VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

[chongsparks]

I'll do my best to find out the full details of this. Im only letting others know what a good friend has told me.

I would image different transponders will send a different signal down the line etc. Maybe all frequencies are here all the time or maybe they only come down when they are called for. I dont know how it all works.

What i do know is that im a sparky and if a house were using the smallest lowest wattage lightbulb off another house but claimed to have no electric at all. My testers would show results that electric is in there house. and not coming down there incoming line. then you could workout with a few more test who's house it was actually coming from.

Im not saying cable tv works like this, im just giving a little thought into the topic

[Jaffa]

A very good friend of mine who's wife works for VM has told me to turn off my box on moday night a leave it off for at least 2 weeks, VM have a new system thats costing them thousands to run (hence the 2 weeks) and they can detect any box recieving none paid channels.

I know the boxes dont talk back etc, but believe me they know when they do an area sweep. Ive been told that some area's are up and running now and they have prosecuted loads.

Sheffield is starting on tueday and will last for two weeks.

I said that my box doesn't talkback and i was told this doesn't matter while they are sweeping the area they will find you.
I was also told it will still find you even if you have VM box attached with card in and a splitter to your illegal box.

Has anyone else heard this ???

You are only doing what you think is right and warning people, unfortunately there have be many similar threads over the years but one thing we do know.

In 2 weeks time you will be able to say either.

1. I told you so and tried to warn you all.
OR
2. I guess my info was wrong, sorrying for worrying you lot.

Cheers anyway m8, keep us informed.

[wooper]

yes, thanks for the info.

Think I may unplug for a day or 2, just to be sure!!!

[caveman_nige]

We appreciate what your saying chongsparks, all will be unsure of how to take it and dubious at the info as similar alerts have come and gone before. As you said , see what else you can find out and we can go from there..

[Devilfish]

Take this information as you will. It's speculation at it's best. 9 times out of 10 people just pass information on and it grows arms and legs. Who has had the information before you and what have they added? You don't know!

I know you are only looking out for everyone but when you start this type of post, be prepared for a bit of slagging.

I'm not saying you're information is true or false because it's the first I've read it. But these types of threads are not new to me.

Wait until after the 2 weeks and see how many people complain, that's all I'm saying.

[boocay06]

what if chongsparks actually works for VM and is trying to scare us all? this would be a brilliant place to start sand spread a rumour

[bugaloo41]

Chong thanks for the info appreciate you are only trying to help mate.

Anyone who has been at this for any length of time will know that these rumours tend to have as much substance as Dale Winton joining the SAS. I will as usual take my chances.

[chongsparks]

No Problems peeps, Dont wont to worry nobody, im just telling what ive been told.

I hope it is just a scare and the cable bosses have told staff knowing it will get out and scare people. I just cant understand the specific dates that they claim it will be happening. then all back to normal.

Im going to phone then up in a while to try and find a little more out.

If it is a hoax, i do apologise in advance.

Regards,
Chong

[mept1]

only way i can see this workin is if they have somthing where they can pick up which green boxes have the hookie boxes pluged in to them then they would have to go to that green box and then plug whatever it is they have in to all the feeds from there in to each house one at a time to pick out who are running them and who arent.
only trouble is?
vm havent the resources to do this!!

[delv]

Many years ago my brother worked for the G.P.O(before they split into B T and the Royal Mail)and when i said to him that the detector vans were fakes he said that not only were they real but they could tell what channel you were watching where in the house or flat the tv was and on what wall.He swore by this for years.Anyway one day im watching a program about them trying to detect an illegal radio station and it took them hours,running around with hand held detectors and triangulating betwwen them.When i spoke to my brother about this he could not explain this.When i asked him if he ever actually saw inside one the detector vans he had to abmit that niether he nor any of his work friends had.They had been told by there bosses and they believed them.PROPAGANDA!

[Barnsley Bill]

Here we go...its xmas is it....for ~~~~sake..bad news travels fast..this is on every forum now...2 weeks and counting then..do ya think if vm had this tech..theyd be shouting this from the rooftops,to trash the cable scene..and do ya think theyd have cried on fleabay to take the boxes off,if they could stop them..they would have taken great delight in letting peeps buy there pressies.then announcing this.I have friends also that are engineers,they just had a good laff at my expence,when i phoned em.
Now a fact.....every nthell engineer as been given orders,to visit every green cab in the country,disabling the none subbed lines,this will also take a age..but eventually,they will get round to you.So minium package everybody..and b4 ya say.il just open the cab up and rejoin my connection..ya wont,there taking the house numbers off the cable connection..

[aftermath]

look at this scenario.

we all know that a lot or VM staff are as dodgy as some of us.

so i would not be surprised to see that their employers also know this.

so they send out a message to the staff saying that they now have a way that can detect their dodgy boxes and will be trying it out soon.

some of the staff start panicking and either grassing each other up or show signs they are hiding something.

We have seen these scaremongering tricks from VM before, even recently when the put some hidden channels onto a transponder that only a none VM box will find, with a warning message.

now would they go to that extent if they knew they had a cure for the dodgy boxes.

Time will tell.

one thing is for sure, and that is one day they will find a way, so untill then happy viewing.

[Fspiders]

I was gonna ask chongsparks what area he was in.. but there's no point as he'll be sat in the dark with his electric turned off looking at shadows passing the green box.

For years VM have known that 75% of theft of their product are by people who work for them.

For years VM have known that to stop 40% off illegal use of their product all they have to do is disconnect non subbed lines in the green box. They haven't managed that to date due to the fact that the 75% of VM engineers mentioned above will happily reconnect you for ?20. This applies to stopping illegal modems not just tv.

The easiest and cheapest way for them to halve their loss is to employ an outside reliable company that can make all green boxes secure (the one down from my house is wide open with the front panel missing) even from the VM ex and current engineers.

until VM start to clean up their own house they will always be fighting a losing battle.


Will I be turning my box off? Not a chance I want to see Newcastle thrashed yet again. LOL

As for the illegal channel warning... Nynex did the same thing many years ago on the analogue boxes... If I remember correctly the same message was re-upped to the new digital transponders 5yr ago. At least this time they have added some nice bright graphics.

Regards.

[chongsparks]

Sheffield area

[thered]

A very good friend of mine who's wife works for VM has told me to turn off my box on moday night a leave it off for at least 2 weeks, VM have a new system thats costing them thousands to run (hence the 2 weeks) and they can detect any box recieving none paid channels.

I know the boxes dont talk back etc, but believe me they know when they do an area sweep. Ive been told that some area's are up and running now and they have prosecuted loads.

Sheffield is starting on tueday and will last for two weeks.

I said that my box doesn't talkback and i was told this doesn't matter while they are sweeping the area they will find you.
I was also told it will still find you even if you have VM box attached with card in and a splitter to your illegal box.

Has anyone else heard this ???

if this is true i think it is just scare tactics then they would need the full police force going around with them because they cant enter your house without a warrant and a police officer which means unless they do this or you are daft enough to let them in you are untouchable to a certain degree

the only feasible way for them to do this is to do as barnsley bill has stated and unplug all the cables from the boxes in the street but even this will not work because numbered or not people would find a way to reconnect even if they had to connect every wire till it worked

or everyone knows someone who works for virgin or they know someone who knows someone they will just pay him ?20 to reconnect him so it will just go around in circles

another thing anyone who has broadband will not be disconnected so they wont lose tv so i think whatever happens they are just pi55ing in the wind

anyone who is worried take min subs or cheap broadband me i for one wont be losing any sleep and i dont think anyone else should

the only time to worry is when it becomes unhackable