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bobby87
23rd July, 2012, 07:52 PM
hi I want to start to learn how to map diesel cars and was just wondering what is the best program to learn on how to alter the maps and whats the best for reading and writing the ecus
thank bobby

Liteace
24th July, 2012, 11:28 AM
If you have a spare 20 grand to buy a dyno & another 5 grand to buy an diesel exhaust gas analyser then go for it, if not I would leave well alone. The manufactures spend a lot of time and money getting these engines mapped for all round drivability, from cold starts, maybe -10 deg's, depending on where you live to hot starts, engine at 90 deg's or more, then there's acceleration enrichment, timing advance, boost pressure + a whole lot more, you can kill a turbo charged engine very quickly if the settings are not correct. The last thing you need is to re-map say a Golf 2.0 Tdi & then it comes back to you in 2 days, 10 days, 3 weeks with melted pistons

Meat-Head
24th July, 2012, 06:03 PM
Golf 2.0 Tdi & then it comes back to you in 2 days, 10 days, 3 weeks with melted pistons

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Yes agree with Liteace 100% did you download a KWP2000 file at the same time :roflmao:

bobby87
25th July, 2012, 03:15 PM
i know what ye are saying but dont you have to start someware i was just looking for advise on decent software for editing and a decent reader writer its not like im just going to just going to start editing maps and flashing them to new cars

Meat-Head
25th July, 2012, 07:26 PM
i know what ye are saying but dont you have to start someware


Well, perhaps more acativity here on the worlds bestwebsite, a few more thanks for a start.

Learn by others mistakes, and giggle whilst reading them :roflmao:

sherl645
25th July, 2012, 10:33 PM
Ok, tell me the basics of what makes the modern diesel engine tick? And what is the Ecu 'thinking'?
You can't know how to mod it if you don't know how it should work.

Ronan

Liteace
26th July, 2012, 12:49 AM
Ok, tell me the basics of what makes the modern diesel engine tick? And what is the Ecu 'thinking'?

Ronan

The tick will be ~~~~ed tappets.

The ECU will be thinking:

On Wednesday morning when the owner is going to try and start the car Im not going to let it start, Im going to wait until the battery is nearly flat then Ill let the engine start, Im going to let the owner use the car till Tuesday with no problems at all, on Tuesday morning Im not going to let the engine start again at all, Im going to wait for the owner to call the mechanic and when the mechanic comes and tries to start the engine Im going to let the engine fire up straight away and keep doing so until the mechanic ~~~~s off, then when the owner gets in the car, again Im not going to let the engine start, Im going to wait again for the mechanic but this time not let the engine start for the mechanic, then when he plugs what ever his going to plug into it, Im not going to communicate with it, then when he get it back to he's workshop Im going to let the engine start, Im just going to keep on doing this just to piss everyone off

teuton
26th July, 2012, 04:27 AM
Just in case that you really wanna a learn about modern diesel stuff...

BR

Meat-Head
26th July, 2012, 01:44 PM
The ECU will be thinking:

On Wednesday morning when the owner is going to try and start the car Im not going to let it start, Im going to wait until the battery is nearly flat then Ill let the engine start, Im going to let the owner use the car till


To add to that it will also be thinking of

1) Frogs legs and snails :p

OR

2) We won the war :bounce:

sherl645
26th July, 2012, 04:16 PM
Nutters.... but sure at least ye're well and happy. I wonder how Bobby is getting on after all this help?