lan connector help

[skywatch]

hi to all and :sheep:can i use a RJ45 LAN 2 Ways Plug Connector Joiner Splitter CAT 5 on me modem as i only got one port and need two connections one for me computrer and one for me f3 box ...wil this work ok thanks :sheep:my friend bar bar lol

[cactikid]

i dont think they work together,add a router or hub to add other lan connections.

[mezzyg]

You need a network switch

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[skywatch]

You need a network switch

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hi mate thanks for that would that work ok ps wots a network switch lol can you send us link :sheep:

[tayta]

Just jump on fleabay and type "ethernet switch" or "ethernet hub" and look for a small box. often the 8 port ones are cheapest randomly, but see what you can find, they're all much of a muchness for your needs, you don't need anything expensive.

[asim18]

hi to all and :sheep:can i use a RJ45 LAN 2 Ways Plug Connector Joiner Splitter CAT 5 on me modem as i only got one port and need two connections one for me computrer and one for me f3 box ...wil this work ok thanks :sheep:my friend bar bar lol

I'm assuming you have a VM connection?

If yes then a regular switch/hub will not work as you expect. And no offence, but since you are asking whether you can use a splitter for for a LAN Ethernet connection, you will never be able to configure a switch/hub yourself, It will be far too complicated and even if you do get it set-up it won't do what you want it to do.

What you need is something called a cable router. This allows you to easily share an internet connection with (usually) 4 other wired devices.

Cable routers cost between ?25-?50 for a decent basic model, and up to around ?150 for top of the line models.

[nibblitz]

I'm assuming you have a VM connection?
If yes then a regular switch/hub will not work as you expect. And no offence, but since you are asking whether you can use a splitter for for a LAN Ethernet connection, you will never be able to configure a switch/hub yourself, It will be far too complicated and even if you do get it set-up it won't do what you want it to do.
What you need is something called a cable router. This allows you to easily share an internet connection with (usually) 4 other wired devices.
Cable routers cost between ?25-?50 for a decent basic model, and up to around ?150 for top of the line models.

What utter nonsense, ignore all what asim said...

Like tayta said, just get a cheap Hub/Switch...

Like this...
TP-Link TL-SF1005D 5-Port 10/100Mbps Unmanaged Desktop Switch: Mcab: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories

[asim18]

What utter nonsense, ignore all what asim said...

Like tayta said, just get a cheap Hub/Switch...

Like this...
TP-Link TL-SF1005D 5-Port 10/100Mbps Unmanaged Desktop Switch: Mcab: Amazon.co.uk: Computers & Accessories (http://www.amazon.co.uk/TP-Link-TL-SF1005D-100Mbps-Unmanaged-Desktop/dp/B000FNFSPY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361117181&sr=8-1)


LOL.

He said he's only got a single port modem, so how on earth is a switch going to route WAN packets directly from a modem?

If he already had a router then a switch could be used. But he doesn't have a router already.

Furthermore, a switch will not have uPNP, an SPI firewall, and a whole host of other security and practicality features a router has.


One thing is for certain though skywatch..... When you buy your switch and plug it all in and nothing happens, I will be just as sad as you.

[nibblitz]

Again Skywatch, just ignore Asim, he's obviously somebody who knows very little about nothing much....

Asim, if what he has is just a modem then how is he connecting his PC to it via ethernet cable? (he was thinking he could split the RJ45 port) Think about it.... before making yourself sound silly again.... (although he has not been clear, he obviously has a router, doesnt he)

[andy91]

Are these a good alternative if your short of ethernet ports?

Andy.

[nibblitz]

Are these a good alternative if your short of ethernet ports?
Andy.

Absolutely, if you connect one port from your router into a 5 port switch, you then have 4 more ports to use... Couldnt be simpler... 10/100 switches/hubs are the cheapest, and suitable for almost everybody for everyday use and connecting devices to the internet... For those who regularly transfer massive gigabytes of files within their network then a 10/100/1000 Gigabit switch will be faster, but Gigabit switches usually work out at twice the price of a 10/100 switch..

[andy91]

Absolutely, if you connect one port from your router into a 5 port switch, you then have 4 more ports to use... Couldnt be simpler... 10/100 switches/hubs are the cheapest, and suitable for almost everybody for everyday use and connecting devices to the internet... For those who regularly transfer massive gigabytes of files within their network then a 10/100/1000 Gigabit switch will be faster, but Gigabit switches usually work out at twice the price of a 10/100 switch..

Not for me its for a mate who is about to join the sat world but lives in a house with 100 meg bb yet they are all big gamers and have a lack of ethernet sockets.
Will certainly save him from buying extra homeplugs.
Thanks for the good advice. Rep added :)

Andy.

[cunny]

Not for me its for a mate who is about to join the sat world but lives in a house with 100 meg bb yet they are all big gamers and have a lack of ethernet sockets.
Will certainly save him from buying extra homeplugs.
Thanks for the good advice. Rep added :)

Andy.

I have recently networked the house. My router (superhub in modem mode) is downstairs along with my gigabit router.

I fed the upstairs from these and put gigabit switches (http://www.cclonline.com/product/39842/TL-SG1005D/Switches-Hubs/TP-Link-5-port-Unmanaged-Gigabit-Desktop-Switch/NET1184/) in each room.

I have ran cat6e cable throughout the house and get great speeds for streaming and file transfer.

Its easy to do, get yourself some network kit, some crimpers and plugs along with a tester. There are plenty of guides on how to make your own cable

[skywatch]

:fight::giveup:
LOL.

He said he's only got a single port modem, so how on earth is a switch going to route WAN packets directly from a modem?

If he already had a router then a switch could be used. But he doesn't have a router already.

Furthermore, a switch will not have uPNP, an SPI firewall, and a whole host of other security and practicality features a router has.


One thing is for certain though skywatch..... When you buy your switch and plug it all in and nothing happens, I will be just as sad as you.
fanks for advice :listen:new router then :secruity::ahhhhh:time tickin

[skywatch]

Again Skywatch, just ignore Asim, he's obviously somebody who knows very little about nothing much....

Asim, if what he has is just a modem then how is he connecting his PC to it via ethernet cable? (he was thinking he could split the RJ45 port) Think about it.... before making yourself sound silly again.... (although he has not been clear, he obviously has a router, doesnt he)
sorry if dint mek me sen clear yes got a router we one port need to split it if possible to two feeds like you said so its possible to do that then thnks

[skywatch]

:giveup:
Absolutely, if you connect one port from your router into a 5 port switch, you then have 4 more ports to use... Couldnt be simpler... 10/100 switches/hubs are the cheapest, and suitable for almost everybody for everyday use and connecting devices to the internet... For those who regularly transfer massive gigabytes of files within their network then a 10/100/1000 Gigabit switch will be faster, but Gigabit switches usually work out at twice the price of a 10/100 switch..
hi mate these do work then with a single lan router ie just plug in an ive got more lan ports from the single lan port router thanks again to one and all

[cunny]

You need to go into a lan switch. A splitter is only either or so you coukd not have the 2 devices running at the same time. 1 or the other. Going tbrough a lan switch gives you the ability to have more than 1 device all at same time

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[asim18]

:giveup:
hi mate these do work then with a single lan router ie just plug in an ive got more lan ports from the single lan port router thanks again to one and all

If your "router" only has one port on it then it is not a router - it is a modem. It is impossible for a modem with only one port to be a router, because the whole point of a router is to share (aka. route) a single internet connection between many devices.

When you plug in your new switch to the modem it will NOT be able to share your internet with your computer and skybox at the same time. The modem will only bind itself to ONE device at a time, either the PC or skybox. This is because switches do not posses the ability to perform NAT (network address translation).

If your "router" has many Ethernet ports on it, then it is a router and it is already performing the very important NAT function, therefore you will be able to use a switch with it to get more Ethernet ports.

You don't have to follow my advice, in fact it would be good if you didn't listen to me because I want to see the other dudes reaction and also want to see how he will help you get your switch working. At the end of the day I'm still going to go to work tomorrow morning where I set up and manage dozens enterprise grade routers, switches and servers worth hundreds of thousands of pounds.



Asim, if what he has is just a modem then how is he connecting his PC to it via ethernet cable? Eh :p

I have a single port modem sitting under my desk which is connected to my PC via Ethernet port, and I'm looking at it right now! :p

[Hadron]

Again Skywatch, just ignore Asim, he's obviously somebody who knows very little about nothing much....

Asim, if what he has is just a modem then how is he connecting his PC to it via ethernet cable? (he was thinking he could split the RJ45 port) Think about it.... before making yourself sound silly again.... (although he has not been clear, he obviously has a router, doesnt he)

If Skywatch is with VM (previously ntl), then he may well still have a modem such as an ntl:250. This has a single ethernet connector (see attachment). I used to have one of these & needed a seperate router to connect other devices. This was the router I used:-

NEW! Tenda W311R Wireless N Cable DSL Broadband Router: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics


It would help if Skywatch could tell us which modem he is actually using.

[skywatch]

If Skywatch is with VM (previously ntl), then he may well still have a modem such as an ntl:250. This has a single ethernet connector (see attachment). I used to have one of these & needed a seperate router to connect other devices. This was the router I used:-

NEW! Tenda W311R Wireless N Cable DSL Broadband Router: Amazon.co.uk: Electronics (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Tenda-W311R-Wireless-Broadband-Router/dp/B003FJMUCY)
the one you got in the picture thanks to all :giveup:

It would help if Skywatch could tell us which modem he is actually using.
the one in the picture thanks to you all

[asim18]

Yep. That confirms it. A switch will not work with that mate.

You need a router. Like the one Hadron suggested.