Sky warned Irish Cable Companys to deal with piracy immediatly !

[dctyper]

sky are not legally allowed to carry out these threats. it would result in a breach of contractual agreement not to mention losing its biggest customers. ofcom would also have a field day

sky may feel threatened as other companies are offering better packages now and are soon to be pushed out the market. all they can do is talk the talk......

[alunfennell]

sky are not legally allowed to carry out these threats. it would result in a breach of contractual agreement not to mention losing its biggest customers. ofcom would also have a field day

sky may feel threatened as other companies are offering better packages now and are soon to be pushed out the market. all they can do is talk the talk......

They are legally allowed ! UPC Ireland pay for the Sky service and in that contract there is provisions for encryption to used and for it to be secure !

UPC who took over operation of the Irish cable companys brought with them Nagravision who are there partners for encryption of all UPC holdings across Europe !

Sky are owned by Newscorp which own NDS encryption, Nagravision are in direct competition with NDS, Sky except in Britian and Ireland allow Nagravision to be used, else where any Provider useing Nagravision are not allowed to braodcast Fox Twenty Centuary film and Shows but broadcast HBO Films and Programming instead !

Sky would like if cable company in Britain and Ireland used NDS encryption and have made clear there interest in becoming a cable service over the coming years as well as been a satellite provider.

Its more NDS putting preasure on Cabe company in Ireland and Britian than it is Sky ....

They are fully in there rights to have there service protected.

Regards:
Alun

[mindcrime]

Why would they will lose customers at an alarming rate ? because the number on customers on min sub would probably not pay to upgrade to get all the channels they are used to . I have also never heard of anybody not being to install a sat dish , although their probably have been cases.

As for the rest not knowing nothing about sat tv and thinking sly is the only provider, are you saying the are incapable of reading a paper ? what about the peeps that live in non cabled areas and that's their only choice .

can't comment on the RTE as no nothing about it . :-)

[dctyper]

so lets get this right, the company that owns sky, also owns nds. sky are threatening to cut the stream if vm dont move to nds? surely that is against fair trading laws

having said that. if they do push ahead and vm do have to secure the netwok, they will use nagravision and they are in direct competition with nds. i would not like to make that decision for a few dodgy boxes

[red devil]

Why would they will lose customers at an alarming rate ? because the number on customers on min sub would probably not pay to upgrade to get all the channels they are used to

if my area goes to n3 i will cancel my subs with ch0rus cos if im gonna pay a
full subs to get all the channels i want then ill move to sly cos the ch0rus
service/box/epg etc. are just crap.....and most peeps i know in my situation
will do the same,

they will have the most secure encryption alright but will loose thousands
of legit customers to sly....just for the better service

[Pound 1]

Could not agree more.
I'm in Ch**us area and still have full chanels BUT when they go nag 3 I will be moving to Sly without delay.
I have already had 2 Sly salesman at the door

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

Why would you move to sky? Higher prices? Making one of the richest guys in the world richer.. If No one subscribed to sky then sky wouldnt have all these channels now and all the epl rights So now we would have had companies like virgin with their own sport channels ! Same with movies !

[poolfan]

Are sky putting the same pressure on Virgin in the Uk, surely they are losing out more there than in Ireland or are the Uk better protected by competition authorities?

[dctyper]

Are sky putting the same pressure on Virgin in the Uk, surely they are losing out more there than in Ireland or are the Uk better protected by competition authorities?

thats what i was thinking

[smirnoff_rules]

Are sky putting the same pressure on Virgin in the Uk, surely they are losing out more there than in Ireland or are the Uk better protected by competition authorities?

l think the end bits right m8 , and also theres 10's of thousands of very old boxes in uk to and aren't going to work with a n3 card ,

they would be better spending the next 6 months checking all the green boxes and disconnecting all the non payers ,

that the first thing ld do if l was running the show

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

that the first thing ld do if l was running the show

Thats the reason your Not we enjoy free TV..

[wozzo]

thats what i was thinking

As was said earlier, Virgin have a lifeline in UK Legislation which is insisting that Sky not have a monopoly.

IF Ofcom wasnt doing this Virgin would be in major trouble, They cant afford to change the encryption.

[alunfennell]

Yeah but Sky have announced there interest in entering the Cable service themselves, what Sky are trying to do is make life hard for Providers who can not keep there service secure ! as these cable companys are rebroadcasters of the Sky channel Network.

If Sky start knocking off Cable companys as they have threatened in the ROI either these cable companys shut up shop of start changing channel content over to HBO and Sports from Nova or some other source thats affiliated with Nagravision ...

Remember Nagravision do not encrypt Cable or satellite transmittion of the Sky, Fox, Newscop network as they run there own Encryption company NDS ...Only and except in the ROI and UK on Cable...

What Sky are realy after to to make all Cabe companys operating reboadcasting of Sky UK to start useing NDS and dump Nagravision Its plain as day what they are trying to do ! force Nagraviosin out and for NDS encryption to be adopted on cable as it is with Satellite...

Regards:
Alun

[tvadict]

Now if nds come to cable the game will truelly be over for the next decade

[.: JaCkPoT :.]

I dont really think that NDS will take over nag3. Infact i think NDS and the newscorp are made jealous by the success that Nagravision3 has had.