will have to waite and see what the future hold for cable tv.
List of channel gone to N3
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no m8 ,, looks like chipping vm boxes might be the only way in the future or some kind of card share ?any information provided is for educational/experimental purposes only.Comment
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If Nagra 3 was secure why would they bother releasing NAGRA 4.
I have seen SKY (nagra3) hacked with dream 500 in Eire. Eastern european mate has it hacked for months, using automatic mac. address
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Sky is not hacked, and any reports of nagra 3 being hacked anywhere are unsubstantiated and dubious at best. Why give people false hopes?If Nagra 3 was secure why would they bother releasing NAGRA 4.
I have seen SKY (nagra3) hacked with dream 500 in Eire. Eastern european mate has it hacked for months, using automatic mac. address
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First of all,sky isnt n3.and this eastern european bloke,why hasnt he hacked yours for you?or upload the fix here?better still why doesnt he post here? Im sure we can all understand broken english,if they cant speak english properlyIf Nagra 3 was secure why would they bother releasing NAGRA 4.
I have seen SKY (nagra3) hacked with dream 500 in Eire. Eastern european mate has it hacked for months, using automatic mac. address
updates. Occasionally needs manual adjustments, so user needs basic
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Maybe... just maybe the Starview 1's are unreliable
The UK is still on nagra 1. Thats why we use evocamd on linux receivers and still using December firmware on current closed source receivers
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If we ever moved to nagra 2/nagra 3 then these receivers would no longer work. They didnt work in Ireland when nagra 2 came, so theres not much hope in the UKso we cant be sure of vm changing then, im not going to worry untill new cards come through the post. i recon vm will concentrate on iptv cus they are upselling the fact that they have more ON DEMAND stuff than anyone else so wont have the funds/time to do both
just a thought, i have a mate who has a modified vm box(i think talback is taken out?)
he recieves all channels, would that be affected by a change?
No they have not. We are still on nagra 1. Nagra 2 fixes have been released, but that doesnt mean that we moved over to nagra 2. Again why do we use evocamd on linux receivers and December patches on closed source receivers
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NTL have changed to N3 in Ireland. VM only offer services to the UK and not Ireland. When VM decide the need to go to N3/IPTV, then yes they would have to change some set top boxes(eg: pace 1000's) and also issue new cards out
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If sky are not using N3 please inform forum of encryption system they are
currently using. Will call to eastern bloc ally to-morrow to check he is not
using card-share. If you don't know don't post any further innacurate info,
as I haven't seen so many untruths posted in one thread on any forum.
D.K. prides itself on reliable info, so don't bring down rep. of forum by
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They are using NDS not N3. Read what it says on a Sky card. On virgin cards, it says nagravision, alternatively if you dont believe me then google for it http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sourc...018b3e94e32b3b
C/S is not a hack as such and if he did "hack" Sky, it would be widespread on the tinternets or he would be making a bomb by charging people for his "fix" Im sure many people would pay a one off fee of ?100-?200
Yes exactly. Sky was never hacked, nor was nagra 3
Tut tut. That was untruthful of you 
Telling accurate info is not posting BULLSHIT. Please use google to see if nagra 3 is actually hacked! http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&safe=off&q=Nagra+3+hacked&meta=&fp=f8018b3e94e32b3b
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