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genius76
19th June, 2014, 11:20 AM
E60 3.0d 2004 03reg first generation engine need injectors coding or not? like in pic if yes bmw scanner 1.4.0 can do it?
and any body know correct back leek in ml limit?
here i have 3 min leak test changet two ( 2 and 5 ) but still same wibration
Thanks
Meat-Head
19th June, 2014, 08:02 PM
Won't argue but wibration the words counterbalance and crap, look on rideons car manufacters *** up thread
genius76
19th June, 2014, 08:16 PM
Thanks met I minded that saiking like misfairing with fault code smoch runing vanker maximum excited
So now tvo ( 2 and 5) are chenjet and leekll test shows only 17ml sou think goot
Boot canot found ned him coding or not found only for newest models also not sure how many millilitres sould on these enjynes and rwo or three minutes
Meat-Head
19th June, 2014, 09:09 PM
Speak inglish not ishit. Look on youtuba for videos on
polish bloke with one
rideon
19th June, 2014, 09:44 PM
genius76 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/348683-genius76/) ,If you feel like ....in the working mood (I don't..)switch the injectors you're not sure about 2 and 5 with,i don't know..1 and 6...
If nothing good happens,remove all the injectors,change the engine and refit injectors...
Talking about bosch injectors..there is no such thing as 'correct back leak' IMHO......
smokey08
19th June, 2014, 11:07 PM
They should be coded. They are euro4 injectors with a 7 digit code. I have never tried to do it with bmw scanner.
First thing I would be checking is the swirl flaps as they always set the smooth running controller faultcode when they break.
DOUGALMCD
19th June, 2014, 11:18 PM
Check the bird in parts dept flaps she's gagging for it or just remove swirl flaps lol
genius76
20th June, 2014, 06:36 AM
rideon (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/91499-rideon/) I know that correct are on newest 2 mihn 16~20ml but not sure about first generation, why asked
smokey08 (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/136801-smokey08/) DOUGALMCD (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/252553-dougalmcd/) swirl flaps they removed someone before
Meat-Head (http://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/members/81877-meat-head/) write this post when i going to sleep, i not sure, when i finished, as my kids stole my phone after
rideon
20th June, 2014, 08:21 PM
I know that correct are on newest 2 mihn 16~20ml but not sure about first generation, why asked
Those bosch injectors we are talking about are mounted in many engines with different ECU's and different maps in those ECU....
the back leak test is some kind of"redneck style" check on injectors...All one can be sure(enough) is comparing one cylinder with another,and that being done while watching in live data "smooth running" in your case.
If you work long enough on one particular engine with one particular fuel system,that's another story...yo can talk about 20 ml in 3 min while idle,for example...assuming that the lat 100 cars you checked were leaking 20 ml in 3 min.....
:confused:Not sure if i made any sense so i'll stop for now ............:confused:
genius76
21st June, 2014, 05:43 AM
nice one mate sou wauxhall/opel Reno Peugeot and others putting back leak test chart in max ml on TIS and other documentations are what?
rideon
21st June, 2014, 09:15 AM
Statistics.. m8...statistics...
Although is a whole new trend in auto industry...
Common failure database is another example of statistics used in fixing cars....
In other words ,there are benchmarks for testing commonrail injectors can test opening/closing time spray pattern and sooo on...
back leak test was designed mainly for non starters ,to give mechanic a tool to quickly diagnose a dead injector...
Meat-Head
21st June, 2014, 10:03 AM
Leak back rumor stares MYST be indain running
rideon
22nd June, 2014, 12:05 AM
If the indain refuses to run,even with two pitbulls chasing him.......
you can do a leack back test while cranking.....
Meat-Head
22nd June, 2014, 08:23 AM
Yeah but it is not good, you crank long time, see what you get, then you do run run, you do run run the indain you often get different results.
had it before dumps lots of fuel out on cranking
smokey08
23rd June, 2014, 12:29 AM
The official bmw tool holds the indian at 2000rpm and measures leakback at spicyness 200bar (korma) then it raises spicyness to 1600bar (phall) and measures again.
There is also a guided function in the service function menu to measure the imbalance (correction values) of the errectors. It has all the specifications stored for each car.
doktorabg
25th June, 2014, 07:22 AM
E60 3.0d 2004 03reg first generation engine need injectors coding or not? like in pic if yes bmw scanner 1.4.0 can do it?
and any body know correct back leek in ml limit?
here i have 3 min leak test changet two ( 2 and 5 ) but still same wibration
Thanks
Not need to be coding the new injectors, only erase the adaption values with INPA or DIS.
From picture I see that the N.2 and N.5 are bad
With inpa or dis the value should be between -4 ? +5 mg/hub on idle speed only
genius76
3rd July, 2014, 02:19 PM
finally get compression test and found second cylinder only 14 bar compare to all 28 bar
sou here is probs. think flaps been before sucked in, possible valve or something prob.
so customer with big smile ( not sure why ) drives away, think happy that can sell now this car :)
Thanks for all who answer for any reason or not reason :)
Meat-Head
3rd July, 2014, 02:26 PM
Rumor states flap kills ingibecshen it giesvisf (iShit Failiure) when flap break good night vienna
genius76
3rd July, 2014, 02:30 PM
possible mate , his not wanted invest more couple hundred buks for investigate more
rideon
3rd July, 2014, 10:44 PM
finally get compression test............
M8,you give me a tanks and a like for post no 5........but that was more that a week ago...
Is that the reason you begun your post with 'finally'?
Don't get me wrong,if the customer pays for one week of 'further investigation' ,that definitely works for me...
rideon
3rd July, 2014, 10:48 PM
Rumor states flap ...........
Think i should move closer to wherever you live...lots of rumors there...
If i only heard this rumor few years ago......
genius76
4th July, 2014, 06:54 AM
injectors been bad mate after changed all ecu gets free from fault codes related to idling, why not counts bad cylinder don't ask,
as you post mate, looks like u not work in garage - simple i have allots of cars and i cant put my hands on all at one time, most of him come non running, here sometime weeks going fast and car waiting their own time
Meat-Head
4th July, 2014, 07:24 AM
Say that again on plain inglish for people in hang over mode,? Thanksssss
rideon
4th July, 2014, 05:51 PM
as you post mate, looks like u not work in garage
Spot on... i'm on vacation now...
Still, for a couple of years now i've been busy like hell,thrust me i know the meaning of the word 'busy'
it was my friend for too long...
As i sad before, now i'm in some kind of vacation...but that will end pretty soon..
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The simple fact that you're busy says something about you......
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