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rob h
11th April, 2019, 11:20 PM
611662Yes, better picture, you have 2 options.
They should both work. But most likely no1.

no.1
A 8-7-7-
B -3-4-4

no.2
A --7-7-
B 13-4-4


n0.1 837474
n0.2 137474

MaLu2018
12th April, 2019, 08:24 AM
Thank u my friend, customer will come again next week. I will report if it worked.

But I still don’t understand why door goes open (and ignition with 1mm pull out) when I completely decoded wrong.


do u know for what is Q & H?

Q= same like 4 and H = same like 8 or not?611705

rob h
12th April, 2019, 10:26 AM
Yes, the Q=4 and H=8.
And by pulling the key, you are changing the Heights of the key cuts.

sleepyrz
14th April, 2019, 11:12 PM
I wanna know where the custom key tool for the m4 jaw is.......

They are sleeping so hard on that

sleepyrz
18th April, 2019, 04:14 PM
still cant cut sc1 and kw1 to code


this is huge failure for xhorse


i bought m4 jaw thinking they would have some sort of functionality for it


but other than a copier it doesnt do jack shit


right?

Maartinj
19th April, 2019, 05:03 AM
still cant cut sc1 and kw1 to code


this is huge failure for xhorse


i bought m4 jaw thinking they would have some sort of functionality for it


but other than a copier it doesnt do jack shit


right?
contact support and explain

sleepyrz
20th April, 2019, 06:32 PM
i told them about this before the m4 jaw came out

i told them about this WHEN the m4 jaw came out and i tested it and m4 jaw isnt even in the custom key tool to be able to use it to make a file for

i told them a few months ago AFTER the m4 jaw came out to put it in the custom key tool so that we the customers can make the files for them if they want

they cant figure it out.............................

kleidaras
20th April, 2019, 07:04 PM
M4 jaw for now is useless.

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darkoman
23rd April, 2019, 07:36 PM
Hi!
Please, if someone can help me how to cut properly emergency key for Megane 3 card on mini Condor?

autoTkey
24th April, 2019, 06:17 AM
Yes - by hand on a manual machine :dancing:

darkoman
24th April, 2019, 09:34 AM
Yes - by hand on a manual machine :dancing:

Sad, but if no other solution...

darkoman
24th April, 2019, 10:29 AM
Wanted to cut key for Fiat ducato SIP22 and Codor shows HU83.. WTF?
SW 5.3.4

gokart
24th April, 2019, 06:29 PM
Wanted to cut key for Fiat ducato SIP22 and Codor shows HU83.. WTF?
SW 5.3.4

It may seem strange but it doesn't cause any problem.

comizelu
3rd May, 2019, 12:56 PM
Hi
I have a Citroen C3 2005 akl
I decoded the lock and I got DBCDCD.
Can someone please confirm this is the right cut?
There is no difference between C and D on my cut..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/629a389e573b4be078be9f83736dc4cc.jpg

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rokibar
3rd May, 2019, 02:25 PM
Hi
I have a Citroen C3 2005 akl
I decoded the lock and I got DBCDCD.
Can someone please confirm this is the right cut?
There is no difference between C and D on my cut..https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190503/629a389e573b4be078be9f83736dc4cc.jpg

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there are differents. because cuts 1,3and 5 are at one side and cuts 2,4 and 6 at the other side

comizelu
3rd May, 2019, 02:30 PM
there are differents. because cuts 1,3and 5 are at one side and cuts 2,4 and 6 at the other sideThanks
Got it now!

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kostat
3rd May, 2019, 05:59 PM
I have a condor mini xc version 3.0.1.
My question is, can i update to the final version 5.3.4 straight ahead?
Or do i have to update all the versions one by one from 3.0.1 up to 5.3.4?

sleepyrz
4th May, 2019, 03:04 PM
Yes - by hand on a manual machine :dancing:



but why


why can it not be cut on the xc-mini?

auto techniek
5th May, 2019, 02:21 PM
Can someone decode?

Which hu64 to choose?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/4cff6e3650b5e8b4b7eebe4289e4d5a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/a435db6733b4454c1fd9214415cbac83.jpg

dedz
5th May, 2019, 11:30 PM
Anyone now how to use condor with here phone ? I now it s possible with instacode but i dont have it ... any idea ?

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rokibar
6th May, 2019, 06:47 AM
Can someone decode?

Which hu64 to choose?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/4cff6e3650b5e8b4b7eebe4289e4d5a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/a435db6733b4454c1fd9214415cbac83.jpg
hi. there are possibility for misticks from picture because there are 5 deepts. beter use micrometer and you will be good.
617525

lion0304
6th May, 2019, 01:03 PM
Can someone decode?

Which hu64 to choose?https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/4cff6e3650b5e8b4b7eebe4289e4d5a9.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190505/a435db6733b4454c1fd9214415cbac83.jpg

It should be: 5353531312

auto techniek
6th May, 2019, 02:25 PM
It should be: 5353531312Type hu64 2?

lion0304
6th May, 2019, 09:30 PM
Type hu64 2?

Exactly Benz HU64

A1B1
7th May, 2019, 07:22 AM
Hello,it is have difference betwen HU72 and HU72r ? Mini condor not corect decode key from sprinter 2003 first 3 biting. In menu condor not have HU72,only have HU72r

auto techniek
7th May, 2019, 03:59 PM
I think this is the best way to choose the right Hu64 key




Type hu64 2?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/31b099cab24385660a2fee0b97de56ec.jpg

jodge
7th May, 2019, 04:34 PM
which key id is this bmw bike key?
thx
617908

kleidaras
7th May, 2019, 05:20 PM
i think is BW9

ghostrider72
7th May, 2019, 07:08 PM
I think this is the best way to choose the right Hu64 key




https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190507/31b099cab24385660a2fee0b97de56ec.jpg

For me it works as decoding on HU64-T. But cutting on 64-2. Not sure why is that but its good so far

auto techniek
7th May, 2019, 07:47 PM
I wil give it a try

I have neven cut a key good at once. Need to try different versions.

lion0304
7th May, 2019, 10:47 PM
I wil give it a try

I have neven cut a key good at once. Need to try different versions.

If you don't try, you'll never know.

THe only thing diffrent with all these blade is use for diffrent shell. Blade cut is the same.

So what blade you choose? Depend of your key shell.

dedz
8th May, 2019, 02:44 AM
Sometime all not work friend need to decode manually and put result on hu64 3

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jodge
8th May, 2019, 07:41 PM
which key id is this bmw bike key?
thx
617908


i think is BW9

not supported even thru insta+BT

kleidaras
8th May, 2019, 07:43 PM
not supported even thru insta+BTI have cut only with manual machine. You want cut lost key?

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WRX 14
8th May, 2019, 08:14 PM
not supported even thru insta+BT

Have you tried HU58? or is there some difference?

jodge
8th May, 2019, 08:32 PM
Have you tried HU58? or is there some difference?

just a few :)

WRX 14
8th May, 2019, 08:38 PM
just a few :)

ah these are internal cut... never seen this one before, just blade i thought look little similar with hu58.

rob h
8th May, 2019, 09:41 PM
The hu64, in your picture, if you doubt, best choose hu64-3.
A Hu64-3 will allign just fine, because the cut closest to the shoulder will work as the shoulder.

sleepyrz
10th May, 2019, 02:55 AM
KA33/x248/km10/kw18

xc-mini machine does not have this key???

cant communicate with machine with instacode as there is no card in the machine forthis key


had to make my own again........

z786
10th May, 2019, 06:47 PM
anbody elses graphics messed up after update? the arrow keys say enlarged letters of keyboard and the key pics look like they need outline cutting out??


on another note which tool cuts new toyota VA8 keys and the new ford2018 blade?

weza247
16th May, 2019, 12:50 PM
Hi anyone have a profile for condor xc-mini
KAWASAKI KW16 Blade

HeXeN
16th May, 2019, 03:45 PM
I cannot cut VA2 from Megane III WHY?
Cannot go by model, when I choose via Renault megane 2003- and adapter M2-C it cuts fuc...g wrong because can only open car, cannot close or opposite, cant remember.
When choosing via blade type & M2-A it shows another bullshit. WHY?
I have tried via all types of VA2 and all the same is one total shit & wrong for this type or model & year.
Look at this picture.

autoTkey
16th May, 2019, 03:51 PM
It can't cut emergency blade - it never could. It's an old and common disease.

HeXeN
16th May, 2019, 06:32 PM
It can't cut emergency blade - it never could. It's an old and common disease.
But I have cut Laguna III 2009 2 months ago and it worked ok with the door locks. Used M2-C

kleidaras
16th May, 2019, 07:05 PM
But I have cut Laguna III 2009 2 months ago and it worked ok with the door locks. Used M2-CThe card you have on photo is not for megane3 blade. Is for Clio 3 key or aygo key etc. Not exist card for megane 3 or laguna 3 on mini.

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HeXeN
16th May, 2019, 09:07 PM
Can SEC-E9 cut more types than mini?

solitaire
17th May, 2019, 12:39 PM
deleted...

sleepyrz
17th May, 2019, 10:42 PM
Hi anyone have a profile for condor xc-mini
KAWASAKI KW16 Blade


kw16 silca same as x103 ilco

silca card 151
instacode card 58
hpc card cmc50/pmc50

and instacode cannot communicate this info to machine............


what the ~~~~ is the point of having instacode connectivity if it doesnt work.............................................. ..............................



if you want to try it you can try to cut it with ssy2

just make the 7th cut a 1

and you would have to use 2 as 1 3 as 2 4 as 3 and then if you needed to cut a 4 just make it a 3 and cut it deeper with a file


but thats why i always have a manual HPC punch with me

dont need any of this stuff


just clamp it up and use a micrometer card if you have to but generally theres already a card for it


btw just open up the custom key tool and make your own card for this key and upload it to the xc-mini in about 5 minutes





yea i timed it

it took me 4 minutes

i made the file for you

its on my computer you want?

weza247
18th May, 2019, 11:16 AM
kw16 silca same as x103 ilco

silca card 151
instacode card 58
hpc card cmc50/pmc50
and instacode cannot communicate this info to machine............


what the ~~~~ is the point of having instacode connectivity if it doesnt work.............................................. ..............................



if you want to try it you can try to cut it with ssy2

just make the 7th cut a 1

and you would have to use 2 as 1 3 as 2 4 as 3 and then if you needed to cut a 4 just make it a 3 and cut it deeper with a file


but thats why i always have a manual HPC punch with me

dont need any of this stuff


just clamp it up and use a micrometer card if you have to but generally theres already a card for it


btw just open up the custom key tool and make your own card for this key and upload it to the xc-mini in about 5 minutes





yea i timed it

it took me 4 minutes

i made the file for you

its on my computer you want?

thanks i already built it up and loaded it. i find you have to fit key in exacly flat for measure and cutting. mine works ok thanks alot

weza247
18th May, 2019, 11:18 AM
kw16 silca same as x103 ilco

silca card 151
instacode card 58
hpc card cmc50/pmc50

and instacode cannot communicate this info to machine............


what the ~~~~ is the point of having instacode connectivity if it doesnt work.............................................. ..............................



if you want to try it you can try to cut it with ssy2

just make the 7th cut a 1

and you would have to use 2 as 1 3 as 2 4 as 3 and then if you needed to cut a 4 just make it a 3 and cut it deeper with a file


but thats why i always have a manual HPC punch with me

dont need any of this stuff


just clamp it up and use a micrometer card if you have to but generally theres already a card for it


btw just open up the custom key tool and make your own card for this key and upload it to the xc-mini in about 5 minutes





yea i timed it

it took me 4 minutes

i made the file for you

its on my computer you want?

i did notice the 3 and 4 cut is slightly off but worked my way around it. :peaceful:

fytfh
21st May, 2019, 05:33 AM
how to cut bmw F10 mechanical key i not find it in condor

solitaire
21st May, 2019, 07:40 AM
Cut by bitting
h100r
enter manually

PierreTheron
22nd May, 2019, 08:55 PM
I not find any Avanza keys in Condor database

Is it going to be added one Day ???

On ignition lock i find cutting code E314A

I waisted about 5 blanks and still not opening the lock with any off them

So will have to strip lock further apart

Ok stripped lock
Cutting code by bitting is 23 21 23 34 22
from the levers .
This looks like toy43 key for corolla but cutting it this way is also no go ????

sleepyrz
23rd May, 2019, 03:13 AM
do you look the car up or something to cut keys??????

just a 2 second google search shows me its not even a toyota its a daihatsu ~~~~~

you dont have a 10 cut lishi?

also what year is it

and most toyota has key code on passenger door lock or if absent it is on drivers door lock


your ignition code i dont think means anything tho

sleepyrz
23rd May, 2019, 03:40 AM
oh lool i forgot toyota wafers are stamped backwards

4=1
3=2
2=3
1=4

try cut to code 62045

or code 53204

depends on if you translated wafers or not

one of those should work

MaLu2018
27th May, 2019, 02:02 PM
623073623074

Hello, i had problems to cut a HU43 (picture is Original Key) it can close the door but dont open it and it cant Circle the ignition, too.

unfortunately i dont have picture from the spare key which doesnt work...

experience?

weza247
11th June, 2019, 08:32 AM
Hi can XHORSE modify this file format for me please.
check original cut on top
and condor mini file i loaded cut bottom key.
key cuts perfect all measurements is perfect just the way it cuts
sometimes the key cuts but key falls out of ign.
bottom key is cut wave style the cutting format is not good. if xhorse can fix this file i will load the key file

nyandacca
12th June, 2019, 09:28 AM
I got xc-mini plus today, but the display does not turn on.
Is there power switch other than main power button?

weza247
21st June, 2019, 09:44 AM
can SAMIC help with this

HeXeN
28th June, 2019, 01:14 PM
How to cut Kawasaki KW14 with condor ?

HeXeN
28th June, 2019, 01:41 PM
Volvo HU56R, where is the problem?

HeXeN
28th June, 2019, 01:44 PM
Jaguar HU101. Probe got damaged while trying to decode blade.

sleepyrz
28th June, 2019, 08:09 PM
Yes I warned about this somewhere

You need to scrape key with a file

It is aluminum and has layer of oxide that is non-conductive

Scratch key a lot on sides where it touches clamp and on tip of key and where wafers touch then you will get a good read

I did this on a landrover

Same thing broke tracer

Then I figure it out need to scratch key so it will conduct electricity for probe

auto techniek
29th June, 2019, 11:01 PM
Guys


Hoe often do you calibrate this piece of s**t. Today tried to cut h64 blade. Made 10 blades and only one could close the door but not open.
Original blade hu64 duplicated on hu64-3

May be i do something wrong who knows.

comizelu
29th June, 2019, 11:16 PM
Guys


Hoe often do you calibrate this piece of s**t. Today tried to cut h64 blade. Made 10 blades and only one could close the door but not open.
Original blade hu64 duplicated on hu64-3

May be i do something wrong who knows.I never calibrated it
I also done one update,1 year ago.
When I cut hu64 I check machine if decoding ok,when when touching the bites.
Sometimes does not decode well,you can actually see it during decoding.
If does not decode well,I decode by eye and than cut.if decode well I just take the bytes and choose hu64-3 on cutting by bites and input the bytes..
It's a bit tricky but it works!
Good luck!

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kluczbum
30th June, 2019, 08:36 AM
631563 cut the stair on the key
look at the photo

Volvo HU56R, where is the problem?
Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version.

Faraday
30th June, 2019, 01:50 PM
Guys


Hoe often do you calibrate this piece of s**t. Today tried to cut h64 blade. Made 10 blades and only one could close the door but not open.
Original blade hu64 duplicated on hu64-3

May be i do something wrong who knows.

I did hu64 no problem.

auto techniek
30th June, 2019, 02:08 PM
I did hu64 no problem.How to determine which hu64 to choose?

I use this. Some times get Suc6 but mostly not. Yesterday cut 10 Keys none of them worked. Only one could close door but not open it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/af5137cf56412bb0294bcbc5f7d9f7b9.jpg

hipolitogt
30th June, 2019, 03:10 PM
How to determine which hu64 to choose?

I use this. Some times get Suc6 but mostly not. Yesterday cut 10 Keys none of them worked. Only one could close door but not open it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/af5137cf56412bb0294bcbc5f7d9f7b9.jpgAs some users told you, first decode as hu64, see if it's decoding ok, if not, try other options, and always cut as hu64-3. I never had problems.

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wheepy
1st July, 2019, 03:04 PM
yes same way i did it

cut off head of key

stick in blade and cut

duplicate key onto another one with head


I found another solution for GT15R and other keys not long enough.
Simply bought a second M1 clamp, and did cut the clamp directly to have more room for such keys :D

wheepy
1st July, 2019, 03:08 PM
How to determine which hu64 to choose?

I use this. Some times get Suc6 but mostly not. Yesterday cut 10 Keys none of them worked. Only one could close door but not open it.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190630/af5137cf56412bb0294bcbc5f7d9f7b9.jpg


In my case I have noticed this :
- Older keys = decode HU64
- Newer keys = decode HU64-2

Cutting : always HU64-2 (on VVDI BGA keys). If decoding was on older keys, then re-input values manually.

wheepy
1st July, 2019, 03:12 PM
631563 cut the stair on the key
look at the photo

Volvo HU56R, where is the problem?
Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version.


This looks more like HU43 or SIP16 to me, but in any cases, older version of HU56R in Condor were bad and cut too low.
Maybe you can try to get latest update, if not done already ?

auto techniek
1st July, 2019, 05:46 PM
In my case I have noticed this :
- Older keys = decode HU64
- Newer keys = decode HU64-2

Cutting : always HU64-2 (on VVDI BGA keys). If decoding was on older keys, then re-input values manually.I was told vvdi be keys always use hu64-3.

Carkeysa
1st July, 2019, 08:59 PM
The difference between these are where the first and I guess the last bit begin and end. HU64-3 first starts on 3.80mm, Hu64-2 4.50 and HU64 5.80. Sometimes the shoulder toward the back of the key needs some filing so that the key can go deeper in to the lock or it won't match up with the bitting.



In my case I have noticed this :
- Older keys = decode HU64
- Newer keys = decode HU64-2

Cutting : always HU64-2 (on VVDI BGA keys). If decoding was on older keys, then re-input values manually.

artfull
2nd July, 2019, 07:42 AM
http://blog.xhorsevvdi.com/condor-xc-mini-benz-w204-2010-key-cutting-review/

brobble
3rd July, 2019, 10:37 AM
I´m proud owner of a condor mini plus now. My first key was opel corsa c, cutted by code from carpass. All went well. Today I tried to cut plastic emergency key passat 3C. First I wanted to decode the original key. I dont know, what is different at this key. At the beginning of decode the machine broke the probe!!! Not at the clamp (M2-C), but at the key. The dimensions of key looks same like metal blade of Golf4/T5 Flip Key Blade. I have a spare probe. Installed, made height calibration and clamp calibration for Clamp M2. But didnt try to decode again and decoded by my eyes and tried to cut direct from bitting code. But it seems, that the material is to soft. The maschine abort with error. Any tips?

Greets MR...

comizelu
3rd July, 2019, 10:44 AM
I´m proud owner of a condor mini plus now. My first key was opel corsa c, cutted by code from carpass. All went well. Today I tried to cut plastic emergency key passat 3C. First I wanted to decode the original key. I dont know, what is different at this key. At the beginning of decode the machine broke the probe!!! Not at the clamp (M2-C), but at the key. The dimensions of key looks same like metal blade of Golf4/T5 Flip Key Blade. I have a spare probe. Installed, made height calibration and clamp calibration for Clamp M2. But didnt try to decode again and decoded by my eyes and tried to cut direct from bitting code. But it seems, that the material is to soft. The maschine abort with error. Any tips?

Greets MR...Plastic keys.. cut with manual machines!

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autoTkey
3rd July, 2019, 11:39 AM
I´m proud owner of a condor mini plus now. My first key was opel corsa c, cutted by code from carpass. All went well. Today I tried to cut plastic emergency key passat 3C. First I wanted to decode the original key. I dont know, what is different at this key. At the beginning of decode the machine broke the probe!!! Not at the clamp (M2-C), but at the key. The dimensions of key looks same like metal blade of Golf4/T5 Flip Key Blade. I have a spare probe. Installed, made height calibration and clamp calibration for Clamp M2. But didnt try to decode again and decoded by my eyes and tried to cut direct from bitting code. But it seems, that the material is to soft. The maschine abort with error. Any tips?

Greets MR...

Have you ever heard of plastic keys which are able to conduct electricity? Me neither!

WRX 14
3rd July, 2019, 12:30 PM
I´m proud owner of a condor mini plus now. My first key was opel corsa c, cutted by code from carpass. All went well. Today I tried to cut plastic emergency key passat 3C. First I wanted to decode the original key. I dont know, what is different at this key. At the beginning of decode the machine broke the probe!!! Not at the clamp (M2-C), but at the key. The dimensions of key looks same like metal blade of Golf4/T5 Flip Key Blade. I have a spare probe. Installed, made height calibration and clamp calibration for Clamp M2. But didnt try to decode again and decoded by my eyes and tried to cut direct from bitting code. But it seems, that the material is to soft. The maschine abort with error. Any tips?

Greets MR...

The tracer probe works by conducting a small current through the probe, key blade and clamp back to the machine.
i.e. when probe touches the key blade it connects and will stop the probe moving and basically record the position.
Since plastic key doesn't conduct electricity it won't detect the blade and keep moving until probe break.

Similar situation when try cut a blade, machine wil not 'SEE' the blank plastic blade and will give error.
One possible way around this may be to insert the correct type metal blade and press cut... let it detect blade then before it start cutting press pause button and switch metal blade for plastic.
(NOTE: Never tried this method myself, but have heard others discuss and recommend this method)

sleepyrz
3rd July, 2019, 01:26 PM
Indeed plastic doesn't conduct electricity

Machine is only as smart as it's operator

brobble
3rd July, 2019, 01:43 PM
Oh, I didnt know, that the probe works with electric current. Sorry for my stupidity... :-)

Greets MR...

cniksor
10th July, 2019, 08:25 AM
Similar situation when try cut a blade, machine wil not 'SEE' the blank plastic blade and will give error.
One possible way around this may be to insert the correct type metal blade and press cut... let it detect blade then before it start cutting press pause button and switch metal blade for plastic.
(NOTE: Never tried this method myself, but have heard others discuss and recommend this method)

i cut plastic keys using this method, no issues.

jodge
23rd July, 2019, 03:49 PM
card 164 blade YM15
Mercedes blade
It's cuts the tip of the key like GT15 and bcose the thicker blade and the speed also broke the cutter too around half way

autoTkey
23rd July, 2019, 03:52 PM
Not cool. Which speed setting was your machine set to ?

jodge
24th July, 2019, 02:51 PM
Not cool. Which speed setting was your machine set to ?

absolute default settings :) i never adjust the speed..etc

gokart
25th July, 2019, 07:58 PM
card 164 blade YM15
Mercedes blade
It's cuts the tip of the key like GT15 and bcose the thicker blade and the speed also broke the cutter too around half way

Exactly. These faults haven't been corrected for years.

sleepyrz
25th July, 2019, 10:11 PM
Also useless m4 jaw

Doesn't even do a good copy

It is just complete garbage

Add it to the custom key tool so we can make it decent you friggin goofballs

sleepyrz
25th July, 2019, 11:25 PM
card 164 blade YM15
Mercedes blade
It's cuts the tip of the key like GT15 and bcose the thicker blade and the speed also broke the cutter too around half way

So here's the deal with the ym15

in their infinite wisdom the xhorse team decided to set the maximum key blank length in the custom key tool and I believe in the entire machine to 3000 or 30 mm

the problem comes with this key blank being 33 mm and the Condor allows another mm around the tip to pass by as it goes to side B

this is impossible for this machine to do the only way to cut this key is to have your hand ready to pull the blade back so it doesn't hit the tip..............

Xhorse could fix this they choose not to.......


I can't even fix it myself with the custom key tool!!!!!

It only allows max 30mm key blank length in the program

autoTkey
26th July, 2019, 06:14 AM
And add to this the birth problem with VA2 emergency blade... Why so hard to fix these ?

jodge
26th July, 2019, 08:13 AM
maybe we can ask Mr. PremierD to make a sticky-sticky post about the know and never fixed errors. Like in the first post or something. All errors in one place and we don't make useless posts this errors in every few months.

SAMDoctor
27th July, 2019, 10:50 AM
Has anyone cutted a Triumph key with Dolphin machine? I was surprised of not finding Triumph on the database. With a bit of measuring and information from here and there, I think this is the right cutting info:

https://i.imgur.com/Fq2dapO.png

https://i.imgur.com/Sx1GGmW.png



Has anyone cutted this key already and can offer some help?

sleepyrz
28th July, 2019, 12:06 PM
Has anyone cutted a Triumph key with Dolphin machine? I was surprised of not finding Triumph on the database. With a bit of measuring and information from here and there, I think this is the right cutting info:

https://i.imgur.com/Fq2dapO.png

https://i.imgur.com/Sx1GGmW.png



Has anyone cutted this key already and can offer some help?

Cut by bitting

Zd10

Enter cuts

Hit cut key

You are welcome

Thanks button is on lower left corner

If in vehicle database go to BMW cycles (other) or go to Yamaha various models and click on zd10

sleepyrz
30th July, 2019, 12:32 AM
was having a short chat with samic he wanted to know some common house keys to add to the database


i just said so far

kw1
kw10
sc1
sc4
y1


any others we should add??














also added the problem with ym15 tip

and the old gm 6 cut listed in the machine as GM1 wont do anything at all

SAMDoctor
1st August, 2019, 08:49 AM
Silca UL050 and UL054 here in the UK. Yales are also popular.

profi
2nd August, 2019, 07:25 AM
TN16X, AGB1, BK15, CS206, CS85

sleepyrz
2nd August, 2019, 05:03 PM
TN16X, AGB1, BK15, CS206, CS85


region and key blank brand???

thailand ?

germany?

russia?


silca?

ilco?

jet?

cisa?



need details

profi
3rd August, 2019, 07:00 AM
Silca, EU, Croatia

SAMDoctor
6th August, 2019, 08:45 PM
Hi!
I have found a few keys (motorcycles mostly) that need a diferent profile in the key tip, but some of the blanks doesn't have that tip profile. How do you cut these? It would be great if the Dolphin could have a "tip shaping" cut for these blanks.

sleepyrz
6th August, 2019, 09:08 PM
Hi!
I have found a few keys (motorcycles mostly) that need a diferent profile in the key tip, but some of the blanks doesn't have that tip profile. How do you cut these? It would be great if the Dolphin could have a "tip shaping" cut for these blanks.

like what exactly

SAMDoctor
6th August, 2019, 09:39 PM
Let´s say a Yamaha key, Silca YH35H blank. This is a chinese blank:

641273

But the real key has a different tip profile:
641275

I´ve filed these to fit, but would be great if it´s part of the key cutting routine (like the 9th cut on VAG keys).

K1nd3r
9th August, 2019, 08:21 AM
how to normal cut hu101/hu64 with xc002, fastening is problem

cniksor
11th August, 2019, 02:39 PM
My xc condor mini 1 is getting very loud when cutting. Like a screeching sound when it cuts the blade. Sometimes it’s doesnt but lot of the times it does. Anything I can do to help? Maybe a maintenance I need to go over? Also this issue is with brand new blades as well. Have it for 1 1/2 year now. Besides that cuts no problems

PerryZhang
12th August, 2019, 03:41 AM
My xc condor mini 1 is getting very loud when cutting. Like a screeching sound when it cuts the blade. Sometimes it’s doesnt but lot of the times it does. Anything I can do to help? Maybe a maintenance I need to go over? Also this issue is with brand new blades as well. Have it for 1 1/2 year now. Besides that cuts no problems
hi , pls add this skype : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx for solve your issue

dustin2014
12th August, 2019, 12:36 PM
How can we cut and decode the newer Toyota key in Mini 642440 Condor, This ones from a 2013 Toyota Auris. I couldnt find any option in Mini for it.

jodge
12th August, 2019, 01:44 PM
it's VA8
rob h made a custom key file for it
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/723900-Toyota-bitting?highlight=toyota

dustin2014
13th August, 2019, 03:02 AM
it's VA8
rob h made a custom key file for it
https://www.digital-kaos.co.uk/forums/showthread.php/723900-Toyota-bitting?highlight=toyota

Thanks Rob & Jodge

K1nd3r
14th August, 2019, 08:33 PM
condor mini PLUS contains battery inside?

Weasel3
14th August, 2019, 09:16 PM
Please do some work on the HU64 in the APP.
Decode:

HU64-1 Get numbers and cut exactly the same blade.
Result: different than original, but some similarity. Does not work in the lock cylinder.

Then take a new blade.

HU64-3 write in the same numbers decoded.
Result: Looks more like original cut blade, but not 100%. And also work in the lock cylinder as original does.

PerryZhang
15th August, 2019, 03:00 AM
condor mini PLUS contains battery inside?
no , it no has battery , need to connect with power cable

PerryZhang
15th August, 2019, 03:02 AM
Please do some work on the HU64 in the APP.
Decode:

HU64-1 Get numbers and cut exactly the same blade.
Result: different than original, but some similarity. Does not work in the lock cylinder.

Then take a new blade.

HU64-3 write in the same numbers decoded.
Result: Looks more like original cut blade, but not 100%. And also work in the lock cylinder as original does.

for the HU64 , it has 3 types , hu64-1 ,hu64-2, hu64-3 , it is only the tip is different about those 3 types , the angel is not the same , if you can not make sure which if your key ,you can use universal decode to copy one exact the same key ,

mista1234
15th August, 2019, 10:42 AM
hi friend where did you buy your xhorse condor mini for europe ? thanx for advice

Weasel3
15th August, 2019, 12:49 PM
for the HU64 , it has 3 types , hu64-1 ,hu64-2, hu64-3 , it is only the tip is different about those 3 types , the angel is not the same , if you can not make sure which if your key ,you can use universal decode to copy one exact the same key ,
643210

I use this pictures as a reference.
Those two in the middle, I choose as HU64-1.

I tried to decode Universal on side B on the clamp. It would not sense the key, when I tried. But I can do some more tests in the Universal part, locally. To be prepared.

cniksor
27th August, 2019, 06:04 AM
DOLPHIN, when i do all keys lost and use key database, it shows inaccurate key cut. if i use the same key code on my condor mini, it shows correct cut. anyone have this issue as well? i cant trust the dolphin database and i have it all updated.

Weasel3
27th August, 2019, 09:43 AM
DOLPHIN, when i do all keys lost and use key database, it shows inaccurate key cut. if i use the same key code on my condor mini, it shows correct cut. anyone have this issue as well? i cant trust the dolphin database and i have it all updated.

Yes there is some work to do here. HU162T also fails.
But fail less than A9.
Managed to open with key cut, but not close. The A9 couldn't even do that. The side cuts is the problem, on both machines.
When attaching the HU162T blade to the Dolph, I used a HU101 as a tool. I cut a bit of the end, where the Roller pin is attached. Removing any sharp edges.
And it worked quite good as a spacer. To fasten the blade to the clamp. When needed to place the blade in horizontal position.



Earlier with the HU64 I managed to do different types of blades. One blade style, open the door fine. But not close. The other blade style, do not open. But closes fine.

But the A9 struggle even more on these.
Except for the old W203 style, which is good. Just needs to grind off a little bit of metal at the top of the key blade (Key ring side). So the end of the tip, will be touching the small metal measure tool.
There is about 1mm in difference. And there is the CN factory of the blades, who makes this small error in production. And made me an headache, before I found this easy solution.

Not talking about the #1358, but another vehicle.

iHenry3
1st September, 2019, 10:12 AM
was having a short chat with samic he wanted to know some common house keys to add to the database


i just said so far

kw1
kw10
sc1
sc4
y1


any others we should add??














also added the problem with ym15 tip

and the old gm 6 cut listed in the machine as GM1 wont do anything at all

Also
Best Commercial Key 6 and 7 Cut
HU100 10 Cut

PerryZhang
2nd September, 2019, 03:04 AM
DOLPHIN, when i do all keys lost and use key database, it shows inaccurate key cut. if i use the same key code on my condor mini, it shows correct cut. anyone have this issue as well? i cant trust the dolphin database and i have it all updated.what key code you used ? dolphin and condor mini both use the same database ,how could happened like that , you can add this skype : xhorse-support2 for share me more info ,

MVVL
5th September, 2019, 10:41 AM
Hey. I have such a question on Dolphin. With the loss of all keys on the KIA and Hyundai, the program states that it is possible to calculate the mechanical key code from the car's wincode. I tried, resulting in an error. This option does not work or is there a secret? What else can you determine the mechanical key code for the wincode?

sleepyrz
5th September, 2019, 04:57 PM
Where did it say that???

I don't think you read that correctly

RG550
6th September, 2019, 05:36 AM
Cant cut Volvo HU56R, any suggestions , always overcut...2.5 mm cutter....

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triak88
6th September, 2019, 07:09 AM
you must set cutting -0,35 and all ok.

RG550
6th September, 2019, 09:15 AM
you must set cutting -0,35 and all ok.

Like this?
648615

triak88
6th September, 2019, 09:39 AM
YES THAT IS OK

RG550
6th September, 2019, 12:16 PM
YES THAT IS OK

Again over cut...

648665

gokart
6th September, 2019, 04:33 PM
Again over cut...


It's a well known problem. Use -0.65 mm correction.

RG550
6th September, 2019, 04:45 PM
It's a well known problem. Use -0.65 mm correction.

I think this is a winner :), thank you

rob h
11th September, 2019, 11:00 PM
650029
The one on top is the original.
After cutting a key, that would not work, i calibrated the condor.
Cut a new key, showing in the picture.
Checked it with a caliper. Seems perfect.
But not opening the lock.
Org opens lock smooth.
Could it be the shoulder, shifting the blade of center?
Car is no longer in my shop, and this key, i send to customer.
what am i missing here, this key should work?!?

dmp
12th September, 2019, 12:41 AM
650029
The one on top is the original.
After cutting a key, that would not work, i calibrated the condor.
Cut a new key, showing in the picture.
Checked it with a caliper. Seems perfect.
But not opening the lock.
Org opens lock smooth.
Could it be the shoulder, shifting the blade of center?
Car is no longer in my shop, and this key, i send to customer.
what am i missing here, this key should work?!?Bottom key slightly shorter. Cut using hu64-3

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PerryZhang
12th September, 2019, 02:41 AM
650029
The one on top is the original.
After cutting a key, that would not work, i calibrated the condor.
Cut a new key, showing in the picture.
Checked it with a caliper. Seems perfect.
But not opening the lock.
Org opens lock smooth.
Could it be the shoulder, shifting the blade of center?
Car is no longer in my shop, and this key, i send to customer.
what am i missing here, this key should work?!?
the hu64 has 3 type of the tip , the angle of those 3 types are different , the picture you put what above is hu64-3 , downside is hu64-2 , you need to choose correct angel of it , the shoulder is of the blade will effect nothing about open the lock ,

sleepyrz
17th September, 2019, 02:08 AM
so perry there is no way to fix ym15?

PerryZhang
17th September, 2019, 03:24 AM
so perry there is no way to fix ym15?
YM15 ,what is problem of this ?

fabi
17th September, 2019, 04:55 AM
Condor KM02, software 5.1.9. Condor broked 1.5mm cutter when going from left side to right side YM15 key. Mercedes Sprinter.
See https://youtu.be/RHKMVxIxyXA

jodge
17th September, 2019, 10:03 AM
Condor KM02, software 5.1.9. Condor broked 1.5mm cutter when going from left side to right side YM15 key. Mercedes Sprinter.
See https://youtu.be/RHKMVxIxyXA

yeah it's a well know problem they don't fix like the GT15, live with it

RG550
17th September, 2019, 05:18 PM
yeah it's a well know problem they don't fix like the GT15, live with it
GT15 also broke cutter like YM15 ?

dmp
17th September, 2019, 05:24 PM
yeah it's a well know problem they don't fix like the GT15, live with itCut left side of key. Stop cutting, flip key and cut left side again and remove before it moves to right side

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fabi
17th September, 2019, 05:57 PM
HU72R broke cutter like YM15

sleepyrz
18th September, 2019, 07:50 AM
Cut left side of key. Stop cutting, flip key and cut left side again and remove before it moves to right side

Sent from my SM-G960W using Tapatalk

it calibrates on the key on both sides so.........

wont it cut wrong?

for the second time

gokart
18th September, 2019, 08:51 AM
it calibrates on the key on both sides so.........

wont it cut wrong?

for the second time

I think so. You have to pull back the key until the cutter passes the center line of the key.

Weasel3
18th September, 2019, 09:22 PM
Dolph - HU66 - Q7 style.
Update to latest update before cutting.
Smallest cutter mounted. I think it is 1,5mm?

Result:
- Open door - Yes
- Ignition - NO

Cut again with A9, which widens the cut all over - Result - everything is OK.

This one needs fix. Extra time wasted.
Maybe it would be OK with the largest cutter. But did not test.

sleepyrz
19th September, 2019, 10:24 PM
I think so. You have to pull back the key until the cutter passes the center line of the key.

Yea thats pretty much what i do

Or if i dont want to risk losing a finger......

Just cut one side then use duplicator to cut another key

sleepyrz
19th September, 2019, 10:30 PM
YM15 ,what is problem of this ?

It doesnt work.....
Try one
It will cut one side of the key just fine and then as it goes over to the second side to cut it

it cuts off the tip of the key or breaks the cutter or rips the key from the Jaw

It has been like this since day 1 with old condor master 007 machine in 2013

Then you make condor xc-mini
It still has this problem

Then you make condor xc-mini km03
It still has this problem

Now we have condor xc-mini plus
It still has this problem

Now you just released Condor XC Mini Plus 2 and battery powered dolphin
It still has this problem both of them

From day 1 this machine has problems that never got fixed


6 machines later and almost 7 YEARS
You still cant cut simple key??????????

fabi
20th September, 2019, 04:33 AM
It doesnt work.....
Try one
It will cut one side of the key just fine and then as it goes over to the second side to cut it

it cuts off the tip of the key or breaks the cutter or rips the key from the Jaw


It has been like this since day 1 with old condor master 007 machine in 2013

Then you make condor xc-mini
It still has this problem

Then you make condor xc-mini km03
It still has this problem

Now we have condor xc-mini plus
It still has this problem

Now you just released Condor XC Mini Plus 2 and battery powered dolphin
It still has this problem both of them

From day 1 this machine has problems that never got fixed


6 machines later and almost 7 YEARS
You still cant cut simple key??????????



HU72R too

See video:


Condor KM02, software 5.1.9. Condor broked 1.5mm cutter when going from left side to right side YM15 key. Mercedes Sprinter.
See https://youtu.be/RHKMVxIxyXA

RG550
20th September, 2019, 08:18 AM
It doesnt work.....
Try one
It will cut one side of the key just fine and then as it goes over to the second side to cut it

it cuts off the tip of the key or breaks the cutter or rips the key from the Jaw

It has been like this since day 1 with old condor master 007 machine in 2013

Then you make condor xc-mini
It still has this problem

Then you make condor xc-mini km03
It still has this problem

Now we have condor xc-mini plus
It still has this problem

Now you just released Condor XC Mini Plus 2 and battery powered dolphin
It still has this problem both of them

From day 1 this machine has problems that never got fixed


6 machines later and almost 7 YEARS
You still cant cut simple key??????????

You are absolutely right, "sirius" company...FIX F.... simply key cutting...what to say about VA2, VA6 etc...

kronk92
20th September, 2019, 11:39 AM
i struggled recently on a va2 for peugeot 107, the decode is wrong but i know this problem is old so input the bittings manually but it cutted it wrong, in the last updates it was cutting ok now no, i wasted so much time and blades, sadly you can't rely on these machines, one update it cuts good the next update no, it is a real mess

dedz
20th September, 2019, 04:04 PM
Hello nay news for cut megane 3 laguna 3 clii 4?


Envoyé de mon SM-G965F en utilisant Tapatalk

Weasel3
20th September, 2019, 05:36 PM
i struggled recently on a va2 for peugeot 107, the decode is wrong but i know this problem is old so input the bittings manually but it cutted it wrong, in the last updates it was cutting ok now no, i wasted so much time and blades, sadly you can't rely on these machines, one update it cuts good the next update no, it is a real mess

Yes this right. You need also a machine from a different brand, just to be sure to make the job. Updates sometimes good, sometimes not. But needs to keep reporting, so the bugs can be removed fast as possible.

dedz
20th September, 2019, 07:17 PM
i struggled recently on a va2 for peugeot 107, the decode is wrong but i know this problem is old so input the bittings manually but it cutted it wrong, in the last updates it was cutting ok now no, i wasted so much time and blades, sadly you can't rely on these machines, one update it cuts good the next update no, it is a real mess107 is va6

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ghostrider72
20th September, 2019, 07:34 PM
I dont think there is VA6 in condor

sdnatlst
20th September, 2019, 09:54 PM
Va2T on 107 up to 2013.

And I done one today. Decoded and cut perfectly.



Va6 decode by eye and enter manually on va2eh2 card.
I only see these on citroen DS and renaults in my day to day jobs really.

fabi
26th September, 2019, 04:49 PM
What changes in 6.0.1 firmware?

sleepyrz
27th September, 2019, 03:52 AM
so perry


no hope on the ym15???

its only been 6 years

bobbel
27th September, 2019, 12:24 PM
The DOLPHIN XP-005 key machine.
I can select on IC Cards ?
The same as Sec-E9 machine
Or does this work differently with this machine
regards Bert

auto techniek
27th September, 2019, 01:04 PM
Can someone decode this by eyes?654125

dmp
27th September, 2019, 01:10 PM
Can someone decode this by eyes?6541254545331132

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Weasel3
27th September, 2019, 01:11 PM
The DOLPHIN XP-005 key machine.
I can select on IC Cards ?
The same as Sec-E9 machine
Or does this work differently with this machine
regards Bert

7 post in 9 years. That's impressive :)
A real active member :)
You can download the app to your Android/Iphone and take a peak.

Weasel3
27th September, 2019, 01:15 PM
4545331132

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Yes, I think this is the right numbers.

bobbel
27th September, 2019, 01:48 PM
7 post in 9 years. That's impressive :)
A real active member :)
You can download the app to your Android/Iphone and take a peak.

Not new in BUSINESS.
Have rediscovered the forum.:peaceful:

Weasel3
1st October, 2019, 09:08 AM
Dolphin Hu64-3
1,5mm cutter.
Still NOT Ok

My money goes to the next vendor, who actually can make these without problems.
Not funny to be out in the field, to make these. And machine can not do the job.
But hey standard, A9 is not much better. Also failing.

autoTkey
1st October, 2019, 09:24 AM
I think Condors are better in this than Miracle.
I did a few without fail but used 2.5mm on Condor Mini. I heard they share the same database.
What was the problem in your situation?

Weasel3
1st October, 2019, 11:39 AM
I think Condors are better in this than Miracle.
I did a few without fail but used 2.5mm on Condor Mini. I heard they share the same database.
What was the problem in your situation?


Decodes right.
But cut a little bit wrong in the heights.

autoTkey
1st October, 2019, 02:15 PM
I decoded few of the older keys (HU64), so no problems there. Then took picture of the decoding and manually wrote the coding on HU64-3 and were no problems.

baddaren
2nd October, 2019, 10:19 PM
Hello guys. Decoded HU100 key today with Condor XC mini plus, sec e9 can not. Condor cut HU100 wrong, to wide track and to much to the left. Put in biting in sec e9, cut perfekt key, but can not decode.

djollie
7th October, 2019, 11:16 AM
is there a condor mini plus revision 2?

auto techniek
7th October, 2019, 12:25 PM
Can someone decode this key pls.

Is it hu133?

Suzuki Altohttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191007/2528d1f2d00d41744b888baa48a1c10c.jpg

gokart
7th October, 2019, 03:22 PM
Can someone decode this key pls.

Is it hu133?

Suzuki Alto

It's SZ11.

auto techniek
7th October, 2019, 03:37 PM
Can you decode by eye?

Weasel3
7th October, 2019, 06:23 PM
I think you got:

23231243

Buzztek
11th October, 2019, 11:44 AM
It's SZ11.I did a 2010 Suzuki alto today with condor, hu133r kd blade worked perfect.

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Weasel3
12th October, 2019, 05:29 PM
Dolph
Decode and cut HU64 old style blade: Result Success
Use bitting, and write into new style HU64-3: Result Success

This is the first time experienced that this actually works.
This has always failed in some way earlier.
Not sure if there was some update, which did the trick.

This door lock was in very good condition. It was working really smooth. Not adding any lubrication.

autoTkey
14th October, 2019, 06:05 AM
Aah, told it is OK. Did you use 2.5mm?

Weasel3
14th October, 2019, 08:24 AM
Aah, told it is OK. Did you use 2.5mm?
1,5mm which machine says is recommended.

auto techniek
14th October, 2019, 09:14 AM
2,5 mm is recommended if you cut hu64



1,5mm which machine says is recommended.

Weasel3
14th October, 2019, 12:58 PM
I think the App said. Recommended 1.5mm, when doing HU64. (Your machine is Condor XC mini plus? or Dolph?)
I changed it a while ago. Haven't changed it back since.
I do all the cutting with 1.5mm regardless blade of any brand.

autoTkey
14th October, 2019, 01:10 PM
In my experience 2.5mm is most versatile and suitable in most blades. Almost never used 1.5mm
Better to change it back.

iHenry3
14th October, 2019, 10:45 PM
When will condor update there Key machine and the key tool so that we can cut and create for single sided keys.

sleepyrz
15th October, 2019, 02:48 AM
never

ive been asking them for this for like a year or more

and people have been asking for 7 years i think

its almost useless trying to get them to make the condor any better

they dont have the capability

they must have lost a lot of their engineers or programmers that originally made the machine

now the bums that are left over have no clue how to make new stuff or fix old stuff

looks like kukai and the new alpha/triton are going to mop the floor with these clowns


right samic?
right perry?



they either:

1. dont understand how shit it looks
2. dont care
3. cant do anything about it as they dont have the skills



Hello guys. Decoded HU100 key today with Condor XC mini plus, sec e9 can not. Condor cut HU100 wrong, to wide track and to much to the left. Put in biting in sec e9, cut perfekt key, but can not decode.


yes they know people have been telling them this
i just made my own cutting profile so i dont have to wait for these assclowns to do some work





is there a condor mini plus revision 2?


yeap there is

weza247
15th October, 2019, 10:06 AM
I asked to adjust the bmw motorcycle cut from Asian cut to European cut months ago also no responce

sleepyrz
19th October, 2019, 07:02 PM
Yea they keep updating the dolphin as it is app based

I dont think they can fix the mini or mini plus

If they could it would have been done YEARS AGO

iHenry3
20th October, 2019, 12:38 AM
Wish the wood at least update the software. So we can try adding out own single side keys.

sleepyrz
22nd October, 2019, 02:50 AM
been asking for this as well for as long as it has been out

i dont think they still have engineer for this part

cniksor
22nd October, 2019, 07:55 AM
DOLPHIN ISSUES
database still giving incorrect key code for bmw . if i enter same key code on condor mini or instalive, i get correct key cut, if i enter on dolphin i get incorrect, i cannot trust using data base for dolphin

PerryZhang
24th October, 2019, 07:08 AM
DOLPHIN ISSUES
database still giving incorrect key code for bmw . if i enter same key code on condor mini or instalive, i get correct key cut, if i enter on dolphin i get incorrect, i cannot trust using data base for dolphin
the database between those 2 machines are the same , what is the database version of dolphin ?

sleepyrz
25th October, 2019, 05:25 AM
the database between those 2 machines are the same , what is the database version of dolphin ?

See told you

Hes completely ignoring anything with regular xc-mini
And only responds to dolphin

Weasel3
25th October, 2019, 05:19 PM
Dolph:
HU64-3 decode
and
cut HU64-3.
Result: Success.

Things are getting better.

cniksor
26th October, 2019, 07:46 AM
Dolphin is up to date. It’s never given the correct key cut code. I have to use istalive or condor. Will film video on the issue

auto techniek
26th October, 2019, 07:07 PM
Can someone decode by eye?

Is it 8-9 or 10 cut? https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191026/c92003028cdc86de71cbd9b423f6eb3f.jpg

PerryZhang
29th October, 2019, 08:41 AM
Dolphin is up to date. It’s never given the correct key cut code. I have to use istalive or condor. Will film video on the issue
which one you can not , can you add this skype : xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx . and send the video .

rob h
7th November, 2019, 02:21 PM
Jaguar Tibbe 8 cut key.
I can not cut the nr.2 angle.
There are 4 positions on the clamp, M3.
Nr2 angle should be 2000 value, clamp 2 pos, is 1100, and 3 2450.
Both are way off.
How does one solve this?
Cut using Ford angle 2 and file down? There should be a better way. 665090

kleidaras
7th November, 2019, 04:29 PM
on jaguar n2 is like n3 on ford

sdnatlst
9th November, 2019, 04:19 PM
1 month old dolphin and cutter is sized in socket

Any ideas before I return To my supplier?

rob h
9th November, 2019, 07:40 PM
You mean, it is stuck?
We can see, that it is broken.
What is the problem,

sdnatlst
10th November, 2019, 07:22 PM
Yes it's stuck
It can't be removed

smokey08
10th November, 2019, 07:31 PM
Yes it's stuck
It can't be removedMy old miracle a5 used to do that. Warm up the chuck with your hot air station and pull it out with some side cutters

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Weasel3
10th November, 2019, 11:10 PM
1 month old dolphin and cutter is sized in socket

Any ideas before I return To my supplier?

Is this some kind of vacuum problem? :) Maybe you can remove the small screw.

cniksor
11th November, 2019, 04:15 AM
Here is video showing incorrect database for DOLPHIN. this happen every time i try using database. dolphin is fully updated firmware and database and every time same issue here is a sample of same code on dolphin and condor mini...and original car key, which shows mini is correct code.

dolphin
https://vimeo.com/372280385

(https://vimeo.com/372280385)minihttps://vimeo.com/372280376

photo of correct/original key
665940

cniksor
11th November, 2019, 04:16 AM
UPDATE:
i finally figured out the issue. xhorse support helped

now the issue. on condor mini i can input ha00038828 and i get correct code. i always enter full code on condor mini and never any issues.

BUT on dolphin you dont enter full code, only 4 digits of the sample that is highlighted. in this case 3882, which then gave me the correct cut code.

bit strange that it works on condor mini this way but not on dolphin, either way, in case anyone else is having issues, hope this post help. and thank you xhorse for support once i provided videos.

sleepyrz
11th November, 2019, 09:56 AM
two pairs of pliers and some heat on outer collar

trinicolin
12th November, 2019, 09:14 PM
Can all the keys cut by this machine and saved on the internal memory be saved on and external?

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PerryZhang
13th November, 2019, 03:27 AM
internal memory , yes , it can save to internal memory , but can not save on external memory . you can check the memory in history , it will show all keys you cut before,

sleepyrz
13th November, 2019, 11:31 PM
Can all the keys cut by this machine and saved on the internal memory be saved on and external?

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No it cannot

szengen
14th November, 2019, 08:00 AM
you can always set up monitoring in the store, proposed vhs systems,

zeh212
17th November, 2019, 10:11 PM
Hello to all.

does someone know how to cut va6 keys ? Like Renault Clio3 with condor mini.
i have never success to cut these keys even in akl nor for duplication..

thxw

auto techniek
18th November, 2019, 07:21 PM
which key blade code this is? Renault laguna 2

PerryZhang
19th November, 2019, 07:37 AM
try va2eh2 , this blade ,

PerryZhang
19th November, 2019, 07:38 AM
Hello to all.

does someone know how to cut va6 keys ? Like Renault Clio3 with condor mini.
i have never success to cut these keys even in akl nor for duplication..

thxw

va2eh2 is not working for you ? how about universal key decode ?

Alpaholic
19th November, 2019, 09:22 AM
I have also problems with va2 and hu56, not working correkt.

auto techniek
19th November, 2019, 09:36 AM
I have also problems with va2 and hu56, not working correkt.Support@ are you going to fix this.

Same issue can t do va2 keys

auto techniek
19th November, 2019, 02:03 PM
..............

sleepyrz
20th November, 2019, 08:50 PM
problem with ym15
problem with many keys

auto techniek
21st November, 2019, 04:46 PM
Yes many problems with many keys and the solution was:

They came with new product Dolphin instead of solving old problems

Alpaholic
21st November, 2019, 07:36 PM
@xHorse SUPPORT.

I have the new dolphin. Can you fix the problems with HU56 and VA2????

PerryZhang
22nd November, 2019, 03:20 AM
yes ,the va2eh2 , right now it has 3 options , 2 potions for 6 bits , and 1 option for 8 bits , pls try it to see if work ,and the rest issue , xhorse are working on that

nyandacca
22nd November, 2019, 09:28 AM
On XC-mini plus, New key profiles I added has gone.
I synchronized again via customize tool, "send success", but still doesn't exist.
Does anyone solved this problem?

Alpaholic
22nd November, 2019, 12:00 PM
yes ,the va2eh2 , right now it has 3 options , 2 potions for 6 bits , and 1 option for 8 bits , pls try it to see if work ,and the rest issue , xhorse are working on that

Here i cut a va2 with 1,5mm, you can see in the middle of the track there is no cutting.

669060

Alpaholic
22nd November, 2019, 12:05 PM
yes ,the va2eh2 , right now it has 3 options , 2 potions for 6 bits , and 1 option for 8 bits , pls try it to see if work ,and the rest issue , xhorse are working on that

Here i cut a HU56... the cutter cuts in my clamp and not the key. Its to much on the right aligned.

669061

gokart
23rd November, 2019, 10:59 PM
@xHorse SUPPORT.

I have the new dolphin. Can you fix the problems with HU56 and VA2????

HU56 is OK on KM03.

gokart
23rd November, 2019, 11:02 PM
Here i cut a va2 with 1,5mm, you can see in the middle of the track there is no cutting.

669060

Do you have only 1.5 mm cutter?

PerryZhang
25th November, 2019, 07:17 AM
Here i cut a va2 with 1,5mm, you can see in the middle of the track there is no cutting.

669060

have you try with the 2.5 mm cutter , also update to the last version of that device

PerryZhang
25th November, 2019, 07:18 AM
On XC-mini plus, New key profiles I added has gone.
I synchronized again via customize tool, "send success", but still doesn't exist.
Does anyone solved this problem?

try to clean all history ,and try it again , also remember where option you save it for ,

autoTkey
25th November, 2019, 07:40 AM
1.5mm is used very rarely. Most keys are best cut with 2.5mm. So use 2.5mm and most problems go away.

sdnatlst
25th November, 2019, 06:09 PM
I thought all edge cut keys needed 1.5mm ?

Internal track keys use 2.5mm

auto techniek
25th November, 2019, 06:16 PM
Hi

Can someone decode pls.chevrolet spark. I think DWO4 blade.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20191125/46e588cca57abc20dd885b95346d073e.jpg

sleepyrz
26th November, 2019, 06:43 PM
it doesn't matter at all you can use whatever cutter you want i was using the 2.5 mm cutter for everything for years and all the keys work just fine I switched over to the 2mm cutter though and the keys are a little smoother entering and leaving the lock now

I cut every single key with a 2 mm cutter now

sdnatlst
26th November, 2019, 08:08 PM
hahaa i have been switching blade every time i go from channel track to side cut profile blades,,, thanks for letting me know, save me some time

Alpaholic
26th November, 2019, 08:52 PM
HU56 is OK on KM03.

What is KM03?

Alpaholic
26th November, 2019, 08:55 PM
1.5mm is used very rarely. Most keys are best cut with 2.5mm. So use 2.5mm and most poblems go away.

Whith hu64 it says often times use 1,5.... and you can always use 1.5 with hu66 and others without problems.... A colleague alsway use 1.5.

autoTkey
27th November, 2019, 07:37 AM
Whith hu64 it says often times use 1,5.... and you can always use 1.5 with hu66 and others without problems.... A colleague alsway use 1.5.

No, it just shows you what cutter you have set in settings. 1.5 is needed only on very few keys. Machine gives specific warning when this is the case. Use 2.5 or 2 as suggested here in the forum for best results. I always use 2.5 and key works like it has been a part of the lock :) - no tension or any sign of excessive friction.

sleepyrz
27th November, 2019, 04:56 PM
I noticed on some close spacing edge cuts like toyota 10 cut or nissan 10 cut its a little too steep the cuts and with 2mm it goes in and comes out smoother

don't get me wrong 2.5mm still works fine and turn the lock perfectly but entering and leaving the lock is just a wee bit smoother with 2mm

den5
29th November, 2019, 05:08 PM
Hi guys. need help. I need to make a key blade pattern from the key code on hyunday tucson 2016 usa. mechanical key code M2227. key blade HY22 or TOY40.
the ignition lock has 6 secrets. in PM. thanks

PerryZhang
2nd December, 2019, 07:46 AM
the new hyundai key ? that one , you can try this option , search 'Kia ' 'K5' 'After 2016 ' , that one it could work for this , 8 bits

sleepyrz
2nd December, 2019, 07:09 PM
Hi guys. need help. I need to make a key blade pattern from the key code on hyunday tucson 2016 usa. mechanical key code M2227. key blade HY22 or TOY40.
the ignition lock has 6 secrets. in PM. thanks

A223133
B223123. Tip this way

fytfh
5th December, 2019, 09:13 AM
hello i have oldsmobile cutlass 1982 with all key lost how to find biing code on door lock i have some code B2530 but i not find it in my condor can some one help me

nyandacca
5th December, 2019, 11:45 AM
Thank you PerryZhang, I already did as you said, problem solved.

sleepyrz
5th December, 2019, 03:08 PM
Well first you need to know what the hell you are doing

Second you need to buy yourself some reference materials like the Auto Smart books or the fast facts books

Theres no code on the door lock genius

You just wasted a lot of your time with this

Get the books and learn or continue wasting your time

Your choice.......

djollie
13th December, 2019, 12:03 AM
can condor mini plus cut 2014 Toyota verso flip key...i think blade is va2?
i have been given this code - 1DRB3
not sure how to cut it/decode
thanks

jodge
13th December, 2019, 09:51 PM
can condor mini plus cut 2014 Toyota verso flip key...i think blade is va2?
i have been given this code - 1DRB3
not sure how to cut it/decode
thanks


it's VA8 read back there will be a custom key file

os2quentes
14th December, 2019, 06:58 AM
Hello guys... I was wondering if any of you know you to properly use this function of the machine. The machine decodes pretty good most of the time. Some honda 4 track are not as smooth. and I really want use this function to check if it helps.

674895

glk96000
14th December, 2019, 10:55 AM
Hi,
anyone have feedback about xhorse condor XP-007 manual key cutting?

klesk1986
14th December, 2019, 11:06 AM
Hi,
anyone have feedback about xhorse condor XP-007 manual key cutting?

We got 2 this type machines from 1, maybe 2 years and it do the job. For this money it is excellent choice.

rob h
14th December, 2019, 08:07 PM
How is the battery life of your Dolphin?

Mine drops quick, and is only 2 weeks old.

Xhorse states: It can cut 20 HU66 key blanks front and back, off of one battery pack.

jodge
15th December, 2019, 10:56 AM
Hi,
anyone have feedback about xhorse condor XP-007 manual key cutting?

i have one and i like it
the orig clamp a little bit weird only two pre defined cutting speeds are availeble but besides are all ok so far

K1nd3r
15th December, 2019, 11:54 PM
to not read 100 pages, condor mini plus worth to buy?

PerryZhang
16th December, 2019, 04:40 AM
How is the battery life of your Dolphin?

Mine drops quick, and is only 2 weeks old.

Xhorse states: It can cut 20 HU66 key blanks front and back, off of one battery pack.
your battery could be has issue , how long time it will keep ? add my skype what is in my profile , i can check it for you

PerryZhang
16th December, 2019, 04:41 AM
Hello guys... I was wondering if any of you know you to properly use this function of the machine. The machine decodes pretty good most of the time. Some honda 4 track are not as smooth. and I really want use this function to check if it helps.

674895
you can do all calibration , and see if cut ok

sleepyrz
16th December, 2019, 07:04 AM
Hey perry ym15 ever get fixed so it doesnt cut off the tip of the key?

gokart
17th December, 2019, 01:30 PM
Hey perry ym15 ever get fixed so it doesnt cut off the tip of the key?

and GT15...?

PerryZhang
18th December, 2019, 04:04 AM
that problem , passed to our rd team since long ago, i was been told that it is ok , but in here i dont have key for try ,

sleepyrz
18th December, 2019, 03:37 PM
Ok......
Ill let you know my level of disappointment after i update

jodge
18th December, 2019, 06:36 PM
that problem , passed to our rd team since long ago, i was been told that it is ok , but in here i dont have key for try ,

Would so be so nice and tell us the truth? Not this BS? I mean you don't have mercedes and fiat keys? Seriously?
Thank you

PerryZhang
19th December, 2019, 03:17 AM
mercedes and fiat keys , hu64 and sip22 , both fine ,that no has problem

sleepyrz
19th December, 2019, 04:21 AM
mercedes and fiat keys , hu64 and sip22 , both fine ,that no has problem


he meant the mercedes ym15 or mb17

or the fiat gt15


those are the mercedes and fiats with problems