Ireland mmds nagra3 not long now

[erukus]

thats reassuring thanks for the info

[phester]

Are you sure that Sagem boxes wont take the N3 cards. I have been asking the experts for a while now but no definite answer yet. Some saying boxes are capable with new firmware some saying that the hardware is not capable of handling such long keys

[red devil]

Are you sure that Sagem boxes wont take the N3 cards. I have been asking the experts for a while now but no definite answer yet. Some saying boxes are capable with new firmware some saying that the hardware is not capable of handling such long keys

new firmware ??? prob not on those little old sagem boxes, how would they install it on them no rs232 or ethernet port, and there is no way they will replace all boxes as they are still installing those sagem itd66, they dont even use talk back like the uk so dont bet on N3 coming to mmds any time soon, N2 is being rolled out on cable rom110 cards are doin the rounds rev a05 & a07 and my guess is there will be more revs to come, sit back enjoy wat u have and had for a while now wen it goes it goes im not bothered cos i pay a subs anyway

[phester]

A friend of mine had a problem with their cable after moving house.
They rang in the problem. IN the mean time I came out and cabled the internet correctly for them so "no more problem"

However Cho*us still came out and changed both there modem and set top box. they now have a large UPc box and new modem. "also a stupid router for a single computer...no idea why they fitted this"

Anyway the new Set top is as slow as the old box, TV guide still sucks taking 5-10 sec to appear. (box has the new card so I assume its N3)

If only I can use a sub card in my dreambox id be happy as the TV guide and user interface is much better. Of course a card share is most desirable but we will have to wait and see what is possible when the masses switch over

[red devil]

QUOTE
they now have a large UPc box and new modem.
Anyway the new Set top is as slow as the old box, TV guide still sucks taking 5-10 sec to appear. (box has the new card so I assume its N3)




is the card a white one that says UPC on it ? that is prob
a rom102 nag2 card

[john8867]

The word is that n3 has been cracked -- but cos it's not in use that much then it doesn't really matter either way...

If there is an n3 'upgrade', and things do go t*ts up then things will change...

Once an update is sorted out, it is not known whether the 'usual' boxes will be able to upgrade and cope with the new n3 encryption... therefore it could mean getting a completely new box...

Imho, the most 'future-proof' box will be the dreambox...

[glic83]

ok did anyone check the data stream?cos when i checked it a few weeks back it found nothing for n2 or n3 only n1 its seems its just the same channel as cable and it just carry's the same info but no sign of n2 or n3 in the data stream

[phester]

I will check tonight. Just a reminder on how to check. If you launch the emu in telnet is that how to check. or is there some other way

(Dreambox) owner

[glic83]

im using dw 2.1 which has dvbsnoop so thats what i use

[phester]

emm caid 0x0080
0x0081
0x0082

so if these are the individual streams they still have all 3.


I did this by running the emu in telnet

[glic83]

yeas but if you look at the emm's and log the keys you will only get keys for n1 and get nothing for n2 or n3