nagra 3

[derek kett]

can anyone tell me about nagra 3 in ireland thanks

[caveman_nige]

well they are not using it, they are using nag2

EDIT: seems my info could be a little out of date,, am getting confused easliy in my old age..

[mgb17]

UPC in ireland is using N3 but there were boxes with N2 cards installed in the past and as long as not every paying subscriber got his N2 card exchanged they cannot switch off N2.
Ex chorus areas are a different story.

[EAMO 2]

well they are not using it, they are using nag2

If you look at STREAM INFO on a dreambox it clearly shows encryption
system in use. Currentl active streams are 1801 & 1802.
This suggests to me that all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 2
and some if not all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 3.
If N*L were able to turn off N2 stream to-morrow all the pirate boxes
would only clear FTA chls..To achieve this they must first ensure that
N3 does not interfere with N*L broadband,phone,& TV systems.
Maybe Satsmo could shed some light on this subject. Could N*L achieve
this in 1;6;or 12 months. Is the finance there to fund this encryption ?

[red devil]

If you look at STREAM INFO on a dreambox it clearly shows encryption
system in use. Currentl active streams are 1801 & 1802.
This suggests to me that all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 2
and some if not all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 3.
If N*L were able to turn off N2 stream to-morrow all the pirate boxes
would only clear FTA chls..To achieve this they must first ensure that
N3 does not interfere with N*L broadband,phone,& TV systems.
Maybe Satsmo could shed some light on this subject. Could N*L achieve
this in 1;6;or 12 months. Is the finance there to fund this encryption ?

cable areas in Irl are no where near being switched
over to n3 until all subscribers have n3 cards (well ones that work properly anyway)
1800 = nag1
1801 = nag 2
1802 = nag 3
all these are being used in mmds areas and no nag2 or nag3 cards have been
issued in these areas so no worry for a while yet on mmds

[EAMO 2]

all these are being used in mmds areas and no nag2 or nag3 cards have been
issued in these areas so no worry for a while yet on mmds

Thanks for reply.You have no worries,you're on Chorus-T signal. All boxes
are still working.
N*L mmds are running chls. on N2, so only boxes with N2 fix are working

[wozzo]

If you look at STREAM INFO on a dreambox it clearly shows encryption
system in use. Currentl active streams are 1801 & 1802.
This suggests to me that all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 2
and some if not all CHLS. are running on NAGRA 3.
If N*L were able to turn off N2 stream to-morrow all the pirate boxes
would only clear FTA chls..To achieve this they must first ensure that
N3 does not interfere with N*L broadband,phone,& TV systems.
Maybe Satsmo could shed some light on this subject. Could N*L achieve
this in 1;6;or 12 months. Is the finance there to fund this encryption ?

UPC have the money to fund N3.

As was said N3 is already actively working on thousands of STBs, when the DVRs all get there new N3 card then they will start switching of N2 on the streams.

[mgb17]

cable areas in Irl are no where near being switched
over to n3 until all subscribers have n3 cards (well ones that work properly anyway)
1800 = nag1
1801 = nag 2
1802 = nag 3
all these are being used in mmds areas and no nag2 or nag3 cards have been
issued in these areas so no worry for a while yet on mmds

You should differ between exNTL areas and exChorus areas.
In exNTL areas the subscribers with N1 cards got the cards already exchanged with N3 cards and N1 was switched off. Currently UPC exchange N2 cards. In a few weeks the game is over in exNTL areas for true cable and NTL mmds.
Its not so sure what UPC is planing for the exChorus areas.

[red devil]

Its not so sure what UPC is planing for the exChorus areas.

yes you are right there...its not so sure...not so sure in fact they dont know themselves cos the ch0rus network is absolute sh1te...a complete shambles im told and some ppl in some areas are lucky that their n1 cards work sorry but the cable areas dont interest me but i have some buddy's who know lots about mmds, so for the rest of the country...they can sit back relax and keep watchin free tv for a long long time

[tomhick024]

yes you are right there...its not so sure...not so sure in fact they dont know themselves cos the ch0rus network is absolute sh1te...a complete shambles im told and some ppl in some areas are lucky that their n1 cards work sorry but the cable areas dont interest me but i have some buddy's who know lots about mmds, so for the rest of the country...they can sit back relax and keep watchin free tv for a long long time

Can i hold you to that so? Cheers

[mgb17]

yes you are right there...its not so sure...not so sure in fact they dont know themselves cos the ch0rus network is absolute sh1te...a complete shambles im told and some ppl in some areas are lucky that their n1 cards work sorry but the cable areas dont interest me but i have some buddy's who know lots about mmds, so for the rest of the country...they can sit back relax and keep watchin free tv for a long long time

It depends if UPC is planing to update or replace the old sagem boxes from chorus. The N3 streams are alredy on air via exChorus mmds.
The problem is not the network. The problem are the subscriber boxes.