narvision 3 is being use in ireland now"

[ranger]

i have a krypted view a750 and eurovox 5100, and i though i was doing well . but now n+l has moved over to narvision 3 here in ireland , all of the sky and sports channells and adult channells have got the chop" i was thinking , all of the boxes dont work over here any more, but your are still on narvision, on narvision 1 over in the uk " any body got a big truck , to take them over on the ferry , oh thanks for all your help , with the narvision 2 fix this year worked great " , ranger,

[Swiftie]

Haven't got a BIG TRUCK but how much u selling them for?

[Raymeo]

I'd let mine go for E80 or GBP70. (one week old) I'm sure I could get more for a similar price too.

[GIGABYTES]

i am from dublin and only bought a box is there going to be any fix for nagra 3 or are dodgy boxes gone forever

[Raymeo]

from what I have been reading Gigabytes, you can pretty much put any dodgy box plans on hold for a pretty long time, especially in Ireland.

[portbhoy]

Found on another forum quite funny but informative too

Think of the smartcard as a house. The front door is locked and only the
person with the key can enter (RSA key). Now, think of the EEPROM as the
cookie jar! In the old days, Dish and DTV would place the cookie jar(EEPROM)
close to a window in the house. Then came along the cookie monster(hacker)
who didn't have the RSA key to enter from the front door of the house.
Instead, he broke the window and grabbed the cookies (glitch attack)
However, he had to break a lot of windows before finding the correct window (required a lot of experiments with clock timing and voltage amplitudes).
Once he knew the correct window (determined exact clock glitch timing) he
could just go to the next house (new smart card) and repeat the process.


Okay, so dish and DTV got smart and moved the cookied jar to the basement
where there are NO windows. Now, the cookie monster can still break all the
windows (i.e. glitch attacks still work) but he can no longer reach the
cookies because they are in the basement. Also, the cookie monster is too
big to fit through any of the windows and get to the basement to get the
cookies. As a further precaution, DTV boarded up all the windows in the
house to prevent anyone from breaking them in the first place (no glitch
attacks are possible at all). Dish on the other hand, just moved the cookie
jar away from the windows and didn't feel it was necessary to board them up.


So how do Dish and DTV communicate with the cookie jar (EEPROM)? That is
simple! They have a slave locked in the house who knows the RSA decrypt key.
Dish and DTV send encrypted letters through the mail slot of the door. The
slave decrypts them and follows the instructions. The most important message
that Dish and DTV will request is: "Does this house have access to a
particular video channel? If yes, produce the video keys". Okay, so when the
slave gets this request, he goes and checks the cookie jar in the basement
to see if the "channel tiers" exist. If so, the slave says "YES" and video
decryption proceeds. If not, then the slave says "NO" and the video is not
decrypted.

So what can the cookie monster do? With DTV, nothing because the windows have been completely boarded up. With Dish, he can still break the windows.
And now, what he needs to do is hit the slave in the head with a rock
kind of glitch attack) when he is making the decisions about whether to
produce the video keys or not. If the cookie monster hits the slave in the
head with the rock at the precise moment (clock glitches must be precisely
timed), then it is possible the slave will get confused and produce the
video keys when he shouldn't have!


But, you can all see that hitting the slave in the head with a rock is much,
much, more difficult than just breaking the window and grabbing the cookies
like in the past!
The only other option the cookie monster has now is to pay a building
contractor millions of dollars to remove the house from its foundation (ie.
microprobe the card with expensive scientific instruments) without
destroying the basement! Then the cookie monster will finally have his jar
of cookies (ie. EEPROM dump)



sorry guys but no furtune cookies available yet ...

[moosey]

Hi, looks like its all over here in ireland for the dogiboxes
for now anyway, ive 4 sv4s and 2 kryptviews in the boxes, anyone in the uk interested in them pm me please

[westkill]

no buying or selling boxes on the forum !!!

[moosey]

no buying or selling boxes on the forum !!!

Sorry didnt know, where could i sell them ?

[smirnoff_rules]

ebay is as good as anywhere m8 advertise as fta tho

[cgscott]

Hi, looks like its all over here in ireland for the dogiboxes
for now anyway, ive 4 sv4s and 2 kryptviews in the boxes, anyone in the uk interested in them pm me please

Al give you a fiver for each one.

[piptaps]

people from ireland are getting greedy. 80Euro for a doggy box? In china they are US$50 delivered, which is ?30

[satsmo]

Thats for a bulk order (talking in 100s) of clone closed source boxes. So unless you would like to become a trader not really worth your while is it?

I am sure that many people in Ireland will be selling their boxes for less than cost plus p&p.