NAGRA 3 ARRIVES IN THE UNITED KINGDOM

[zak101]

but can it be hacked ? (n3) i have never heard of a chipped sly box

[DESSERTDOG]

Not at this time just maybe in the future but dont hold your breath

[Sicilian]

When it goes, it goes. At the end of the day good things dont last forever & everyones had a good run with this.

[cactikid]

i can only receive it on my protek atm

did not know you had a working protecre server issues

[satman]

this 1841 satsearching, is probably something to do with there little testing going on down there,, remember fun cards n stuff the now were knocked off,,,

p.s defo not conax as someone suggested.

[despdan]

No, but doing this in Leeds, peeps see this....

1800h: Kudelski SA
1841h: Kudelski SA

So what is 1841?

Could be nagra3 in the states nagra3 is 1810h they can call it what ever they like its only a reference.

Dump the 1841h EMMs & then you will know

[tony_i]

Here's my experiences this week.

I'm not far from Leeds in North Yorkshire. I scan on ex CW. I have an SV4.

Woke up Tuesday morning to no channels. Rescanned but still loads of channels missing.

I had 1.07 loaded. Replaced it with 1.12. I now have all channels. (Of course I now have no scheduling recording facilities because 1.12 is crap and the chances of an upgrade for the SV4 are remote if past experiences are anything to go by.)

So something has changed to make 1.07 obsolete. 1.12 still gets all channels. On Tuesday the reception levels were varying wildly, going as low as 20%. They are now stable at 69%. (Quality has always been a steady 99%.)

So something has definitely changed in this area. Hopefully this bullshit-free info can help someone figure out what it is.

I'm so pissed off with having to use 1.12 and its crap epg that I'm thinking of buying a linux box but obviously I'm having to think about this until we know what is going on.

[Toilet sniffer V]

Nagra 3 is about to be rolled out right across the United Kingdom.

Cards are now being delivered to Virgin Customers, the switchover will begin in November, all boxes will be dead by the end of November, Virgin has brought forward the implementation of Nagra 3 after huge success in Ireland where
Profits have increased beyond all expectations.

No boxes on the market can handle Nagra 3 at this moment in time..

I had Virgin installed last week. You'd have thought that I'd have had a new card when they fitted it. They didn't. You're lying aren't you?

I got my Eurovox yesterday and it works fine. Please provide a link or something other than a clowns opinion to show you haven't made this up.

[freck]

Nagra 3 is about to be rolled out right across the United Kingdom.

Cards are now being delivered to Virgin Customers, the switchover will begin in November, all boxes will be dead by the end of November, Virgin has brought forward the implementation of Nagra 3 after huge success in Ireland where
Profits have increased beyond all expectations.

No boxes on the market can handle Nagra 3 at this moment in time..

Good one there

[SatSearching]

Hmmm, the pid for that ID only has data in the first 4 bytes, so not sure what it is........

[satman]

Assessing Cable's IPTV Future
MSOs Increasingly Embrace Internet Protocols For Video
Todd Spangler -- , 9/25/2009 2:30:50 PM EDT


Cable technology executives used to recoil at any mention of the term "IPTV." Back a few years ago, Internet Protocol television was exclusively an architecture championed by telcos--as a competitive threat to cable's core video services.

IPTV is no longer a four-letter oath cable circles. Increasingly for operators, the evolution to delivering video over an all-IP infrastructure is not a question of if, but when.
"IP hasn't lost many battles," said Scott Hatfield, Cox Communications' executive vice president and chief technology officer. "The old joke is that the score is IP 398, everything else 0."
There's now an expectation that cable providers will, at some point in the future, deliver all video services over IP. A move to IPTV would cut costs on the set-top side--by eliminating the need for tuners--while providing more capabilities, said Ken Lowe, senior vice president of strategic marketing at Sigma Designs, a manufacturer of chips for set-top boxes
"It's become more and more apparent that IPTV is being looked at as a business decision by the cable operators, rather than a religious decision," Lowe said.
The big questions at this point are how quickly cable will go the IPTV route, and what form the services will take in the home. The pace at which the shift happens depends on each individual operator's "appetite for risk and appetite for expense," said Buddy Snow, senior director of solutions marketing for Motorola's Broadband Home Solutions group. "We see a lot of variability out there."
Before they go to a full IPTV architecture, cable operators are looking to mix and match, delivering supplemental IP video to the TV while the bulk of the linear lineup continues to be MPEG-2 video over quadrature amplitude modulation (QAM) channels. Set-top box makers including Cisco Systems and Motorola have introduced hybrid QAM-IP devices that allow the blending IP video using embedded DOCSIS cable modems.
"You need devices that are capable of delivering today's architecture but can migrate to tomorrow's architecture," said Murali Nemani, Cisco's director of service provider marketing for video.
Last week, Arris made a push into the IP video gateway arena, announcing the acquistion of Paul Allen's Digeo for $20 million in cash. Digeo's Moxi HD DVR lets users access video and other media through Internet connection, and Arris wants to embed that technology into a new class of converged home gateways.
The new line of Arris IP-enabled gateways will "blend Internet content with service-provider content...giving the subscriber a rich entertainment experience," Bruce McClelland, president of Arris's Broadband Communications Systems business unit, said on a conference call with reporters.
Cable operators are starting to move beyond lab trials and actually deploying IP video gateways in the field, said Adam Powers, director of standards and emerging technology for Rovi, the electronics-middleware supplier formerly called Macrovision Solution.
"The way it's being viewed now is, the residential gateway will provide Web services to the rest of the home--then over time you get rid of the legacy infrastructure so you don't need QAM modulation and CableCards," he said.
But there are still many different ways to deliver a "cable IPTV" service to the home. Some approaches are geared around a gateway that distributes and transcodes video at the customer premises. Others use a DOCSIS bypass mechanism, in which IP video is sent directly over a QAM to a device so the cable-modem termination system isn't bogged down with that high-bandwidth traffic.
"There's not a level of consistency across the industry about how this will happen," said Snow, adding that there "there won't be 32 flavors... it's going to be vanilla, chocolate and strawberry."
Another X-factor in the mix is cable's eventual move to the MPEG-4 video format. Snow suggested operators may introduce IP-based video to set-tops simultaneously with MPEG-4.
Even farther off, MSOs might introduce video over IP when they roll out a 3-D TV service, which would require even more bandwidth to deliver than HD video does, said Amir Bassan-Eskenazi, president and CEO of BigBand Networks. His company sells a CMTS bypass solution for IP video.
"Frankly nobody can figure out what the shape of these services will be in the future," he said. "But what [operators] really need is the ability to offer more services to one-up the competition, and do it in a simple way to cut their operating expenses."
On a related trajectory, MSOs have been tapping IP to more efficiently distribute video to their headends. Cox, for example, has consolidated IP video distribution over its backbone network, with national programming feeds originating from two data centers, one in Atlanta and another in San Diego, Hatfield said.
Similarly, earlier this month, U.K. cable operator Virgin Media announced a plan to migrate its legacy digital video delivery infrastructure to IP, using Cisco equipment. When completely deployed, the new TV platform will be capable of serving more than 12.6 million homes across Virgin Media's footprint in the U.K.
"From the operators' perspective, they've been swallowing this cow one bite at a time," Sigma Designs' Lowe said.

[bumble]

hi

vms original plan of ngtv was to start in kirklees,, leeds,, barnsley.

mmmmm

bumble

[Gratis]

As VM are very slack in changing their encrption with new boxes & cards delivered to households costing millions,it maybe Sky who loses out on the revenue,therefore VM are not too bothered with hacking as long as consumers take their phone & broadband.Unless Sky pressurise VM,nothing will change.Recently,Ofcom voted against Sky and asked them to reduce their wholesale package costs to cable companies.There is a lot of politics going on here & unless all involved come to an agreement,ie VM make more profit from any Sky package customers,then nothing will change for a while yet.In fact,Jeremy Darroch could well be blundering as if he would agree on price cuts to VM,who would then roll out more secure encrytion method,the uptake for sky packages would eventually increase their revenue

[pedst]

Nagra 3 is about to be rolled out right across the United Kingdom.

Cards are now being delivered to Virgin Customers, the switchover will begin in November, all boxes will be dead by the end of November, Virgin has brought forward the implementation of Nagra 3 after huge success in Ireland where
Profits have increased beyond all expectations.

No boxes on the market can handle Nagra 3 at this moment in time..

i remember hearin this at start of dec last year and turned out to be load of bull!

[Hob]

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