Kryptview Phoenix A850 HD Box

[faflefevre]

decent attenuation why on earth are you using an attenuator on a 780 no wonder it glitches like f..k be wary of what spending ?140 on a box that has been running over 4 years now and still worth ?80 ?90 used come on shouldnt your post be in the comedy section

[baldybear]

Oh right. Is there any other simple boxes other than kryptview that you recommend then, the dont freeze etc.

dont think so

[monkeyb0yuk]

Because its something and everything ive tried too correct glitching. I was one of the first too have a 780 and with my brother been an ex ntl and cable engineer..I would suggest he would have tried everything to sort this. Signal quality, and how cables are spit off to other services been among them.
The boxes glitch because they struggle with the vermin upgrades. The firmware is improving but im making the poster aware that if hes after other channels than sly sports1...beware.
And keep your commedy comments to yourself unless you can prove a glitchless or reasonable watchable bunch of channels on your system.

[faflefevre]

your putting the poster off buying one you mean.. still well worth the money imo..if you were one of the first to buy one that means you have had it 4 plus years did you pay about ?150 over 4 years or so ago so is that not ?37.50 per year just over ?3 per month or even 75p per week. would that not be worth it for ssp1 alone...
the racing channel alone is ?10 per month so should you really be slagging this box off and putting posters off buying it..if your not happy with it then sell it you will get ?80 ?90 for it now then your total investment will be ?60 ?70 over 4 years not too bad is it

[cactikid]

these boxes are old and i would like to query kv if they have or thinking or modifying bits inside and the reason i ask now is when box was released first much less glitching and you enjoy watching tv,now with the upgrades and movements things are having an effect on the boxes now,reading a post elsewhere someone who had loads of glitching reduced it by changing a capacitor on the power board and now has far less glitching.

[ASEK]

I think its server end, they axed 750 and didn't bother putting some missing channels back to try and peak up server and in some cases its not working simples, u just have to make do im afraid gents.

[faflefevre]

these boxes are old and i would like to query kv if they have or thinking or modifying bits inside and the reason i ask now is when box was released first much less glitching and you enjoy watching tv,now with the upgrades and movements things are having an effect on the boxes now,reading a post elsewhere someone who had loads of glitching reduced it by changing a capacitor on the power board and now has far less glitching.

for people who bought boxes in the first year then boxes are certainly old and maybe showing certain fault symptoms that can only be expected from any electronic unit that is plugged into the mains 24 hours a day..
as capacitors age and are exposed to heat constantly then they can cause problems symptoms could be glitching worst then normal displaying random numbers 0 or faulty tuners can be causing glitching etc but thats not really a mod thats needed to cure this (i think people get confused from what a mod actually is) maybe a lot of peoples boxes are starting to show signs of age to tell the truth for them to last 3 or 4 years is pretty good going.
if people are unsure of the age check on the serial number is should say a780 then year it was made then month so a7801004 would have been made in april 2010 so would make it well over 3 years old..
most normall freeview boxes wont last this long so maybe a lot of these are starting to show fault symptoms take a look at openbox sky f3 etc lucky if these last a full year without breaking down.
just something to think about before blaming server etc

[cactikid]

i know things go i remember the sv and cap issues but since the 780 was released things have changed can a new 780 still handle it if based on same design of many years ago,signal strength ,qam changes and hd added into the signal.?

[satsmo]

MTBF on any box is not really a good indicator of what is actually happening at a server level is it? I know about caps and the so called mod, but then again I know about modifying a large array of electronics equipment.

Sometimes looking at hardware will do nothing more than give you a headache when a problem is not hardware related. Although the QAM changes mean that the box cannot cope as well as it did, I certainly wouldn't put all problems down to that by any means.

[maca]

You really are a clever fella

[satsmo]

No, I just know how not to look stupid

[faflefevre]

what you need to remember is your reading on forums and people tend to only post on forums when they are having problem so you are only reading peoples problems.
theres loads of kv owners who will be happy with the kv who dont even use forums..
the cap issues on the sv is the same as on the kv purely to do with age you have 3.3v feeding the mainprocessor and when the voltage starts dropping even to 3.1v then the box will start freezing and below 3v the box will display a 0 or letter symbol n etc exactly the same issue and as you no the sv didnt connect to a server..
as far as i am aware the 780 is still been made and is working ok

[satsmo]

I read more than just forums, but short of that the SV cap problem has little if nothing to do with what KV is experiencing at the moment, believe me. I know a bit about the SV cap problem when it happened, as we looked at it back then.

Bad caps coming from a different manufacturer is not just related to the Sat STB sector, (KV came from there, with a better chosen cable tuner to meet our UK cable modulation). My retort was that MTBF is not really a good indicator of what is currently happening outside of the hardware of the box unless QAM related.

The caps and MOBO on the KV are quite good in comparison to the older SV models BTW, but that is not really a good benchmark. Once again I have no problem with hardware queries, I do however have problems with smoke and mirrors. Not saying you are the one portraying them, but you are following the general "forum" consensus.

[cactikid]

as like cars they put in a part and find a problem so they change it,i would have thought they might be checking if everything was 100% [ i hear satsmo laughing at 100% you know what i mean] reading the bigger picture of all those posts

yes i had bad caps on an onkyo amp blew after 3 months

[faflefevre]

im not saying all the problems are caused by bad caps im just stating that people who have had a box plugged into the mains 24hours a day for 3 or 4 years may start to experience problems related to leaky caps as all electronics do and yes the caps are better in the kv then the eurovox and starview.
and the newer kv have 105 degrees rated rather then the normal 85 ones in positions were they known to fail..
but yes i understand that a box with a weakish signal this time last year would have no effect were now that same signal will have more of an effect due to the recent changes