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soxten
10th January, 2017, 12:27 PM
I have a Bmw 3 F30 2013 FEM-module here.
Is it possible to clone this unit?

Mcu is 2 and SPC5668EVMG (0N61C)
Eeprom is 95128 and 95256

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Tbolbi
10th January, 2017, 12:59 PM
hello
as i know is not possible to clone or make keys for a BMW with FEM-module.

thanks

soxten
10th January, 2017, 01:43 PM
Is mcu handling keys to decrypt Eeprom or?


what tool can read SPC5668 mcu?

This tool I think can read SPC5668
http://www.nxp.com/products/software-and-tools/software-development-tools/codewarrior-development-tools/suite-for-networked-applications/codewarrior-tap:CW_TAP#overview

Here is info about mcu.
http://www.nxp.com/products/automotive-products/microcontrollers-and-processors/16-bit-s12-s12x-mcus/ultra-reliable-mpc5668g-mcu-for-automotive-industrial-gateway-applications:MPC5668G?lang_cd=en

bearheroes
11th January, 2017, 02:17 AM
Only way until now is transfer bga chips and eeproms...


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fruti
11th January, 2017, 08:23 AM
Hello Sox, Transfer BGA and EEPROMS and will work. But be carefull how you unsoldier bga's ... they have glue under it ... after u succesfuly remove bgas from both plates .... donor and original you have to carefully clean glue from donor pcb. Watch for pins ... i usualy clean with not to hoot round soldier tip but ... be very careful mate those pins on pcb like to fall off ...
I wish you good luck :)
Regards friend!

t22
21st March, 2017, 11:13 PM
I'm repairing flooded F30, I was in luck, original FEM was just enough alive. Kombi is non-responsive.

I just want to confirm, Transfer BGAs and EEPROMs works!

After transfer, there is just one problem, milage is 0. Obvious its stored somewhere else.

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t22
14th April, 2017, 12:15 AM
Hi all,

I got used identical kombi (donor), I have red dot and ISTA says vehicle ID mismatch (or something). Now I have two options:

1. Write VIN in donor eeprom (160D0WT)
2. Transfer eeprom (actual there is one more nearby 95080WT)

What option do you recommend?

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tigex
21st July, 2017, 04:23 PM
Hi t22,

I suggest to desolder eep 160D0WT from your non responsive original cluster and put it
into your replacement cluster and check what happens. You should get your original mileage then.

Good luck

immokill
21st July, 2017, 05:35 PM
write vin and all ok . if you just replace eep first do backup of it .

soxten
21st July, 2017, 05:53 PM
write vin and all ok . if you just replace eep first do backup of it .

Is VIN like immo code?
To clone this typ, only clone Eeprom?


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t22
21st July, 2017, 05:54 PM
Thanks tigex,

I desoldered and transfered 160D0WT from original damaged cluster to donor. Red dot remained, but Istad came with new fault, "unknown eeprom version". So the eeprom have some chip ID or serial nr. and CPU checks this.

I end up with buying smok (http://smok.com.pl/index.php?id_product=239&controller=product&id_lang=2). I cleared VIN and incremental area in donor eeprom. I put it in the car. Red dot gone, odometer correct. All good and working. I don't know why, but I got +3km in odometer.

My next project is to change head unit Magneti Mareli (HU_ENTRYNRAV) with used one. I can't get navigation to work on donor even with can filter. Navigation in menu is greyed out. AppNr. is DF. FSC codes are missing, because donor car did not had navigation option, but GPS hardware is present. If someone knows the way besides buying new unit...maybe chip transfer again?

BMW wants to sell new items, but that all of them wants.

Now I have smok for sale:)

immokill
21st July, 2017, 06:59 PM
you put all ff in vin ?

t22
21st July, 2017, 08:39 PM
Yes. And zeroes for incremental/odometer.

t22
26th July, 2017, 12:21 PM
My next project is to change head unit Magneti Mareli (HU_ENTRYNRAV) with used one. I can't get navigation to work on donor even with can filter. Navigation in menu is greyed out. AppNr. is DF. FSC codes are missing, because donor car did not had navigation option, but GPS hardware is present. If someone knows the way besides buying new unit...maybe chip transfer again?


I know that this has nothing in common with cloning FEM but I will write anyway may somebody have the same problem. All right, that was easy, as I look back. FSC (certificates) should be with status "Accepted" and issued with same VIN as HU (headunit). HU VIN in my case was different. So I changed HU VIN to VIN written in FSC. Then I "Update" FSC and with this status changed from "Rejected" to "Accepted". After resetting HU Navigation works.

Skylinehead
8th February, 2018, 03:29 AM
I'm repairing flooded F30, I was in luck, original FEM was just enough alive. Kombi is non-responsive.

I just want to confirm, Transfer BGAs and EEPROMs works!

After transfer, there is just one problem, milage is 0. Obvious its stored somewhere else.

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Hi, sorry for bring this post up, but I'm now trying to repair a flood F30 as well, are the two big chips called BGA and the two small ones EEPROM? In order to make a used FEM work, I have to transfer all four of them correct?

t22
8th February, 2018, 10:05 AM
Yes, you have to transfer all four chips.

BGA describes the way the chip is soldered to PCB. I think 2 bigger chips are processors, smaller ones are eeproms.

drugowaz
8th February, 2018, 11:53 AM
I can clone your fem.

soxten
8th February, 2018, 05:18 PM
I can clone your fem.

Please can you tell how to clone FEM?



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rola1971
9th February, 2018, 09:00 AM
Please can you tell how to clone FEM?



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IN VVDI2 this moment it is posibility clone fem

i try work 100%

Tbolbi
9th February, 2018, 11:03 AM
Hi
Now its possible to make key and clone FEM i try with vvdi2 and lonsdor both of them work 100%

soxten
10th February, 2018, 09:46 AM
Can you tell the way/steps to clone fem?
Do you read ISN and vin from broken FEM and then write to used.
After that write new key to fem?


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Skylinehead
23rd February, 2018, 07:00 AM
You mean now it is possible to clone it without transfer the chips?

rola1971
24th February, 2018, 08:51 AM
You mean now it is possible to clone it without transfer the chips?

yes
if you know orginal isn

soxten
25th February, 2018, 12:12 PM
yes
if you know orginal isn

Please can you tell more info?


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bearheroes
25th February, 2018, 12:14 PM
yes
if you know orginal isn

You probably mean isk and not isn...there are more data necessary to clone fem...vin, isk, isn, remote data, dates...


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crisvermex
7th May, 2018, 11:10 PM
Hi Firends
Maybe this tool can read 2 SPC5... microprocess from FEM.
http://www.autokey.com.ua/MAC_MPC%20PROGRAMMER/HTML/mac_mpc.html

alfons37
8th May, 2018, 09:01 PM
http://blog.obdexpress.co.uk/2018/02/27/lonsdor-k518ise-works-with-bmw-fem-bdc-cas/

ypt
15th June, 2018, 01:07 AM
I want to replace fem with other used fem... The original is still working in the car... But have some problems...

So can i read all data and keys with vvdi from original fem?

rola1971
16th June, 2018, 08:07 AM
I want to replace fem with other used fem... The original is still working in the car... But have some problems...

So can i read all data and keys with vvdi from original fem?

need donar fem whit key

ypt
16th June, 2018, 11:06 AM
I want to keep original car keys...

I dont have donnor fem KEY... Just the FEM.

Is possible?

shmatta
6th October, 2018, 09:27 AM
Yes. And zeroes for incremental/odometer.


Hello t22 i have just managed to revive a flooded F30 LCI , yet the instrument cluster was damaged and i need to swap a used one , so could you please help by instructions , i have an AUTO HEX II ?

leandroks
17th April, 2019, 03:17 AM
Guys could any one help me on one thnig.
I ve got an fem f30 2014, i ve programmed key all keys lost.
All ok car started for one time
after that car didnt start anymore.
I try to comunicate with fem and it communicate with scanner for some times and stopped.
Now it doesnt even communicate and car wont start.
My question is,,,,
Is it possible to program used fem to the car to solve the problem, once olf fem dont communicate .anymore???

Cheers

qwojtus
17th April, 2019, 07:28 AM
Vergin ELV and it will start many times.

leandroks
22nd April, 2019, 02:54 PM
Car hasnt got elv. it is automatic

trinicolin
27th July, 2020, 01:30 AM
IN VVDI2 this moment it is posibility clone fem

i try work 100%Would you be able to change remote frequency as well when exchanging FEM?

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trinicolin
20th August, 2020, 04:26 AM
IN VVDI2 this moment it is posibility clone fem

i try work 100%I would be grateful to know the correct procedure for cloning because I am having problems with one.

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ypt
20th August, 2020, 05:49 AM
I would be grateful to know the correct procedure for cloning because I am having problems with one.

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Which problems are you having?

trinicolin
20th August, 2020, 06:10 AM
Which problems are you having?I got the donor fem with key. How do I unlock the fem to write original isn and vin of the car?

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brend
20th August, 2020, 12:08 PM
For this you have actual key.


I got the donor fem with key. How do I unlock the fem to write original isn and vin of the car?

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trinicolin
20th August, 2020, 12:45 PM
For this you have actual key.The original issue was a AKL and original fem got damaged.

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