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  • gingerninja
    Top Poster
    • Sep 2008
    • 168

    #46
    i have just joined new forum whom suggests their might be one already but this is way above my head and will keep posted as there is some debate as to if is or not.No they say it is a work around but i dont understand it maybe someone else does
    Nagravision 3 Work Around Released Today!!

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    THIS IS ONLY A RUMOR UNTIL CONFIRMED!


    Nagravision 3 Work Around Released Today!!
    c&p from paramount 10/5/08

    nagravision 3 work around released today!!

    this is worth a front page mention, and it is good news for the entire satellite community for the years to come. nfusion has released a work around for the nagravision 3 encryption system in use by bev for nfl sunday ticket. as of right now, nfusion users can view nfl sunday ticket while plugged into the internet with their nfusion. expect neosat and other iks receivers to have similar work arounds available in the near future.

    i am told this was accomplished by nfusion using a subscribed bev smart card in one of their servers, which than lends the encryption code to any nfusion connected to that server. let me stress, this is not a hack, this is a very simple work around, which i believe will have bev on it's toes scrambling to patch without any decent recourse for the next few days. in essence, they will have to find out which exact nagra 3 smart card is being used in order to patch this hole in their system. they will need the exact number of that card. whether that is obtainable through connection to the nfusion server, by bev, is unknown at this time. if it is, do not expect this to last very long. if they are unable to find out the smart card number, they will have to determine, which of the thousands deployed right now it is, and specifically shut down that card through the stream.

    this is good news. as most of us know, nagravision 2 was not fully hacked until the final days of the scaling back of nagravision 1. first we saw carded hacks for the weak rom101, than emulation hacks for dvb cards and hours after, hacks for all makes of fta receivers. i will stress again, this is not a hack, but a step in the right direction, which can better help the coders understand the workings of nagravision 3. we will not need a real hack anytime soon, so to see this so early is promising. it will be interesting to watch how long it takes bev to close this loophole, if they can at all, permanently. it will be much harder for dish network to close a loophole like this when they have to pick the card out of the 14 million nagra 3 cards they will have in deployment by the time they have finished their swapout. even if they can find the card, they will never be able to permanently patch it if that was their only recourse, as nfusion will just switch cards, starting the process over again. dish network will need to lobby hard to have receivers with ethernet ports made illegal to import. even at that, they will not be able to stop dealers from selling ethernet ports separately from fta receivers, as there is nothing illegal about an ethernet port with a usb adapter. the game only gets more interesting as time goes on!
    Last edited by gingerninja; 11 December, 2008, 17:59.

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    • kr4sh
      Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 55

      #47
      Originally posted by gingerninja
      i have just joined new forum whom suggests their might be one already but this is way above my head and will keep posted as there is some debate as to if is or not.
      please do keep us updated! :-)

      maby make a new thread about N3?

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      • jfish
        DK Veteran
        • Sep 2008
        • 799

        #48
        Originally posted by kr4sh
        Is it possible that since N3 will be in ireland that someone there will start working to crack it? possibly in time for its release else where?
        N3 has been available in Europe and USA and if they havent managed to crack it whats the chance of someone in Ireland doing so.

        accept the fact that once N3 comes out, the box;s will become glorified FTA ones.

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        • gingerninja
          Top Poster
          • Sep 2008
          • 168

          #49
          thats a cracker! jfish

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          • red devil
            DK Veteran
            • Oct 2008
            • 690

            #50
            Hi guys, its definate that chor*s ntl are testing n3, but most of the country is on n1 and some of the cable areas are n2 but its still not confirmed wat dere gonna do a mate of mine seems to think dat they wil go n3 for cable and n2 for terrestrial can anyone in the loop confirm if the current terrestrial boxes can take n2

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            • .: JaCkPoT :.
              Retired Sat TV Addict
              • Aug 2008
              • 5607

              #51
              Noone in the uk will hack n3..the best hackers in the world are trying to get premiere back and are struggling so what will make them try cable if they cant even view it.. There as tonnes more sat packages out there encrypted in n3...nevermind cable..

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              • Monty31ot
                Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 80

                #52
                I have asked around on the sat forums and it seems it not straight forward when card sharing with nagra3. You need to know the boxkey and the RSA key for a start.

                Enjoy it while it lasts. We had a good run especially those who have been watching for the last five years when the hack originated !

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                • jfish
                  DK Veteran
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 799

                  #53
                  Originally posted by Monty31ot
                  I have asked around on the sat forums and it seems it not straight forward when card sharing with nagra3. You need to know the boxkey and the RSA key for a start.

                  Enjoy it while it lasts. We had a good run especially those who have been watching for the last five years when the hack originated !
                  is the RSA key similiar to the one you get for accessing system using them keyfobs with the digits changing every minute.

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                  • cowplain35
                    Top Poster
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 138

                    #54
                    N3 will be cracked,not that i know anything about it,it just will be,like all the others.

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                    • .: JaCkPoT :.
                      Retired Sat TV Addict
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 5607

                      #55
                      It may already be cracked but maybe the hackers are waiting for digitv to goto n3 first.

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                      Openbox S10
                      TM500
                      DM500s
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                      Maxx 110cm Dish
                      Technomate 2300 Motors

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                      • Celtictiger
                        Top Poster
                        • Apr 2008
                        • 119

                        #56
                        just came across this on a like minded site...thought it was worth posting here....alot of it is way over my head but justs ad fuel to the romours that Nagra3 encryption is not that far away from being breached.....we live in hope...

                        Nagra 3 cards hacked confirmed
                        TV Cabo Nagravision = 3 = Rom140
                        D = Rom 180

                        TV Cabo Dreambox Nagravision 3:
                        Prov ID: 005644
                        Prov Key: 00
                        HEX Index ****: 978496B1C753425C5A45B04F1 F549407

                        The Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer. In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of Atmel

                        It has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBox

                        and already there for that bin deco in europe! ... at last!

                        and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diablo team pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of Nagravision

                        Quote:
                        ************************************************** ***************
                        ** DiabloCam - Stealth 2.22 - for Wireless DiabloCam and Light **
                        ** By Stealth Team - Independent Development Team **
                        ** Polska Nizalezna rump Deweloperska **
                        ************************************************** ***************

                        ****** What's New? *****

                        * AU
                        ****** AU
                        ****** AU

                        Minor important bug fixed

                        >> BIG BOMB COMING, stay tuned <<

                        N3 - coming soon hacked - Stealth is the Best

                        -------------------------------------------------

                        Unlike atr the black to white card


                        Opening of COM1 was successful
                        ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
                        31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
                        ROM Revision: 142
                        EEPROM Revision: RevG01
                        Closing of COM1 was successful

                        com diferenci? to 110

                        Rom110
                        ATR: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 31 31 30 20 52 65 76 41 30 31 14

                        Rom142
                        ATR: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
                        Not if or when fizerem firm j? b *** moved to a 00 or 01 (est&atilde;o to move one time per week), coloquem com os 50 algarismos 888

                        Or Deco Farid AU is presented as novas ****

                        Disfrutem do Jardim

                        Estou to study for a solution to ***

                        At? Brief

                        CAID 1802

                        Provider F410

                        *** 00
                        52 85 24 54 61 7C 2D A9 AE FE EF 02 0E CC 61 57 FF 29 F1 67 B1 55 98 20 6D

                        *** 01
                        79 FF 49 4E D2 1F 17 BA 4C B4 2C 30 DC EA 9D 4E FC 38 F8 E1 BC 16 EC E1 2B

                        *** 02
                        FB 9A D8 AC C1 6D 00 5A 6E 76 81 BC AD F3 E7 4B DA 7C 2F 81 F8 AB AC BA 1E

                        *** 03
                        4E F4 2A 06 25 25 D2 9D 53 95 D8 E7 7E 42 A5 7E 8B D6 1C 25 46 4E 69 61 D6


                        meaning they are very close to give the final blow to trabuco nagra3

                        although this does not mean that when implemented for these sides, are going to break once and quit, that this entails a good time to study and work, but let us see that the software is somewhat vulnerable.

                        if setting in which this Posti said that the Spanish rom this something that the Portuguese better protected, which means that although we are Nagra three, the software codes have security, and some others algorritmos different components, and also we confirms that nobody can be testi the Nagra three in any receiver until this is not implemented
                        inform this so that users will not stop cojer Bob with some news from other sides who say a lot of nonsense

                        Code:

                        Good news, Nagra3 is already partly open Quote: A big Thank you to all equipment NanoXX The key update of K50 Spain is already partly open. Only this open. 1 st Channel 11038V 2 nd Channel 2 11038V 3 rd Channel 30 10876V Sports Channel 4 seventh 10876V 5 th Channel comedy 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 6 th Channel action 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 7 th events 11097V Channel 8 Channel 10876V Soccer Channel 9 DCine 11318V 10th Scifi 10818V 11st Fox 10818V 13rd Cartoon Network 10788V 14th BBC1 10818V 15th Nat. Geographic 10876V 16th Golf 10876V 17th Discovery 11038V 18th **** Madrid TV 11156V 19 Disney Channel 1 11318V Mallet or Rec and there are about 200 Greeting the hinni Holli


                        It is worth mentioning that the service provider denies it has been hacked in order is an info that is even RUMOR.

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                        • Celtictiger
                          Top Poster
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 119

                          #57
                          just came across this on a like minded site...thought it was worth posting here....alot of it is way over my head but justs ad fuel to the romours that Nagra3 encryption is not that far away from being breached.....we live in hope...

                          Nagra 3 cards hacked confirmed
                          TV Cabo Nagravision = 3 = Rom140
                          D = Rom 180

                          TV Cabo Dreambox Nagravision 3:
                          Prov ID: 005644
                          Prov Key: 00
                          HEX Index ****: 978496B1C753425C5A45B04F1 F549407

                          The Spanish ROM is something better protected the Portuguese. At least 142 had some reference to ST Microelectronics, and therefore could know the manufacturer. In the 180 Spanish do not have this track. Even so, the researcher thinks Luso (for the design of the contacts of the card, according to him identical to those of old known as Funcard, Titanium, etc.). This is a model of Atmel

                          It has already been read in various forums, and according to reports from research groups Portuguese TV has been hacked out for DreamBox

                          and already there for that bin deco in europe! ... at last!

                          and in the last firm to the Devil pcmcia cam put that in the short diablo team pulled solutions for new rom NAGRA3 of Nagravision

                          Quote:
                          ************************************************** ***************
                          ** DiabloCam - Stealth 2.22 - for Wireless DiabloCam and Light **
                          ** By Stealth Team - Independent Development Team **
                          ** Polska Nizalezna rump Deweloperska **
                          ************************************************** ***************

                          ****** What's New? *****

                          * AU
                          ****** AU
                          ****** AU

                          Minor important bug fixed

                          >> BIG BOMB COMING, stay tuned <<

                          N3 - coming soon hacked - Stealth is the Best

                          -------------------------------------------------

                          Unlike atr the black to white card


                          Opening of COM1 was successful
                          ATR String: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50
                          31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
                          ROM Revision: 142
                          EEPROM Revision: RevG01
                          Closing of COM1 was successful

                          com diferenci? to 110

                          Rom110
                          ATR: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 31 31 30 20 52 65 76 41 30 31 14

                          Rom142
                          ATR: 3F FF 95 00 FF 91 81 71 FE 47 00 44 4E 41 53 50 31 34 32 20 52 65 76 47 30 31 15
                          Not if or when fizerem firm j? b *** moved to a 00 or 01 (est&atilde;o to move one time per week), coloquem com os 50 algarismos 888

                          Or Deco Farid AU is presented as novas ****

                          Disfrutem do Jardim

                          Estou to study for a solution to ***

                          At? Brief

                          CAID 1802

                          Provider F410

                          *** 00
                          52 85 24 54 61 7C 2D A9 AE FE EF 02 0E CC 61 57 FF 29 F1 67 B1 55 98 20 6D

                          *** 01
                          79 FF 49 4E D2 1F 17 BA 4C B4 2C 30 DC EA 9D 4E FC 38 F8 E1 BC 16 EC E1 2B

                          *** 02
                          FB 9A D8 AC C1 6D 00 5A 6E 76 81 BC AD F3 E7 4B DA 7C 2F 81 F8 AB AC BA 1E

                          *** 03
                          4E F4 2A 06 25 25 D2 9D 53 95 D8 E7 7E 42 A5 7E 8B D6 1C 25 46 4E 69 61 D6


                          meaning they are very close to give the final blow to trabuco nagra3

                          although this does not mean that when implemented for these sides, are going to break once and quit, that this entails a good time to study and work, but let us see that the software is somewhat vulnerable.

                          if setting in which this Posti said that the Spanish rom this something that the Portuguese better protected, which means that although we are Nagra three, the software codes have security, and some others algorritmos different components, and also we confirms that nobody can be testi the Nagra three in any receiver until this is not implemented
                          inform this so that users will not stop cojer Bob with some news from other sides who say a lot of nonsense

                          Code:

                          Good news, Nagra3 is already partly open Quote: A big Thank you to all equipment NanoXX The key update of K50 Spain is already partly open. Only this open. 1 st Channel 11038V 2 nd Channel 2 11038V 3 rd Channel 30 10876V Sports Channel 4 seventh 10876V 5 th Channel comedy 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 6 th Channel action 10788V -> 10818 or 11318? (No. 10788V Channel) 7 th events 11097V Channel 8 Channel 10876V Soccer Channel 9 DCine 11318V 10th Scifi 10818V 11st Fox 10818V 13rd Cartoon Network 10788V 14th BBC1 10818V 15th Nat. Geographic 10876V 16th Golf 10876V 17th Discovery 11038V 18th **** Madrid TV 11156V 19 Disney Channel 1 11318V Mallet or Rec and there are about 200 Greeting the hinni Holli


                          It is worth mentioning that the service provider denies it has been hacked in order is an info that is even RUMOR.[/QUOTE]

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                          • kr4sh
                            Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 55

                            #58
                            Originally posted by cowplain35
                            N3 will be cracked,not that i know anything about it,it just will be,like all the others.
                            I share this mentality towards the situation.

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                            • eton_man
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 26

                              #59
                              update to my prev threds!

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                              • eton_man
                                Junior Member
                                • Dec 2008
                                • 26

                                #60
                                the roll out of n3 not looking good for vm problems with the network and how it was set up (the number of firms and providers involved with the setup of cabel tv to the uk) now all vm, card roll out set back for 12 weeks (enjoy your xmass tv). But they have a work for the new "fix" i think we will be hit with that as close to xmass as they can so we will have to input keys all over xmass.sorry i can not give a source to info as my job would be on the line.

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