Starview Carling File

[Gibster]

Here's a thought, can the Carling 1.04.ups file be
edited, there must be a program somewhere which
can let you open and edit this.

My thought is that if so, surely the IP address can be
directed towards the kryptview / other servers.

Any thoughts ?

[GastonJ]

Only thought I have is that if it were me selling such a 'gift' that I'd be making sure that only 'my' users could connect, so probably sending something form each box that identified it as one I'd sold (something from the hardware side, say the MAC address), and to make it so no-one cloned one making sure each connection, and request message, was unique...

Hope is a strange thing really....

[mortalrecords]

Here's a thought, can the Carling 1.04.ups file be
edited, there must be a program somewhere which
can let you open and edit this.

My thought is that if so, surely the IP address can be
directed towards the kryptview / other servers.

Any thoughts ?

Well its a thought that I did entertain in my brain box.
In theory its possible as people do hack broadband.
Everything obviously can be hacked,if there was someone that really,I mean really researched it in detail then the Kryptview up loader and server may be cracked,after all a lot of things have been hacked that have had millions of pounds worth of programming in security features. (Sony PlayStation)
so yes,I agree that the source code(which Ive looked at)and are very similar in theory could be manipulated and converted onto another server.The boxes ID and Mac address can all be reprogrammed or cloned.

[cactikid]

would it not be easier to get a kv ,as that connects fine.

[ratman]

kryptview boxes are ip mapped m8 which means only the ips off the boxes they sell will work they aint dummies m8 thats why we with kryptview boxes are still watching tv. im seriously considering going to the other side so will be throwing me box on flee bay as how long u think its gunna be before virmin are doing the same to kryptview they have more money they will close it down im getting rid before it happens ive had 6 months out of it and there is no 12 months timeline

[GastonJ]

They wouldn't know the IP's in advance, since most people in this country are on dynamic IP addresses, so it can't be IP mapped. As I said if it was me I'd be looking for something internal from the box, a serial number or MAC address being sent to confirm each communication, otherwise I'd not let my server answer. However on top of that I'd at least check that the MAC address only connected once to receive the keys for a single channel at a time to stop people cloning my work.

However it's all theory and cable is such a small audience compared to satellite I'm not even sure why anyone bothers really.

[cactikid]

even if you upgrade any starview box on cable no longer works
if it is new back to supplier before been flashed may be safer.

[gadgetfiend]

Well its a thought that I did entertain in my brain box.
In theory its possible as people do hack broadband.
Everything obviously can be hacked,if there was someone that really,I mean really researched it in detail then the Kryptview up loader and server may be cracked,after all a lot of things have been hacked that have had millions of pounds worth of programming in security features. (Sony PlayStation)
so yes,I agree that the source code(which Ive looked at)and are very similar in theory could be manipulated and converted onto another server.The boxes ID and Mac address can all be reprogrammed or cloned.

So you've looked at the SV7 source code ?

[super jumbe]

How much money and time some one wants to spend to crack the egg, when you can earn more going to work and guarantee of earning.

[ByteMaster]

would it not be easier to get a kv ,as that connects fine.

PMSL ....... You have a way with words o wise one

[ByteMaster]

kryptview boxes are ip mapped m8 which means only the ips off the boxes they sell will work they aint dummies m8 thats why we with kryptview boxes are still watching tv. im seriously considering going to the other side so will be throwing me box on flee bay as how long u think its gunna be before virmin are doing the same to kryptview they have more money they will close it down im getting rid before it happens ive had 6 months out of it and there is no 12 months timeline

I think your getting ips and macs completely arseways here m8 . Might be better to keep reading........

[ByteMaster]

Here's a thought, can the Carling 1.04.ups file be
edited, there must be a program somewhere which
can let you open and edit this.

My thought is that if so, surely the IP address can be
directed towards the kryptview / other servers.



Any thoughts ?

KV server no. Or rather not unless they approve your mac addy.

Other c*ble servers of course.

[raster ozi]

most boxes will be sitting behind a router running NAT so the ip address will be masked.
They will also connect through a modem with mac address masking so what exactly do the servers latch onto to prove its one of their boxes?

[ByteMaster]

most boxes will be sitting behind a router running NAT so the ip address will be masked.
They will also connect through a modem with mac address masking so what exactly do the servers latch onto to prove its one of their boxes?

The MAC ADDRESS !!!
Any box with a corrupted mac address never connects or rather connected. Repairing the mac address of the box allowed the server to recognise the box as part of the family and authorised ecm's to the box via a recognised MAC address.

[GastonJ]

Actually, it it were me, I'd be encoding the MAC address of the device in the connection message from box to server and have the server authenticate against a known list of boxes I'd sold. It's not that difficult to do, since the MAC address is kept in the hardware side of the box. Therefore any program written to connect to my servers (that I don't have I hasten to add) would be required to pick up the MAC address from the hardware and communicate that address while connecting in order to receive a reply/key.

It would also aid me to know when someone had attempted a clone, since there should only be requesting information for a single channel, any that requested more than one channel would be blacklisted. Knowing the MAC's would allow authorisation or blacklisting as I see fit.

Not rocket science, not that I'd do such a thing.