is it possible to stream to xbox?

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  • godsakes
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 31

    #1

    is it possible to stream to xbox?

    hi all

    i'm new to all these custom cable boxes, but i noticed there are various plugins to stream from a dreambox to a PC

    i was wondering if it was possible to stream to a softmodded xbox (i use XBMC)?
  • caveman_nige
    V.I.P. Member
    • Feb 2008
    • 4920

    #2
    i have not found a plugin as yet, i can only stream recordings from the HDD on my 600 so far and from my NAS..

    I cannot find much info on the net about it so far but i see some guys have had it running for a number of years but there appears to be no function on the gui to change channels. Its appears that some file editing needs to be done on the XBMC... But it is gonna require more reading

    btw the xbmc build i have is 1.1.0 compiled May 2006.. been fine for years so I have left it at that level..
    Last edited by caveman_nige; 14 February, 2009, 01:37.

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    • godsakes
      Junior Member
      • Feb 2009
      • 31

      #3
      from my searches it looks like the script (or closest thing) is a 4yr old script - "DreamBox TV Script v0.39" but i cannot for the life of me find a working download link anywhere

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      • godsakes
        Junior Member
        • Feb 2009
        • 31

        #4
        this thread might help other people trying to stream to a xbox XBMC Tuxbox Enigma Stream Client (Enigma Based Dreambox & Dbox2) - XBMC Community Forum

        i've added the dreambox as a tuxbox source ( tuxbox://USER:PASSWORD@DREAMBOX_IP:PORT/) - once connected it loads up your bouquets and allows you to stream (image quality is improved since my xbox is hooked up by component cables)

        however currently it seems a tad unstable and tends to cut out after a few min. I'm under the impression you're supposed to edit the xbox AdvancedSettings.xml (in userdata). anyone got this method working smoothly??

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        • alexh
          Top Poster +
          • Feb 2009
          • 225

          #5
          Both XBMC and tuxbox sources are now stale for dreambox streaming (i.e. doesn't work out the box)

          Which version of XBMC are you using?
          Which Dreambox image are you using?

          It never worked well on DM500 for the (supposedly) the same reasons you cannot record well over SAMBA with DM500

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          • caveman_nige
            V.I.P. Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 4920

            #6
            my xbmc build i have is 1.1.0 compiled May 2006 and my DM600 is running on the trusty Pli Iolite image. I am also looking into this, I can view the recordings on the HDD in the DM at the mo but am not streaming so far. I note from places on the net that people have managed it though.

            Have considered updating my xbmc to the new atlantis image and maybe my Dm to the Jade but am waiting for more positive news or for time for so that can do more reading on this myself.

            Do you stream from dm to xbmc?
            Last edited by caveman_nige; 24 February, 2009, 12:47.

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            • alexh
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              • Feb 2009
              • 225

              #7
              Originally posted by caveman_nige
              Do you stream from dm to xbmc?
              I have in the past. I used DW2.0 and a pre-atlantis XBMC. I got it to work (with help from Devilfish) but gave up pretty quickly as the stream full of errors (using a DM500C).

              I was sure it was a software thing but everyone kept saying it was a hardware thing.

              Someone made an IMAGE for the DM where you could switch off the video decoder. This greatly improved streaming quality both via SAMBA and to the xbox (forgotton the protocol it uses, the one before zapstream??) but it was not great.

              Several people suggested the problems were to do with an underpowered SD (Transport Stream Demultiplexer) in the DM's chip but I think it was more likely due to a drop in SDRAM bandwidth usage that came with switching off the decoder.

              I still say it is a software bug... somewhere.

              All reports are that the DM500+ and DM600 do not suffer from problems streaming.
              Last edited by alexh; 24 February, 2009, 13:37.

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              • caveman_nige
                V.I.P. Member
                • Feb 2008
                • 4920

                #8
                well I my dm600 streams smoothly (when VLC decides the blue moon is out). I agree in that its a software issue.. OnedayI will look into it more but at the moment i need more in depth knowledge on this area and way more time...

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                • dreadfand

                  #9
                  i have my dm500 hooked up to my pc via tv capture card and stream to my xbox over lan using a program called tversiity works great no blocky picture and tversity uses its own software to trans-encode the stream on the fly so no problems with file formats.

                  dreadfand

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                  • alexh
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                    • Feb 2009
                    • 225

                    #10
                    576i @50Hz composite (SVideo at best) via a TV capture card must be shockingly bad quality compared to sending the compressed transport stream

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                    • caveman_nige
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Feb 2008
                      • 4920

                      #11
                      Thanks, an interesting way round and I can see its logic...

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                      • dreadfand

                        #12
                        Originally posted by alexh
                        576i @50Hz composite (SVideo at best) via a TV capture card must be shockingly bad quality compared to sending the compressed transport stream
                        No not at all, in fact its perfect quality..... Unless you have a way of sending the compressed stream direct from the dreambox to the xbox without problems?

                        Dreadfand

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                        • alexh
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                          • Feb 2009
                          • 225

                          #13
                          Originally posted by dreadfand
                          No not at all, in fact its perfect quality.....
                          Perfect quality?

                          It is widely known that the conversion to composite video eats the fine detail, not to mention adds colour artefacts.

                          When the source material is interlaced 9/10 windows based capture cards (or rather their associated software) either do not deinterlacing at all and just display one field, effectively halving the vertical resolution, or screw up the de-interlacing and introduce interfield motion.

                          I am not knocking the technique (although how do you change channels?), and you are right at the moment their is no alternative with a DM500 due to this bandwidth problem, its just users should realise this technique is not going to be great quality. Acceptable maybe.

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                          • dreadfand

                            #14
                            yeah i understand what your saying m8 but the quality is fine honestly it really isn't noticeable compared to other options.... channel changing is done through a 3rd party party tool i wrote myself (very simple virtual remote works over lan) nothing to do with the actual stream......i'd be happy 2 share if your interested

                            dreadfand

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                            • godsakes
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 31

                              #15
                              Originally posted by dreadfand
                              i have my dm500 hooked up to my pc via tv capture card and stream to my xbox over lan using a program called tversiity works great no blocky picture and tversity uses its own software to trans-encode the stream on the fly so no problems with file formats.
                              it's a clever work around but streaming to pc seems okay on the DM500c... i could probably then use the pc to en-code it to the xbox. Skipping the need for a TV card (in any case i don't really have the space for a PC near my TV).

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