15p rise per hour in your wages

[thered]

It's almost compensating people for not getting off their ar@es and getting worthwhile qualifications to get a decent job. ;-)

its normally the people who are none qualified which do lower payed work who actually do graft and get their hands dirty

while the people who are qualified sit around on their ar@ses doing ~~~ all

without the minnions the qualified are nothing and having a qualification doesnt mean you are any better than someone who has none

i know many people who are as thick as ~~~~ academically but are amazing grafters in terms of using their hands, building or being mecahnically minded in fixing cars for example

i know many others who are bright at exams but have the sense of a mashed spud

being qualified in general means you are good at copying and reciting books what other people have written

and there isnt too much clever about that

[Shady]

have to agree with my learned friend thered...
mate of mine; builder/plasterer/jack of all trades left school at 13 no qualifications, could hardly read or write...
another pal of mine, degrees coming out of ar5e, working in a factory...guess which one goes on cruises and owns his own house?

[thered]

companies aren't stupid, they will find ways around it,

like the company who my partner works for, she works 12 hour shifts, and gets paid for her lunch hour,

they have just been told they are getting a 40p an hour pay rise, but,

they are loosing there "paid" lunch break, so in fact she will be ?32 a month worse off, after a pay rise.

so please dont feel sorry for the private sector, they've been getting away with low pay rates for years.

your right there is a part of me that thinks that half these businesses are using the credit crunch and fuel prices as a tool not to increase salaries in fact some have cut them and cut contracted hours of employees my father has recently had his travelling time stopped which means that he now gets nothing if he has to travel 2 hours to work and 2 hours back depending on where he is working

4 hours a day some days what would have been overtime is now nothing he now has to get up earlier than his coleagues to pick them up and take them to the job for 8am no matter where it is

if he sets of at 5 he gets nothing extra for doing it boss says they need to do it to get the work they get nowt for the return either so they could get in at 7.30 at night be out from 5am till 7.30 pm

and just get paid from 8 till 4.30 it might be genuinely keeping the firm afloat but i think that there may be just a bit of an excuse behind it to trim wages

i wonder if they will all see their wages returned to normal though when we are booming again and they will get thier lunch breaks and travelling time back

or will the bosses just spin more 5hite

i wonder ?