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  • hotbaws11
    Member
    • Jul 2008
    • 59

    #16
    Originally posted by red devil
    DONT mess wit ur subbed card
    get an ex subbed rom 10 or 11 and btw wat area u in

    maybe we can keep all the chat about this in this thread as there is another one as well
    Yeah I'd intended to keep it to one thread but i got a scare when I came across this one so wanted to ask. I'll leave the other thread.

    Can you clarify a couple of things for me?

    1) Have I did any damage already to my subbed card? I have plugged it in to the dreambox but couldn't get it working probably due to not entering the boxkey.

    2) What damage can you do to your subbed card if you are just using it to view the enrypted channels?

    Cheers. TW Lanarkshire BTW

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    • Donnie Darko
      V.I.P. Member
      • May 2008
      • 442

      #17
      Probably no damage done,you cant just put your card in and expect encryted channels to clear.
      General set up will require boxkey/ird for starters.
      Checkout the RED stickies massive amount of info and effort been put into them.

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      • hotbaws11
        Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 59

        #18
        Originally posted by Donnie Darko
        Probably no damage done,you cant just put your card in and expect encryted channels to clear.
        General set up will require boxkey/ird for starters.
        The only thing I didn't do was the boxkey thing. I already installed various cams with CS and had them configured.

        So if I did get the box key setup and view the encrypted channels, what would actually happen on the card? what data would be written?

        I've always had in the back of my mind that cable as we know it will come to an end and I just wanted to play with card sharing in the house to see how to go about it. If this did happen surely real subbed cards would be used on the dreambox?

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        • satman
          V.I.P. Member
          • Jun 2008
          • 736

          #19
          you get the boxkey from 'glitching' or unlooping the card.

          using the card in the dreambox is ok,
          its the unlocking part of the card to get the data to use card
          boom!

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          • 2tone
            V.I.P. Member
            • Jun 2008
            • 483

            #20
            if your going to use an n1 card you would be best using newcamd once you are able to get the dreambox to read the card you would then start to add othere box on your net work had this working for a while for a friend and was trying to see how many people i could get to read from the server but no one wanted to play so only had it working with 4 people for a while to see it run

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            • red devil
              DK Veteran
              • Oct 2008
              • 690

              #21
              Originally posted by hotbaws11
              The only thing I didn't do was the boxkey thing. I already installed various cams with CS and had them configured.

              So if I did get the box key setup and view the encrypted channels, what would actually happen on the card? what data would be written?

              I've always had in the back of my mind that cable as we know it will come to an end and I just wanted to play with card sharing in the house to see how to go about it. If this did happen surely real subbed cards would be used on the dreambox?
              ok u can ftp and know ur way around the box wit cams etc
              so 1st get a unlooped nag1 card and a cheap phoenix proggy and
              wen u have ur boxkey come back and we will help u get sorted

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              • digital-kaos
                Member
                • May 2009
                • 43

                #22
                What is the Bxkey and IRD and what do you do with this once eyouve got it from the card?

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                • digital-kaos
                  Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 43

                  #23
                  Hi Red Devil.
                  Could you explain the step by step of getting a fun card to work on a dm500?
                  Im aware you might tell me to just ftp etc, but would be nice to get it goin with a card (thats the card ive got spare anwyay). My reason for this is ive already got the cas 3 and one wanted to experiment with this and second Its easier to just to program a card rather than disconnecting my setup if it scrambles....

                  thanks

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                  • red devil
                    DK Veteran
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 690

                    #24
                    fun card...not yet m8, had some issues wit that i havent sorted yet but if read this thread from the start it tells exactly how to do it, to do this u need to be able to glitch and programme a nagra1 card and also flash and ftp to ur dreambox that is the first step, wen u can do that we can help u.

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                    • digital-kaos
                      Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 43

                      #25
                      When you say Nagra 1 card are you talking about the NTL Subscriber cards?

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                      • 2tone
                        V.I.P. Member
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 483

                        #26
                        Originally posted by digital-kaos
                        When you say Nagra 1 card are you talking about the NTL Subscriber cards?
                        yes if your in the uk your card will be on the nagra 1 system also you will need to see what rev the card is if you dont have a glicher you will need to get one or maby you might be able to get an open rom card of a site and maby just maby some one on here might pm you a bk to put in it long shot but save you having to open your own card

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                        • digital-kaos
                          Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 43

                          #27
                          Whats a glitcher?
                          and why do I need a bk? I was only planning to use it on my dm500.
                          Also I have nagra nagraedit 5.2, there is an option on there to unlock the card but it keeps asking for a password, a hex key???

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                          • red devil
                            DK Veteran
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 690

                            #28
                            Originally posted by digital-kaos
                            Whats a glitcher?
                            and why do I need a bk? I was only planning to use it on my dm500.
                            Also I have nagra nagraedit 5.2, there is an option on there to unlock the card but it keeps asking for a password, a hex key???
                            a glitcher or unlooper unlocks the card, google powersync, t911 or dual unlooper
                            the bk ie box key is needed for newcamd to read the card ie decrypt chanells, and nagra edit 4.1 is wat u need, the unlock option in nag edit is for cards that have been unlooped or unlocked and then had backdoor password changed to prevent someone else from reading the card

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                            • j911
                              Newbie
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 12

                              #29
                              hi, rather than start a new thread thought i'd ask for some answers here, so i have the ird and bk, and card is recognised by newcs, what do i put in newcs.xml as boxkey the ird or bk from card?

                              and in which format for ird forwards like 12XXXXXX or XXXXXX12?

                              many thanks

                              reason im doing this is i have a azboxhd with a sat and cable tuner and dont want to keep switching between softcams

                              TIA

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                              • red devil
                                DK Veteran
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 690

                                #30
                                Originally posted by j911
                                hi, rather than start a new thread thought i'd ask for some answers here, so i have the ird and bk, and card is recognised by newcs, what do i put in newcs.xml as boxkey the ird or bk from card?

                                and in which format for ird forwards like 12XXXXXX or XXXXXX12?

                                many thanks

                                reason im doing this is i have a azboxhd with a sat and cable tuner and dont want to keep switching between softcams

                                TIA
                                Hi
                                ive not done it with newcs but works perfect with newcamd6.10b and enter your bk in the cardserv config file see below

                                # Boxkey (for Nagra1 cards only) (L)
                                # 8 byte des boxkey of your nagra smartcard. This boxkey is needed for proper
                                # use of your card, otherwise you'll get incorrect control words
                                # BOXKEY = 11 22 33 44 55 66 77 88

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