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  • IAN LEVER
    Newbie
    • Apr 2008
    • 15

    #1

    no more free t.v?

    So is this the beginning of the end for us Arnet box users??
    is vm going throughout the country region by region issuing new cards hitting us with n3 thus making the box useless? or do we have faith in our fellow users and work to the maxim that "what man does, man can undoes" i await your comments with interest.
  • marshallar
    Top Poster
    • Nov 2008
    • 107

    #2
    Nagravision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    nagravision 3 has been around for several years - sky have been using it successfully (for them) and it has never been compromised. It is used extensively across europe and never been hacked, so we have very little chance. The worrying thing is, there is yet a higher level of nagravision waiting in the wings should it be needed

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    • jumpinjo
      V.I.P. Member
      • Apr 2008
      • 869

      #3
      Originally posted by IAN LEVER
      So is this the beginning of the end for us Arnet box users??
      .
      no m8 like winston said this is the end of the beginning

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      • Fergal
        V.I.P. Member
        • Aug 2008
        • 1007

        #4
        Originally posted by marshallar
        Nagravision - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

        nagravision 3 has been around for several years - sky have been using it successfully (for them) and it has never been compromised. It is used extensively across europe and never been hacked, so we have very little chance. The worrying thing is, there is yet a higher level of nagravision waiting in the wings should it be needed
        Sky dont use nagravision security the use nds which is acompletley different security system.

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        • marshallar
          Top Poster
          • Nov 2008
          • 107

          #5
          Originally posted by Fergal
          Sky dont use nagravision security the use nds which is acompletley different security system.
          not completely different as nds was developed after nds hacked nagravision to develop their own encryption, intent on eliminating competition. Nagravision had flaws which nds resolved in their own method, but sharing similar algorithms, nds has evolved from nagravision

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          • Fergal
            V.I.P. Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 1007

            #6
            You said sky use n3 which it does not thats all i was pointing out.
            Last edited by Fergal; 19 March, 2010, 23:15.

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            • marshallar
              Top Poster
              • Nov 2008
              • 107

              #7
              Originally posted by Fergal
              You said sky use n3 which it does not thats all i was pointing out.
              you are quite right, and i apologise for misleading. I was trying to keep it simple, and since nds evolved from nagravision, they are very closely "related"

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              • marshallar
                Top Poster
                • Nov 2008
                • 107

                #8
                I did read somewhere, that nds has in fact been hacked, and that the hackers have been very substantially paid for their silence. This could suggest that there is a very faint glimmer of light - if it has been done once, it could be repeated

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                • dogsdinner
                  Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 84

                  #9
                  it is all over mate,we are now down to a few weeks tops before the dreaded black screens strike,my understanding is the network is now ready and Virgin will be pushing on with card issuing and it will all be wrapped up by June,that dosent mean all of us will get until June it means it will be all over by then,areas will be falling like dominos in the mean time.

                  my advice would be start looking for a good deal now whilst they are still vailable,i myself have just secured a great deal thanks to one of the lads on this forum,if you have to pay then try and pay as little as you can.

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                  • marshallar
                    Top Poster
                    • Nov 2008
                    • 107

                    #10
                    blackout just before world cup then

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                    • jumpinjo
                      V.I.P. Member
                      • Apr 2008
                      • 869

                      #11
                      Originally posted by marshallar
                      blackout just before world cup then

                      no blackout for some

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                      • marshallar
                        Top Poster
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 107

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jumpinjo
                        no blackout for all
                        .................................

                        c/sharing? satellite?

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                        • cactikid
                          V.I.P. Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 12017

                          #13
                          tall ladders looking at neighbours tv,cheaper than cheap,lip reading a bit a chore

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                          • jumpinjo
                            V.I.P. Member
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 869

                            #14
                            Originally posted by cactikid
                            tall ladders looking at neighbours tv,
                            looks better on your own bud

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                            • bitchmonkey
                              Junior Member
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 38

                              #15
                              i still have sports channels and some of the premium kids ones. has anyone got the same and rescanned? does this work, i dont want to lose the few i have

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