, too.

If you ordered the cable from this image:

then they have sent you the wrong cable!
You can see on this image that the PCB is of the type supporting updates. You can also see that the CAN bus chip is smaller on the image compared to the one you got.
Perhaps you can try get your money back using some buyers protection. I know paypal protects the buyer pretty good.

[StanNB]

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Which version did u bought, english or multi? Looking for that 415 with original PCB, it's much better then 405.

[crouchinggerbil]

Which version did u buyd, english or multi? Looking for that 415 with original PCB, it's much better then 405.

Gotta love the cheaped out solder joint between the 2 boards.

[StanNB]

Gotta love the cheaped out solder joint between the 2 boards.

Noone cares!

[flyfvdi]

If you ordered the cable from this image:

then they have sent you the wrong cable!
You can see on this image that the PCB is of the type supporting updates. You can also see that the CAN bus chip is smaller on the image compared to the one you got.
Perhaps you can try get your money back using some buyers protection. I know paypal protects the buyer pretty good.

Aliexpress protects the buyer pretty good, too

you can return back the wrong cable and refund yuor money.

[flyfvdi]

Which version did u bought, english or multi? Looking for that 415 with original PCB, it's much better then 405.

415 with original PCB is a crap, can not update freely. can not suppot multi-languages.not full version, with many bugs.

[and1]

Wow, that's steep. I paid £28 (just under $40 US) for mine in december and with the new taxes since january it would be another £5.60 on top now

That's for the exact same 415 device yoi have there

They reduced the price, I've payed pretty much the full retail price.

If you ordered the cable from this image:

then they have sent you the wrong cable!
You can see on this image that the PCB is of the type supporting updates. You can also see that the CAN bus chip is smaller on the image compared to the one you got.
Perhaps you can try get your money back using some buyers protection. I know paypal protects the buyer pretty good.

I can't open a case anymore.

Which version did u bought, english or multi? Looking for that 415 with original PCB, it's much better then 405.

Back then when I've ordered, it was english only and that's the one I got.

[StanNB]

415 with original PCB is a crap, can not update freely. can not suppot multi-languages.not full version, with many bugs.

Original PCB is crap? The original V2 is crap, too? Is the same PCB!
My 415 works in 2 languages, don't need more! And it's full version!
You mean more bugs like your 405 and the PlusLoader on Golf 8? Don't think so. Any proofs or just empty words?
How can a 405 chip with less quality be better like the more qualified 415 chip?

You forgot the link to your shop. You are only here for business and make money, don't you?

[bg17aw]

405 are way under $ 45 including shipping already .

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1005...%2316062%23761

Look at the third picture, it clearly says 415

[StanNB]

Look at the third picture, it clearly says 415

Did you read the description? You can buy there 2 items!

405 and 415!

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[bg17aw]

True, my mistake. 415 is cheaper, but they also sell the 405

[Ganja47]

To be fair the only thing the 415 has over the 405 is the integrated crypto chip, the 405 version of the hex v2 uses an external crypto chip on their PCB

When I purchased mine in december I did some research and wanted a 'real' v2 so knew it had to be ARM rather than Atmega but differences between the 405 and 415 weren't known in detail back then and none of the 2 had received any updates back then so I went for the 415 because it was a tenner cheaper

My 415 came with 20.4 supported and wouldn't connect meaningful to either my A4 B6 or my mk1 TT because of Kline problems. The fly marketed 405 had similar problems with Kline cars.

Fast forward to now VCDS has been updated several times and so has the 405 clone and the loader. Kline problems have been sorted after loader version 02/03 and the cable and loader are actively developed and supported. On the other hand the 415 is abandoned by it's developers without any updates or support.

To be clear here I have no connection to fly and don't want to advocate any supplier over the other but in hindsight it would have been better to go for the 405 cable and bying anything else just now makes no sense whatsoever for the sake of saving a pitty amount of money or even pay on top as and1 did

People can say about fly support what they want but in this realm of the car diagnostic world receiving any support or upgrades is close to a miracle. Look at the v1 Atmega cables. Updates, flashes and loaders are provided by individuals or groups that have absolutely nothing to do with the cable suppliers.

Maybe there will be a similar arrangement for 415 upgrades in the future, we all know Badrax is working hard on it and my 415 cable is updated to run 20.12 and has all the Kline problems solved which wouldn't have been possible without a lot of hard and dedicated work by Badrax. But where do you think the updated firmware comes from? The 405 cable and viiplus loader of course so without those guys supporting their cable we probably wouldn't be here yet either

As far as I'm concerned folk should stop having a go at fly and actually appreciate the after sales support and updates we have never seen before in the vcds clone world

If this is not enough for anyone just go and buy the original

Shoutout and Thanks to flyfvdi for supporting your product and Thanks to badrax for all the work put in so far getting the folks who made a wrong buying decision up to date

Piece out

[StanNB]

Maybe there will be a similar arrangement for 415 upgrades in the future, we all know Badrax is working hard on it

Agree with you. And I really love the knowledge and the hard work from Badrax on the 415. Fly did big things, too. No question. But you should differentiates the intentions behind that.

Badrax is a guy like me. Try to research things, cracking, make things runnable and working to present it for other people and for the scene. And all for free.

Fly's first intention of his work is to make business and sell his cables. That's why all other interfaces exept his ones are crap and shit. No, it's not reprehensible to make money.

But why he don't support Badrax and the work on the 415 with his solutions, e.g. with firmware or something?
Because he wants to sell more of his cables. That's what I think.


Maybe I'm totally wrong, but I can't understand this.


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[Ganja47]

I think asking fly and his team to upgrade a cable that wasn't produced by them is a bit much to be honest although it would be a nice and generous present.
Of course the USART hardware mod would still have to be done on the 415 cable for that.

Still very unlikely. As you said yourself he clearly is part of the updateable 405 team in some form or another. For them this is business, not enthusiasm or a hobby. Helping to update a competition device and therefore stopping people buying one of theirs is naturally not on their mind. They would be very bad business people

Matter of fact I know they've been working hard to make the new firmwares more complicated to modify for use on the 415 cable so help from their side is very unlikely

[StanNB]

They take firmware from a RT interface to modify that, ask other users to test for free theire firmware on the cars to make money and don't want to give something back to the community that helped them.

That's why I would never support them and buy his interfaces. That destroys the scene.

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