in usa the nagra 3 in around the corner any news you guys have it for 2 years what is working?
any news abaut nagra 3 in europe
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The sooner the better eh

THE TRUTH
The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12
Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.Comment
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If nagra 3 was already cracked and it may well be, What would be the point in vm spending the money to switch to it? It would be a waste, no? That just leaves iptv, tbh I'm not really 100% conviced that either of these is going to happen anymore (Not anytime soon anyway, years?)Sometimes a slow gradual approach does more good than a large gesture.Comment
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TBH i don't really believe it's hacked. I'm more hopeful than anything
but you never know 
THE TRUTH
The Hillsborough Independent Panel. 12/09/12
Today's report is black and white.The Liverpool fans were not the cause of the disaster.
The panel has quite simply found 'no evidence' in support of allegations of 'exceptional levels of drunkenness, ticketlessness or violence among Liverpool fans' and 'no evidence that fans had conspired to arrive late at the stadium' and 'no evidence that they stole from the dead and dying'.Comment
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gmb45
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nag3 will be cracked you can be sure of it if it isnt all ready, to many people will loose loads of money if it isnt,as for vermin taking to it i dont think they will, to costly, if they do it will be a good while yetComment
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I'm from the North American side just like chanda is. There are 2 different nag sat providers in North America one in Canada and one in the USA. The Canadian provider went to nag3 about 3 months ago and the American one will probably go to it in the next few months. The Canadian sat provider started sending subscribers new cards sooner than the American companies did and the American companies also have 2 or 3 times more paid subscribers, so it's taking them longer to change over. This difference in time has allowed one receiver maker to come up with a "work around" solution thus opening most of the Canadians nag3 channels. This method doesn't mean that they have broken it, they just have a way to allow the viewing of the same channels as a premium subscribed person would have, as long as the receiver has a constant internet connection.The sales of this unit skyrocketed (but hasn't dominated) because of this so this is why I don't think they have a true answer to nag3, because the first maker to put out a receiver that doesn't need an internet connection would soon become the top selling receiver and would dominate the market.Comment
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Some reports sugest that its all true what Devilfish is saying as of a few weeks ago the Kudelski Group Nagravision have started Tackling satellite fourms like Digital-kaos across Europe in the same manner as N*S police there encryption by trying to inforce have a no mention Policy.
If Nagravision 3 is hacked especially a world wide hack it will bankrupt the company as I belive nagravision has had to make financial securities with providers to stop them moving there encryption over to N*S or others and to stay with Nagravision.
If and when this happens we are looking at a N*S been the main encryption and taking over these current Nagravision providers .
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let hope that no happen because with have dave for almost 4 year and nobody has the hack yet everything is just rumor and nothing public they are nds to and now disnet changin to n3,just with have in canada card sharing,but no ppv or special event and the receiver has to be conect to internet all the time..sorry abaut my english guysComment
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Can anybody confirm the validity of the Nagra-3 AU EMU for M-vision s4/s5 USb on hispasat before christmas or is this what we are basing the curent information on ? because I have on good authority that this was none factual as no keys were ever posted for this specific Emu even though there are reports out there saying diferently, If of course anybody who has heard anything on the contrary I would like to hear it, but if this is what were are basing our information on I would not hold my breath.
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