fight back

[dov13]

can i ask what is the matter with people in the uk dont you stand up to your local goverment dont you know goverment is there to serve you not the other way round why do you pay so much tax but get nothing back all it takes is for people to say no more if they say you go to jail for none payment imagen if all of you said get stufft they can do zero brgsdov

[krazylegz]

easier said than done m8

[shady77]

maybe we like it this way? how dare you suggest that we as a race are cowardly? why, we ruled the world once upon a time.

[dov13]

maybe we like it this way? how dare you suggest that we as a race are cowardly? why, we ruled the world once upon a time.

so did rome and look what happend there brgs dov13

[caveman_nige]

compared to which country?

can i ask what is the matter with people in the uk dont you stand up to your local goverment dont you know goverment is there to serve you not the other way round why do you pay so much tax but get nothing back all it takes is for people to say no more if they say you go to jail for none payment imagen if all of you said get stufft they can do zero brgsdov

where do you live? Where you born there? What tax do you pay? What do you do when you don't like what your government does? I am curious as to which country you are comparing the UK to.. it seems you know somewhere better, where is it?

I read in another thread that you believe in free speech which is good, so do we, but when offering an opinion it should be open to discussion.

[dov13]

where do you live? Where you born there? What tax do you pay? What do you do when you don't like what your government does? I am curious as to which country you are comparing the UK to.. it seems you know somewhere better, where is it?

i was born in the uk i lived most of my life there then i was in the army i came back to uk and but left the uk for a better life because people in uk are like sheep i spoke my mind out and the powers that were in goverment did not like what i said so i said stuff you lot as for were i live i dont pay tax dont get me wrong i love uk just cant stand the pratts that run the place and it willnever change till people stand up and say no more but sorry to say people are shit scared of speaking there minds in the uk but one day you will all be sorry when big brother takes over thenit will be to late and it will not be you but your children how will suffer i served my country and what for just aload of lying bunch of poltical ass holes that dont give a toss about people in the uk all they want is for you to work and pay taxes till you drop deaddov13

[caveman_nige]

fair enough. We know polititians lie but we know we must also pay taxes... we do not want anarchy or a revolution either though. it is true that a large part of the population will sit back take whatever is said to them as gospel. and the weather also sucks...

do you know of a place that is not this way?

[C64]

i was born in the uk i lived most of my life there then i was in the army i came back to uk and but left the uk for a better life because people in uk are like sheep i spoke my mind out and the powers that were in goverment did not like what i said so i said stuff you lot as for were i live i dont pay tax dont get me wrong i love uk just cant stand the pratts that run the place and it willnever change till people stand up and say no more but sorry to say people are shit scared of speaking there minds in the uk but one day you will all be sorry when big brother takes over thenit will be to late and it will not be you but your children how will suffer i served my country and what for just aload of lying bunch of poltical ass holes that dont give a toss about people in the uk all they want is for you to work and pay taxes till you drop deaddov13

You love the UK so much that you left it?

Why didn't you stay and fight since you feel so strong about it?

You are the one that ran away with your tail between your legs.

I'm perfectly happy paying my taxes that support the NHS etc, far better than living in a country with no public health service such as the USA, no insurance then you are left to die.

[dov13]

fair enough. We know polititians lie but we know we must also pay taxes... we do not want anarchy or a revolution either though. it is true that a large part of the population will sit back take whatever is said to them as gospel. and the weather also sucks...

do you know of a place that is not this way?

sorry mate but you sound just like the sheep as for taxes if you read your history its in fact illgaly to remove money from ones wages same as vat but nobody cares as for a revolution mabe thats what is needed to wake up the true feelings of the people power to the people brgs dov13

[caveman_nige]

you don't half talk bollocks mate....

[dov13]

You love the UK so much that you left it?

Why didn't you stay and fight since you feel so strong about it?

You are the one that ran away with your tail between your legs.

I'm perfectly happy paying my taxes that support the NHS etc, far better than living in a country with no public health service such as the USA, no insurance then you are left to die.

i did not run away i left because people did not have the balls to stand up and fight with me i was blacklisted for haveing the guts to speak the truth and were i live i too get free health care but we look after our own here as for the usa its the armpit of the world as for saying i ran away from the uk wrong i nearly died on active duty for you lot brgdov13

[dov13]

you don't half talk bollocks mate....

true brgs dov13

[caveman_nige]

hmmm, how to win friends and influence people...... i reckon you ran away because nobody liked you.

i do not see much of a valid discussion coming from your side.

[shady77]

:as for taxes if you read your history its in fact illgaly to remove money from ones wages same as vat

Really? I don't propose to know where you gained this information, perhaps from a history book in the wonderful utopia you now reside, where the people live in wonderful harmony, overseen by the kindly rulers who provide every public service for free and the children play with unicorns and fairies......

Reality check.
In most democratically operated countries, the government collect taxes. And perhaps most importantly to my point, they-make-the-laws.
Taxes have been collected since time immemorial.
And you believe that a certain government in times past decreed that a law be passed to make the taxing of the populace illegal.
You also, by your statement above, believe that all governments since this law was passed have acted illegally and have not bothered to change said law to make taxation legal.

Governments may be flawed. On this we can agree. But what you propose is plain stupidity.

I would like to hear more on your ideas for change.
Please tell me how the
NHS,
Road networks,
Refuse collection
Police
Armed Forces
Fire Service
Sanitation
etc will be paid for after your proposed revolution....?

I get the sense that a mod may close this thread, but I respectfully request it remain open until we have an answer.

[Lanxman]

I was thinking that last night shady, about the tread being closed as It seems to be turning into a bit of a free for all. Will be fun to see his reply to that. I especially like the unicorns and fairies bit. Haha.