VM Crackdown, no box is safe !

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  • tdubman
    Newbie
    • Dec 2008
    • 14

    #181
    toffee

    Originally posted by chongsparks
    I have no idea, mock all you want, im only letting others know what a very good friend of mine has told me, They would have no reason to lie to me.

    Have you ever thought that they could transmit a spoof signal and see what nuber of boxes recieve it and how many bounce back, that could be done for every street since it will take 2 week to cover just my city alone.

    Maybe an engineer will be sent out to every box on the street ( outdoor main panel at end of street ) and run tests from there. Like i said, its costing them thousands to do just for my area alone so think of the nationwide cost of it. Do you really think they will spend all this money when they wont find ~~~~all.
    People are being charged in other cities right now for this, so it does work and the equipment that was found in the homes were dreamboxes/ eurovox etc etc. All with no-talkback
    as many people no that a number of people have been raided selling eurovox and all the others ...the police have taken invoices away and got warrants to search adresses that have had boxes sent to.... i and none of the other crews have been ask to attend any cabs all day on monday or any other day ...there will be a poss software change because of the sport that goes on over xmass ... so you order the right way

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    • gmb45

      #182
      crackdown

      hi all ive read every post on this here heres my view.theres only one way vermin is going to stop us is nagravision 3 to adopt this system by all accounts is very complicated and very expensive,i have read that vermin is making lots of people redundant perhaps this is one way of paying for it.If they do adopt this system and fcuk us all up i for one will be off to vermins opposition as will hundreds if not thousands of others im sure,so how much money will they loose there.one way they could keep customers is cut prices to say something like 30 quid a month for say basic bb basic phone and XL tv then i think people wouldnt bother with the boxes and vermin could charge extra for larger bb packages and tv and extra for ppv.But i think greed will stop them from doing that (greed will beat anyone in the long run).As for checking the boxes in the street its possible but again its the cost and the manpower would be massive,i suppose they could use a private firm do this on a few selected people which they know have brought them over the net then possibly prosecute them as scare tactics.Even if they did prosecute some people they would get away with paying the fine at a few quid a week,not much of a deterrent.As for boxes talking back my mate has had his blue box plugged in for over 2 years and not had his vermin box plugged for about the same amount of time he leant his vermin box to someone and cant get it back so i would have thought if anyone would get a visit from vermin he would but nothing just shows you if you believe everything you read he would have been done a long time ago.Everything vermin are doing at the mo i think are scare tactics and they are trying to grab lots more customers on the run up to christmas which they will have tied them into a contract for a year.personally i think vermin will adopt nagravision 3 but it wont be some months yet and if they get a lot more customers before christmas as im sure they have it will off set some of the cost of nagravision 3.In the mean time enjoy your box.And dont forget if vermin do take on nagravision 3 nothing is fool proof,all them people who are selling the boxes wont be making any money so they will be on overtime looking for a cure,so keep your boxes,money is a good motivator so a fix will emerge eventually just a matter of time.These are just my thoughts what do you think ? and i have a vermin box in my street right out side my window so i will be keeping an eye on it for unusal activity i havent seen any body go in to the box in about 2 years.
      Last edited by gmb45; 21 December, 2008, 08:33.

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      • larssonn
        Newbie
        • Nov 2008
        • 6

        #183
        Had a read of this when it was first started and god almighty it has gone bonkers with the amount of posts and views!

        The post that alluded to the 10th Dec(?) as the day that the nagravision would be introduced and make all the boxes useless came and went. No surprise there. It's easy for someone to just come on and spew out loads of crap.

        I noticed the channel that displays the 'illegal box' message and aint worried at seeing that. Virgin simply transmit x amount of channels and their receivers filter the ones that you have subscribed to so someone with an unsubbed box filters none and sees all the channels. You would never see a test channel either on a subbed box either would you, so seeing that wouldn't make you panic?


        The unsubbed boxes have no talkback so its not straightforward for them to find out. That's why they are advertising on TV for people to shop people with illegal boxes. Even original TW boxes that have been modded aren't detectable as their talkback has been cut.

        They could go to the pit at the end of everyone's garden but that would cost lots of time and money. Apologies if this has been said before.

        I have Sky+ as well that i pay for so i only watch the cable for sports or movies that interest me and have the box totally unplugged otherwise. I believe that its not illegal to own a box, only to use it?

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        • GrimReaper87
          Junior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 21

          #184
          You guys had better take this threat seriously, the other night i heard the letterbox opening and was surprised to see several Small bipedal robotic eye scanners (See Minority Report) go through the house doing a random sweep which resulted in pictures being taken of attachments to live cable feeds in the house and instant zapping methods of boxes which has resulted in a single channel showing endless repeats of Richard Branson in a Hot Air Balloon.

          Even if they could detect a box and came round, just unplug the cable feed when a knock at the door comes which is out of the blue (not Simon Webbe) and there is nothing that can be done about it.

          Nagra 3 is not a problem either, whilst I know nothing about the programming side of things I do know this has been cracked some time ago as the US is currently on Nagra 3, I also have info from a good source that boxes will be available when the time comes (this is from the same source who assured me an SV1 fix would be available although could take up to a month from the date of the last VM shake up).

          Happy Christmas All.

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          • Dazzonamission
            Top Poster
            • Sep 2008
            • 174

            #185
            Originally posted by GrimReaper87
            You guys had better take this threat seriously, the other night i heard the letterbox opening and was surprised to see several Small bipedal robotic eye scanners (See Minority Report) go through the house doing a random sweep which resulted in pictures being taken of attachments to live cable feeds in the house and instant zapping methods of boxes which has resulted in a single channel showing endless repeats of Richard Branson in a Hot Air Balloon.

            Even if they could detect a box and came round, just unplug the cable feed when a knock at the door comes which is out of the blue (not Simon Webbe) and there is nothing that can be done about it.

            Nagra 3 is not a problem either, whilst I know nothing about the programming side of things I do know this has been cracked some time ago as the US is currently on Nagra 3, I also have info from a good source that boxes will be available when the time comes (this is from the same source who assured me an SV1 fix would be available although could take up to a month from the date of the last VM shake up).

            Happy Christmas All.
            Hilarious !!

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            • mjharris
              Newbie
              • Dec 2008
              • 1

              #186
              Thanks for your levelling statement Satsmo. Its very easy for people like me who are novices at using this type of equipment to become worried by this sort of mis-information.

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