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sdnatlst
12th June, 2019, 08:49 PM
I had a spare key job today, 2006 polo 9N3 model.

I tried with FVDI, Wizard - It autodetected CS & PIN, precoded a dealer key, but when it went to key learn, it would only learn the customers original key. So immo light kept flashing.
When i went through again, and put 1 key required, it learnt his key and immo light went out.


I tried it a couple of times, so locked a couple of ID48's. Im sure i also tried a blank unlocked ID48, not precoded.


So just wondering, does it need CS prepared key on these 9n3 polo's or not? , I finished job by cloning in the end but would like to know for future.

I also have VVDI2 but i wasnt sure if this would work on old system like this polo has?

mlodywafel
12th June, 2019, 09:14 PM
No just reed pin an do it with blanc transponer


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Matronix
12th June, 2019, 09:53 PM
Had this same issue with Polo , tried several chips, blank 48, can version, EM4701, etc. and all in a sudden got a chip that did the job. No idea what the difference was , but the 1-2 issue on the instrument screen and the SAFE are gone and have 2 good keys now. Would love to know what was the trick since I had a caddy 2009 a while ago with same issue and that one has not been done (could not clone at the time, should be better covered now).

ghostrider72
12th June, 2019, 09:55 PM
Caddy need precoding. Different than Polo 9N

sdnatlst
12th June, 2019, 10:18 PM
Very strange, im sure i tried KEY LEARN and just tried an unlocked blank 48 chip and still no luck. I guess ill try to clone these generation polo in future unless its all keys lost and im forced to try and add a TP

p1et
13th June, 2019, 08:19 AM
I use SBB for programming Polo 9N and never had problems

qeso705
13th June, 2019, 01:20 PM
From my experience it is worse to have it with correct CS data precoded. Take into consideration that there is no TP2x transponder. When you have car still with you send me e2 and i make trick that will accept any id48.

super jumbe
13th June, 2019, 08:35 PM
Why go through all that hassal when you could have clone the ID48 chip and away you go....

p1et
13th June, 2019, 08:39 PM
Why go through all that hassal when you could have clone the ID48 chip and away you go....

To have more knowledge and experience. By cloning you gaining no experience. If you clone then OK but next time all keys lost and we will see you asking here for help... Every monkey can clone.

sdnatlst
13th June, 2019, 09:13 PM
I had an Audi A4 earlier that day, which i do clone because i know they can be a nightmare programming wise,

And i had left no points on my Keytool, so i wanted to learn it :)

godfathertre
14th June, 2019, 12:10 AM
why waste time for later vag cloning safer faster and away to next job it amazes me wasting hours pulling pin codes when cloning 5 minutes top .

klauss78
14th June, 2019, 02:33 PM
I had a sister of Polo, Ibiza 2003 1,4 diesel.

Same issue. 2 transponders one by one works great, both programmed didn t.

rapidlocksmiths
14th June, 2019, 03:22 PM
2006 on polo is a cross over year could be T6 id48 or it may have needed TP23 id48 canbus , so if left flashing it may be because you needed a canbus chip

also depends on whether your using original chips or aftermarket , alot of the aftermarket chips get rejected by the system , yet will work on another one .

sometimes with polo you have to wait for 30 mins with ignition on after pulling pin to code key in.

abrites has always had issues leaving immo light flashing on alot of vag , so i assume the snide fvdi has same issue as a poor copy of it , other kit saves the day when you have the pin code . the more options you have to use the better as one succeeds where others fail and vice versa .

qeso705
14th June, 2019, 09:33 PM
2006 on polo is a cross over year could be T6 id48 or it may have needed TP23 id48 canbus , so if left flashing it may be because you needed a canbus chip

also depends on whether your using original chips or aftermarket , alot of the aftermarket chips get rejected by the system , yet will work on another one .

sometimes with polo you have to wait for 30 mins with ignition on after pulling pin to code key in.

abrites has always had issues leaving immo light flashing on alot of vag , so i assume the snide fvdi has same issue as a poor copy of it , other kit saves the day when you have the pin code . the more options you have to use the better as one succeeds where others fail and vice versa .

On k-line cars was never used tp23 beside beetle and crafter at my knowledge. With proper tools live is much easier.

nazz2
14th June, 2019, 09:54 PM
If i may add,my personal experience with 3 x 9N 2006 polo's , always have been the same, some T6 chip, which failed with avdi and ad100, worked with vcds with ignition on for 15 minutes @ first.

klauss78
26th June, 2019, 05:59 PM
On k-line cars was never used tp23 beside beetle and crafter at my knowledge. With proper tools live is much easier.

Programmed 1 key. After few days and an over 1 hour driving trip problem solved. Same 2 transponders learned fast.

pizz
28th November, 2019, 10:39 AM
i need Pin code for VW Polo 06 immo 93C86 to match new ecu and original key set.

demotep3
28th November, 2019, 06:33 PM
FVDI Seems to fail to program these quite regularly for me on the early VAG stuff, I use FVDI to read pin code, no need to pre-code on that year, then i program with Auto-logic or zed full

34HASS
1st December, 2019, 01:35 PM
Hello,
I also clone id48 because Abrites works very badly for this model of that year.
On the other hand, telecommand programming works.
If not you can do an immo off by obd.

34HASS
1st December, 2019, 01:37 PM
Hi, send me you file .bin, I will give you the pin code, thank you

Mario6
2nd December, 2019, 11:33 AM
Hi.
I recently programmed two keys for the VW Polo 1.4 Tdi 2008. (all keys lost) I read the PIN immo from the instrument cluster (VDO) and programmed the keys using vag k can commander 1.4 / 2.5. I had two new ID 48 transponders. I used the vag kkl interface.

TERMINATOR1000
2nd December, 2019, 12:07 PM
Hello , what is the better key cloner tool to this old cars id48 ? ... no token , no risk to kill genuine customer key & no online calculation ?
Some old VW cars are difficult to add keys , Polo 4 ( ibiza ) , Golf 5 ( Caddy ) > 2007 !!! read PIN is OK , but programming failed or immo light flashing after learning process ...

newone
2nd December, 2019, 02:36 PM
i have rw4 and from when clone id48 it payed well all this years,no problem at all,but i do not see worth to buy it now... maybe if you find used one at a good price
minus also the online calculation