Bonny Jockland

[thered]

As we have a few jocks on here i am wondering your thoughts on alec salmond and the growing talks for scotland to become independant.

we can run a poll if mods want ?

Do you see it as a good thing ?
A bad thing ?
Good idea but wouldnt work?
Or couldnt give a ~~~~ ?

Personally i wouldnt like to see it no real reason just for the tradition that we have in my time always been the United kingdom.

I also see that after a few years of independance we (england)would probably have to bail you out

there may be many english who want to seperate as scotlands economy seems heavily subsidised by us and might see it as a savings cut

your thoughts and a poll would be good

[gmb45]

well do you want a poll adding ?

[thered]

well do you want a poll adding ?

yes that would be great your powers of deduction astound me gmb

your thoughts and a poll would be good

[gmb45]

yes that would be great your powers of deduction astound me gmb

done coont

[zaphodbb]

personally, i think it would be a bad idea to even start this thread. even simple stuff on here gets hate and venom, and this kind of stuff would only be fuel for the haters on both sides. on this occasion i think its best for everyone to keep their views private. come on guys this is not what dk is about

[gmb45]

hmmmmm will see how it goes first.

[chroma]

Independence, all the way.

We'd wind up having to bail out England in a few years though, not the other way around
Who do you think has all the north sea oil?

Scotland has disproportionate public spending, true, but this would be offset by the oil reserve at least over the sort to mid term.
Whilst Scotland is still highly dependant on its oil reserve it should start to stem the bleeding and begin a process of serious redevelopment, this would allow Scotland to become fully independent and prosperous over a short period of time, say 10 to 15 years, all the while feeling the sting of RBS and HBOS bailouts, once things get back on an even keel there Scotland would be in a far better position to prosper with a sold economy, free from debt.
As it currently stands id expect a 3 to maybe 4 billion deficit each year.
Whilst this sounds like a lot of money, its really only a drop in the bucket in international terms, plow some spending into industry and production and up the GDP by even a percent and this deficit would wind up back in the black

Short term its going to be just as hard as we're facing at present, long term it would work out well, with the caveat that we elect proper leadership to pull it off. without that and it would all go tits up in short order.

[thered]

personally, i think it would be a bad idea to even start this thread. even simple stuff on here gets hate and venom, and this kind of stuff would only be fuel for the haters on both sides. on this occasion i think its best for everyone to keep their views private. come on guys this is not what dk is about

~~~~ you you ~~~~ing **** ***** **** shuT the **** mo ******


i think we at dk are nice and civil and we should see how it pans out there is no reason for anyone to get all defensive and upset

we have rights to opinions and we should all stick to them and not abuse anyone for differing from our own

[xant14]

Independence, all the way.


Who do you think has all the north sea oil?

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When has England or US give a ~~~~ as to who own it?

Is that weapons of mass destruction I see you harbouring?

[chroma]

When has England or US give a ~~~~ as to who own it?

Is that weapons of mass destruction I see you harbouring?

You been watching me in the shower again?
I'm all for some serious Genital Warfare

[xant14]

You been watching me in the shower again?
I'm all for some serious Genital Warfare

I ain't going anywhere near your Gareloch heed.

[thered]

Independence, all the way.

We'd wind up having to bail out England in a few years though, not the other way around
Who do you think has all the north sea oil?

You may have a valid point there but as its part of the north sea it is not classed as scottish economy at present

im not going in to in and outs because i have no idea what will happen but i would imagine that if parliament decided to grant independance to scotland then it would want some kind of share in whatever reserves are left

[nara]

Alex Salmond - Good idea. As a politician he can run rings round the Three Stooges in Westminster.

Independence - Bad idea.

[charlie1952]

scotlands oil dont think so fat cats oil fae yank land

[Stuart 0366]

scotlands oil dont think so fat cats oil fae yank land

That may be but the revenue is tasked to Westminster from the produce which I have heard that Mr. Salmond is trying to redirect to the Scottish parliament. Good luck to him cos it never worked since devolution was initiated.

I the revenues from different things were sorted out right then Scotland may stand a chance at independence. If not...here comes that sinking feeling.

I would like to see independence but not at the expense of any potential political repercussions from our neighbours. If it is to be done it isn't just the Scots that need to agree to it in my opinion but the rest of Britain as each has a claim to independence...even England.