Electricty - Does It Have A Weight

[grizzlygaz]

well hurry up with the scales cuz i wanna weigh some flour

Flour ?
Round here we call it 'Charlie'

[TheCoder]

blinding idea,
~~~~ everthing on a set of scales, switch it on and see what happens...

A set of scales measures weight rather than mass. Any electrical circuit produces electromagnetic energy which will alter the 'local' weight (but not the mass). You would have absolutely no idea which effect was causing a weight change !

The only real way to measure such a thing would be to attempt to measure any surpluss electrical charge within the conducter BUT, as its a conducter, by the very definition such a thing cant exist. A charged conducter would be paradoxical !

[Shady]

SCIENCE BE DAMNED!!!! I WANT TO WEIGH SOME LECCY!!!!

[maca]

A set of scales measures weight rather than mass. Any electrical circuit produces electromagnetic energy which will alter the 'local' weight (but not the mass). You would have absolutely no idea which effect was causing a weight change !

The only real way to measure such a thing would be to attempt to measure any surpluss electrical charge within the conducter BUT, as its a conducter, by the very definition such a thing cant exist. A charged conducter would be paradoxical !

Thats what i was going to say m8

[TheCoder]

yeah.. i understand that.. but you weigh the whole circuit.. current on and current off..

A pointless exercise !

The excess electrons are within your current source so you'd be measuring their weight whether the circuit is on or off. The position of the electrons within the circuit would be irrelevant so you aren't proving anything whatsoever !

[Shady]

i SAID science be damned...

[RedSpider]

jesus coder!! why don't you just marry electricity?!?!

[maca]

he's gastonj's son

[TheCoder]

jesus coder!! why don't you just marry electricity?!?!

Just trying to answer the original question

[Mjolinor]

Hmm, interesting to see that we can make threads full of shite without Gimp being involved.

[grizzlygaz]

Just trying to answer the original question

Heres a question for you, so this should put a lot of what you say into perspective.

What do you think a powerstation that connects to the electrical grid actually generates ?
What I'm asking, is what do you think it actually manufactures ?

[Mjolinor]

Heres a question for you, so this should put a lot of what you say into perspective.
What do you think a powerstation that connects to the electrical grid actually generates ?
What I'm asking, is what do you think it actually manufactures ?

A lot of heat, noise and potential difference

[grizzlygaz]

A lot of heat, noise and potential difference

Thats true, and in a completed circuit, a lot of vibration, but in an open ended ciruit, a charge (or potential difference).

My first job on leaving school was an apprentice armature winder, we used to have 440 volts supply DC rectified available for driving industrial armature type motors.

If I held the positive and negative wires withing about 2 inches from each other, the ~~~~ing things would arc across like you see in a frankenstein movie.

[Mjolinor]

Thats true, and in a completed circuit, a lot of vibration, but in an open ended ciruit, a charge (or potential difference).

If it aint in a completed circuit it also make a feerkin big bang, lots of sparks, burning, flames etc until it is no longer in a state where it can make a potential difference..

[Canker_Canison]

thought about it some more... IF we tried it with a radio, and it DOES change weight... how do we ascertain whether its down to the leccy or the little people inside the radio?

I was expecting you to get to the conclusion the a fully charged battery will weigh more than a flat battery.

But again this is dead end. Since you cannot create or destroy anything, only convert it from one form to another. The battery will weigh the same, all that's changed is the positve electrons have been changed to negative thingies.

Here's another flash of GCSE physics.... Although we connect a battery positive & negative. The actual flow of electrons goes from the negative to the positive.