Engineering apprenticeship

[mickydibble]

Hi guys my son as been offered an engineering apprenticeship for training he seems to think that would be cars which he isn't interested in ,in fact he wanted an electrician apprenticeship .
What would the engineering one actually be do you think it's cars or what is it and what would be involved and what capacity of work any ideas guys n gals thnx Micky

[chroma]

My brothers got an engineering apprenticeship and works all day machining parts on a cnc.
Seems to be the standard nowadays.
It depends where you wind up i guess, he moves around departments from making whatever the hell in the machine, to quality control, to assembly and some blast furnace paint shop thing that i know he hates.

Doesn't seem to be very car related if im being honest, just glorified factory production.

[mickydibble]

Thnx chroma, thought as much may get him to ring see if there is any movement in what they offer?as I said he really wants to do electrician apprenticeship .he had to do some test first called a genesys assessment first

[Curious123]

Would they not have given him some sort of an overview of what he would be learning during the apprenticeship?

[chroma]

Judging from my brothers situation id say theres wisdom in being an electrician.
Mech Engineering is on its way out... at least in the UK.

He got paid off last year and taken back on when the company landed another temporary contract.
Jobs constantly on the line and i feel for him.
Hes became just another of Thatchers shipbuilders/coalminers and steelworkers

Unless hes willing to fly to some Asian sweatshop there's no real call for his line of work any more.

Sad fact is the UK are happier with their hands in peoples pockets and swaping ponzi scheme debts than actual good old hard graft and production
UK engineering is a shadow of what it once was, a frozen bereft landscape shuffling to the dole office :'(

I wouldn't wish my brothers situation on anyone. Did his time to become a relic, an emasculated, obsolete relic
Worse still is hes oldschool like me and NEEDS tto be working. Unlike me though he left school and went into his trade, its all he knows...

[chucklor]

Most mechanical apprentices are usually taught the basics in both mech and electrical in the first year mickey, if your lad is wanting specifically to go into the electrical trade then he will need to phone up and try and get a placement with JTL,you can get there number from Loughborough college, they take on electrical apprentices and then sub them out to contractors. He will need quite decent school grades to get on though. If he gets a placement with them he will usually do 3months at college and 3 months at work, I know plenty of sparks including myself who will give these new technician a helping hand up in their early years, but be advised the money is absolute shite for the first 2 years we usually give them sweetners to keep them encouraged....chuck

[daithi]

im a fitter but its nothing to do with mechanics it all
about welding lathes mills refridgeration hydrauliics plcs and a bit of electronics
also cover pumps plumbing etc
and an ass load of maths and science for some reason

[patkins]

Like daithi, I started out as mechanic and finished as fitter.
A lot of engineering (what your lad may be facing) is computerized now and it is becoming an uncertain trade (job security) to be in.
I have a nephew who has just finished a fitter apprenticeship only to be laid off because the company didn't have an opening for him as qualified.
If it were me I would encourage the son to follow his heart as a lecky even though he may not get a start at the apprenticeship right away. It's soul destroying to train as something you don't want just because it is available at the time.
Engineering which will initially be workshop training can also be, and this is just a personal opinion, boring as I've always been lucky with the choice of working indoors and out and would not like to be confined to a bench all day.
Remember mickey-it's what he wants that matters. Best of luck to the lad.

[mickydibble]

we've been given a tip of someone who knows the boss of a company that are thinking of getting another electricians apprentice and to ring them,it is where someone we know trained with them and is now his own boss doing it himself and as been for years doing well.
anyway hes rang but the boss isn't there at moment and to ring later.

[mickydibble]

Ok guys back here again he as an interview and apparently it's electrical engineering ,is there anything he should know about this and what would be involved,or is it just another factory shite job. ? Thnx peeps

[thered]

Hi guys my son as been offered an engineering apprenticeship for training he seems to think that would be cars which he isn't interested in ,in fact he wanted an electrician apprenticeship .
What would the engineering one actually be do you think it's cars or what is it and what would be involved and what capacity of work any ideas guys n gals thnx Micky

when i were a lad i started on an engineers course at college it started as 6 weeks training at which point they were supposed to find you a work placement for 3 days a week

after the initial six weeks i learned how to make a LUG and a hacksaw handle i had just moved on too using a lathe when we were all booted off the course

they only had 1 work placement for us so the rest of us wre kicked to the kerb and that was the end of my engineering days


as said in thread its an unstable business to be in i used to deliver steel to a lot of big engineering outfits and they are on skeleton staff the work is not what it used to be

i started an electricians course myself 2 year ago and give it up through ill health and to be brutally honest the fact that i spent most of my 1 day a week at collecge doing ~~~~ all the pace was ridiculous it was a 3 year course that could have been taken care off in 3 terms easy you spent entire lessons waiting for a machine to do tests

i once waited 4 weeks to move on because we all had to check and log our tests before we could start the next topic 4 weeks of doing ~~~~ all i didnt know why i was going

[johnboy1974]

micky if the lad wants to be sparky then scout around the local collages and get the boy on a course. Good students usually find there way into jobs due to the collages links with industry.

[patkins]

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There's other videos on this page.I googled it as ,with the changing technology, the idea you have of what something might be will have moved on by now.