maybe the sellers and the dealers are ?or according to the servo the demand is greater or its the easy one who knows /
The Official Kryptview Moan thread!
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[quote=stevieboy10;1064324]i never said it was a different server, i was merely trying to point out theres something fishy goin on. as the sv server adds channels the kv server goes down. i think we can all see where the uploaders cards you were talking about earlier went.
So you are saying starview and kryptview are using the same cards? i dont think that is the case at all and both are run by different people. it may be a coincidence that has happened but it is not related at all. as you can see things are not settled with the server and they will be trying to sort that out. one point you are missing here is that kryptview look after there customers and starview dont, there support has been rubbish for years and since kryptview have been running there support has been excellent.same story from last year in testing etc. etc. well theres one thing for sure these boxes are manufactured in the far east. where they are extensivley tested before being shipped to supplier(kv). kryptview dont build design or manufacture there stb's. they just need someone to write a fw that applies to our network ie. regions and epg etc and works in conjunction with their server. again u mention things being settled. what exactly? according to sources the kv uploaders werent the target only an importer. the dust will never settle theres too much money involved.
why wouldnt they, look at sv they released the combo+ and the sv6 still outsold it. hence the combo+ being dropped and introduction of boxes like sv7 and caci.
The starview combo was to expensive to make thats why they stopped selling them as they were backdoored and the price was dropped by the people who was backdooring them so the importers stopped selling them.
Kryptview wanted to bring the iconnector out for the dw800 but it wasnt possible hense having a new HD box designed with a DVB-C tuner and a DVB-T tuner.Comment
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no one knows how long they will last so its not a fact they could stop working tomorrow. What have you been watching? the new starview server is 10 times better then the old starview server but no way better then the kryptview serverComment
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Star view do not use the same cards although *a** and his team originally said that the system will last along as the box's are being sold but as there is a limited supply and the factory only release a small amount it appears that this is not the case! To have an effective cable share they require at least 24 -30 cards in total (at least) one card = one tp with an average of 9 channels and obviously there subs are being paid aswell but as the volumes of sales increase this initial cost also decreases! Although the kv team will reduce duration of the box subs but it won't be announced yet, but I assure you it will be the case! But at the end of the day if they last 2month any buyer has got there money back fact! It's the risk you take! but personally I'd rather take the risk! It's the risk takers that are always better off in the long run!Comment
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They could just create a name and post from laptop using a PayAs U Go dongle. Their isp or location would be impossible to trace.Your right the server feed is almost instant but obtaining the cards for the uploader isn't instant and can take a bit of time. When sv went down it took nearly 2 months for most channels it's been 3 week for the kv and within 2 weeks they had sports and the asian. They are working hard trying to sort things and they are not messing there customers around. The kv team are not stupid to come on an open forum and give details that's why they pass the information down through people.
My point is they have our money and don't show their clients any loayalty in return. Lets face it, they have made a killing out of their clientelle...which is us.Accidents cause people.Comment
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Thank you Stevie. Think you've said everything I would've said in your posts.something dont add up here topshoter187, obtaining cards
, if they werent busted what happened to their original cards? from the way we were informed the uploaders were taken down as a precaution. if this was the case then were did the original cards go? this is getting a bit obvious here. one server goes back online(sv) and another one dies(kv). always had a sneaky suspicion it was all integrated in some sort of way.
The KV team in my opinion have taken us for mugs!Accidents cause people.Comment
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[quote=topshoter187;1065070]yep and am still sticking to it. you have contradicted yourself on more than 1 occasion. you said they were having trouble finding cards for uploaders. then changed your story to testing servers
So you are saying starview and kryptview are using the same cards? i dont think that is the case at all and both are run by different people. it may be a coincidence that has happened but it is not related at all. as you can see things are not settled with the server and they will be trying to sort that out. one point you are missing here is that kryptview look after there customers and starview dont, there support has been rubbish for years and since kryptview have been running there support has been excellent.
Kryptview wanted to bring the iconnector out for the dw800 but it wasnt possible hense having a new HD box designed with a DVB-C tuner and a DVB-T tuner.
. i know for a fact sv/kv dnt run there own servers. so how do u know for a definate these cards arent being used by both sets of ppl. well all i can say now is the proofs in the pudding my friend. you can sing from the mountain tops about kv looking after ppl. but they can test these other servers with different means. they dont need to stop decryption keys being sent via current operating servers.
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[quote=stevieboy10;1065252]m8 theres alot of things going on behind scene which can not be said on open forums for obvious reason. i never said they are having trouble finding cards for uploaders i said it does take a bit of time to obtain cards. I said they are probably changing there set up to make more safer. People have there own opinions and personally i dont think they are taken anyone for a mug and have looked after there customers for 1 year.
yep and am still sticking to it. you have contradicted yourself on more than 1 occasion. you said they were having trouble finding cards for uploaders. then changed your story to testing servers
. i know for a fact sv/kv dnt run there own servers. so how do u know for a definate these cards arent being used by both sets of ppl. well all i can say now is the proofs in the pudding my friend. you can sing from the mountain tops about kv looking after ppl. but they can test these other servers with different means. they dont need to stop decryption keys being sent via current operating servers.Comment
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amazing how wonderful they are when you are getting free tv and as soon as there is a problem they are out to rip you off. i don't know why they would even bother bringing things back tbh when they read all the whinging and moaning on threads like this.
has it occurred to you that maybe the original uploaders have decided they don't want to take the risk anymore so they have to get new ones. or that if they put all the new cards on the same day and the server comes back up they might as well ring vm and tell them the addresses. i'm sure they have valid reasons for things taking as long as they are.
and as for sv and kv being run by the same people, well that's utter rubbish.Comment
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so for the past year they have provided a service what do you call that? you knew the risk when you brought the box that these boxes could go down anytime. Also why do they sell boxes its a business to make money but customers come back when they see they are being provided with an excellent service.They could just create a name and post from laptop using a PayAs U Go dongle. Their isp or location would be impossible to trace.
My point is they have our money and don't show their clients any loayalty in return. Lets face it, they have made a killing out of their clientelle...which is us.Comment
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Anyone not happy with their KV/SV box should just ~~~~ing sell it, and get themselves a sub instead of constantly moaning when things go wrong , at the end of the day all the moaning in the world aint going to get it sorted any sooner !! The guys fixing it have more to think abt than free tv for the masses . It is their liberty at stake if they get caught. Anybody who has sub from VM should just upgrade their package for a month, and let the guys get on with fixing it ffs
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have u mick or topshoter even read the thread title kv MOAN thread so if yous dont like ppl moaning, then dont read posts in this thread. as for your theory about new cards all going up on one day it doesnt matter if they go up in a day,week or a year there still as traceable as ever. as is everyone who connects to there servers. shout about vpn's allday if you like you cant stop vm checking your net activity, if they suspect you of fraudulently obtaining encrypted television transmissions.amazing how wonderful they are when you are getting free tv and as soon as there is a problem they are out to rip you off. i don't know why they would even bother bringing things back tbh when they read all the whinging and moaning on threads like this.
has it occurred to you that maybe the original uploaders have decided they don't want to take the risk anymore so they have to get new ones. or that if they put all the new cards on the same day and the server comes back up they might as well ring vm and tell them the addresses. i'm sure they have valid reasons for things taking as long as they are.
and as for sv and kv being run by the same people, well that's utter rubbish.
P.S, i jus love a good argument so keep em comingComment
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we all know what the title is but this is a forum so everyone can have there say and give there opinion.have u mick or topshoter even read the thread title kv MOAN thread so if yous dont like ppl moaning, then dont read posts in this thread. as for your theory about new cards all going up on one day it doesnt matter if they go up in a day,week or a year there still as traceable as ever. as is everyone who connects to there servers. shout about vpn's allday if you like you cant stop vm checking your net activity, if they suspect you of fraudulently obtaining encrypted television transmissions.
P.S, i jus love a good argument so keep em coming
as for your theory about new cards all going up on one day it doesnt matter if they go up in a day,week or a year there still as traceable as ever. as is everyone who connects to there servers. shout about vpn's allday if you like you cant stop vm checking your net activity, if they suspect you of fraudulently obtaining encrypted television transmissions.
yes your right here but that is the risk you take with these boxes and if you dont want to take the risk you buy a sub. m8 this isnt an argument you call it a discussion.
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