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  • aftermath
    V.I.P. Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 4345

    #16
    Originally posted by tubs
    satsmo thanke you so muuh .but what i dont understand is eurov0x ,starview dont use cards so y can something do the same with n3
    at the mo , those are using an emulator to decrypt the keys.

    most people have been lucky with 1 keyroll in the last 6 month.

    when a keyroll happens you will get a picture freeze for a few seconds, or possibly need a re boot or even a channel change to get the picture back on.

    now if N3 was in place it will do a key change every 10 seconds or so. Now if you think about it if a key change was every 10 seconds there is no way your box would be able to decrypt the keys in time to get a steady picture.

    Do you get my drift ?

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    • Pound 1
      Member
      • Jul 2009
      • 73

      #17
      Caught your drift in both hands Aftermath.
      At least I now understand what Nag 3 is all about

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      • poolfan
        Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 70

        #18
        Originally posted by aftermath
        at the mo , those are using an emulator to decrypt the keys.

        most people have been lucky with 1 keyroll in the last 6 month.

        when a keyroll happens you will get a picture freeze for a few seconds, or possibly need a re boot or even a channel change to get the picture back on.

        now if N3 was in place it will do a key change every 10 seconds or so. Now if you think about it if a key change was every 10 seconds there is no way your box would be able to decrypt the keys in time to get a steady picture

        Do you get my drift ?
        would it be true to say that even if there is a n3 fix in the future which will probably be a long time, will we need new receivers that hve quicker processing speed than the ones we are using now?

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        • .: JaCkPoT :.
          Retired Sat TV Addict
          • Aug 2008
          • 5607

          #19
          Originally posted by poolfan
          would it be true to say that even if there is a n3 fix in the future which will probably be a long time, will we need new receivers that hve quicker processing speed than the ones we are using now?
          Yes thats correct however receivers like the dreambox and dbox which are both Linux based should be able to emulate nag3 if ever a fix is discovered!
          Nagra 1 i believe use 8 digits for key 00 and another 8 for key 01 - now Nagra2 uses 16digits for key 00 and another 16 digits for key 01 - now nag3 uses 32 digits for key 00 and another 32 for key 01. This makes the encryption So much more secure and emulating a encryption like this will cause most receivers to crash and reboot due to the processing speed required!

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          • poolfan
            Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 70

            #20
            Im sure there will be a fix sometime for nag3 make take a year or so, at then maybe nag 4 will have been introduced. Maybe i should hang onto my dbox?

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            • waqasahmed
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2009
              • 433

              #21
              Originally posted by poolfan
              Im sure there will be a fix sometime for nag3 make take a year or so, at then maybe nag 4 will have been introduced. Maybe i should hang onto my dbox?
              You'd be v. lucky for nag 3 to be hacked in a year.No one in the world has hacked n3 ever since it was released
              Lose your memory sticks? Forget to backup? Why not get 2GB of free space online, and I get 250MB too

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              • dank76
                DK Veteran
                • Nov 2008
                • 745

                #22
                could the eurovox 7000 hd box be used in the future if there is a fix?

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                • tvadict
                  DK Veteran
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 363

                  #23
                  Originally posted by dank76
                  could the eurovox 7000 hd box be used in the future if there is a fix?
                  Nothing beats the palm sized dreambox. All other boxes will be bricks of rubbish soon. Dbox 2 is good as well.

                  Names like technomate, eurovox, starview, etc, we will hear less and less of them soon as they will fall behind in technology

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                  • Hob
                    Top Poster +
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 240

                    #24
                    I can feel the tension hitting me head on from this thread.
                    Stop worrying it will be sorted.

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                    • xra
                      Newbie
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 2

                      #25
                      kryptview a750

                      any update

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                      • waqasahmed
                        DK Veteran
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 433

                        #26
                        xtra dont hope for a n3 fix for the kv I suggest you google card sharing and get a sat receiver
                        Lose your memory sticks? Forget to backup? Why not get 2GB of free space online, and I get 250MB too

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                        • freck
                          DK Veteran
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 1076

                          #27
                          Wathch this and see how people are doing on the sat side.
                          YouTube - N3 Nagra 3 & The IKS Myth
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                          • .: JaCkPoT :.
                            Retired Sat TV Addict
                            • Aug 2008
                            • 5607

                            #28
                            There will be NO Nag3 Fix anytime soon! Satellite TV across europe have over 15 providers using Nag3 and all these providers and channels are much more attractive than the sky channels If nag3 is ever hacked it will be a rom being used for a satellite provider as most of the hackers have no access to Virgin media feed as theyre not in the UK.

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                            ___________________
                            In the good old days, I had
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                            Openbox S10
                            TM500
                            DM500s
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                            Maxx 110cm Dish
                            Technomate 2300 Motors

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                            • waqasahmed
                              DK Veteran
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 433

                              #29
                              Originally posted by freck
                              Wathch this and see how people are doing on the sat side.
                              YouTube - N3 Nagra 3 & The IKS Myth
                              Funny, I was watching that the other day, got interested in nFusion only to find it only works in the US

                              Originally posted by .: JaCkPoT :.
                              There will be NO Nag3 Fix anytime soon! Satellite TV across europe have over 15 providers using Nag3 and all these providers and channels are much more attractive than the sky channels If nag3 is ever hacked it will be a rom being used for a satellite provider as most of the hackers have no access to Virgin media feed as theyre not in the UK.
                              So whats a batter european package than Sky UK apart from Sky Italia and do they have a lot of english and asian channels. I know nothing on sat(except Digi TV) can be hacked, but just curious. For people reading this Digi TV is due to go secure some time soon
                              Lose your memory sticks? Forget to backup? Why not get 2GB of free space online, and I get 250MB too

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