Thanks again but.........
enter in 10, 11 keys 00000000 etc and nothing opening on digi or anywhere else, im thinking reset, system info now reads TM-5400 CI+USB S/W 1.74P JAN26 2010 H/W 1.10 BOOT 1.12 (08:20) CH FEB:09
Reason im thinking reset is last year with all the patches and key updates somethings jamming up, as after loading patch system shuts down and reboots ok but then does not recognise usb stick to enter keys and jams up.
So have to switch off and power up. then recognizes usb stick and allows keys to be uploaded. This was not the case when its was new and functioning... Losing motor settings is no big deal, only need to scan 30w1w13e19e28e 1hr and done.
Open to suggestions tho