Murdochs Pirate TV hackers

[benny/9]

have you seen this video? Murdochs Pirate TV hackers
Last nights Panorama programme on how Murdoch's NDS
hacked OnDigital and Canal+ add tt to the link

h**p://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01dlvbm/Panorama_Murdochs_TV_Pirates/

[poppyjack]

Blimey, great viewing, the Murdoch's are Pirates, who would of thought it!

[mr football]

Lee Gibling is a nonce who ran off to turky with his 15 year old girlfriend

[TheCoder]

Very old news with a slight update. Most of this stuff happened over 10 years ago and has been covered many times.

Dunno why its suddenly become newsworthy after all this time - guees its just open season on the Murdoch clan.

[the rock]

very old news this goes back to the hack for cable boxes

[TheCoder]

hmm, a very interesting link !

Murdoch cops blast over pay TV pirates

Direct link to the mentioned emails

http://www.afr.com/rw/AFR/Web/Library/Zip/pay_tv_pirates_emails.zip

After reading a few of those, you definately get the feeling that NDS security consider themselves on a par with MI6/KGB and above any domestic law that interferes with their goals.

Considering NDS hired two high ranking ex UK police officers to head up the UK operation you really do have to wonder at the links between Sky group and the police, especially in light of the phone hacking revelations.

[toysoft]

Chinese Ex-Wife of Rupert Murdoch, a chinese spy ?

???: 06/17/13

June 17, 2013 Monday
Pan-network insider: Positive divorce that woman is the General Political espionage
Pan net insider recently had learned from Beijing, the current worldwide uproar, that the media of divorce PLA General Political Department of the woman is the head of BPI card spy.

Beijing Pan-China network insiders said on one of his news source from the General Staff, said the General Political Department is currently a major earthquake, in response to the sudden divorce news. Transmitting from Beijing insider news out of the limited view, the eminent female spy could become Chinese espionage history's most legendary success story. The female freshman year in college when he was the General Political Department of the Guangzhou branch in absorption, trying to train to become a spy expatriates in Hong Kong. The female is very hard for the person to succeed in college and entering the United States during the exchange identities. Because outstanding performance, and in a very short period of time to get a U.S. green card, to get the attention the General Political Department, and formally decided to develop this member. After a successful arrangement, the woman in the first class with an international media empire in Hong Kong COO sit together, and ultimately into the Hong Kong media.

Beijing insiders said, was being set back Hong Kong China, the General Political Department of the pressure is very large, the task of controlling the entire Hong Kong media that the PLA General Political Department is responsible. General Political Department not only directly make arrangements for Phoenix, but also to control by controlling shares in Hong Kong newspapers. For some Western media controlled by the Hong Kong media, the officers went into the most effective way to become. Completely contrary to the General Political Department's surprise, the woman working ability is very strong, not only become the only Chinese TV management women, and start with the big boss about media empire on love, and eventually became his wife. This is after the founding of the General Political Department never had the results, but also to the General Political Department spy chief, prince leaves a say in the party election rather overstating vain.

Pan networks concentrated in verifying the news to understand the background of the woman and found it very extraordinary experience, including key people on the plane and get to know, at a cocktail party with a splash of wine way to attract attention, so artificial insemination birth a series of bizarre, surreal means, it is more than a Hollywood blockbuster spy even more exciting. Pan nets investigation found that the woman at Yale University tuition sources are not clear. Media reports its massive get an MBA tuition is intersected with the woman's boyfriend for five years to help. But Pan networks found before this, the boyfriend is not a rich man, surnamed Li, Chinese gymnastics is just one star in California opened a gymnastics school managers; And this manager position or through the woman, surnamed Li, Chinese gymnastics star with Introduction obtain. The woman, surnamed Li, Chinese gymnastics star with his wife live on campus of California State University roommate.

In addition, Pan-China network also suspect a Yale MBA students in Hong Kong there is no need Yuanduchongyang trainee. The most strange is that a trainee will buy first class ticket? It was in 1996, which is not a wealthy woman. Just before that same year, the woman he still out about her surnamed Li, Chinese gymnastics star opened in gymnastics college work.

More interesting is, Pan-China Network found that the female may apply for a U.S. green card cheating. The female in 1987 by a pair of American foreign teachers come to the U.S. to study, eventually became the mistress and the grounds of marriage apply for a U.S. green card. According to the man of the house, said he was really only the woman lived together for 4-5 months, because it was discovered she had with her boyfriend mentioned above having an affair while separated. Although it has worked hard compound, but eventually after marriage two years and seven months divorce. This obviously does not meet the requirements of the United States to keep at least two years of marriage valid.

According to the Pan-network messages and what they do background checks, sorting out the following schedule:

In 1986, the PLA General Political Department of absorption.
In 1987, after school to learn English for Americans the opportunity to meet a teacher.
February 1988, the use of this study in the U.S. foreign teachers for Americans to give up Chinese studies.
February 1990, with the U.S. teacher married.
June 1990, met another one is considered later to help the woman's boyfriend to pay tuition at Yale University.
July 1990, with the teacher separated from her husband.
February 1992 to ensure that the U.S. green card.
September 1992, with the teacher to divorce her husband.
1993, graduated from California State University, a bachelor's degree.
In 1995, her boyfriend went to Beijing that he went to Yale University to study MBA.
In 1996, after returning debriefing, officially became the General Political Department intelligence officers.
In 1996, several agents with the General Political Department, the successful first class on an airplane with a TV COO sitting next to and get to know.
May 1996, by which TV COO become a Hong Kong TV's apprentices.
In 1996, the trainee end, back to Yale University to complete their studies.
1996, graduated from the Yale School of Management, to obtain MBA.
In 1997, the Hong Kong TV formal employment and management positions to become the only Chinese women.
June 30, 1997, Hong Kong's return.
1997, with the international media giant, the TV bosses acquaintance.
June 1998, the official start date with the international media giant.
June 1999, the international media giant divorce, more than ten days after the marriage with the woman.
November 2001, the Women's artificial insemination birth to a daughter, to formalize property inheritance.
June 2013, the media giant to the woman filed for divorce.

Web exclusive Pan disclosure.

[Meat-Head]

Huh does anybidy care

?44555565566/day to watch repeats of repeats, repeated 20 times a day

[GastonJ]

Old news. Do you think other companies aren't examining competitors goods/methods/software etc? Happens all the time, however they don't normally publish the results so that the other company loses out. Do you think the CIA and MI5 etc don't?



UNCLASSIFIED


Problems and alternatives

Government Spying for Commercial Gain


Mark Burton
With the end of the Cold War, the roles and missions of US intelligence organizations are under scrutiny. Assumptions that presuppose the primacy of economic competitiveness in the post-Cold War era are spurring a reevaluation of the traditional view that the US Government should not use its intelligence assets to give US companies competitive advantages over foreign firms. Analysis of the concept of such government-sponsored industrial spying, however, reveals numerous potential problems. These include legal issues, limited cost effectiveness, multinational corporations and, potentially, an increased risk of international conflict if such actions are pursued aggressively. Nevertheless, other countries are doing it, US companies are victims of it, and the US Government has to decide what to do about it.
For the US, the options range from maintaining current policies to enacting drastic measures, including high import tariffs or economic sanctions, against those countries whose governments spy on US businesses. A more reasonable alternative would be the establishment of one or more international agreements between the US and its allies and possibly other countries that would restrict governments from using their intelligence capabilities to spy for commercial gain.


Conclusions

While current US policy, as recommended by Gates, does not include providing private business with government intelligence data for commercial gain, the question is apparently still open. It is a valid question and not simply a search for new missions by intelligence organizations seeking to preserve their budgets.
Nevertheless, the problems associated with legal issues, cost-effectiveness, multinational corporations, and the increased risk of international conflict indicate that government-sponsored spying for commercial gain is not worth the effort. Defensive counterintelligence policies aimed at combating foreign intelligence in the economic arena are worth continuing, but they are not a true long-term solution to the problem.
The formulation of one or more multinational agreements is, perhaps, the most reasonable long-term approach to take. Just as countries have developed treaties to reduce the dangers associated with military rivalry, so too can they develop mutual understanding and agreements regarding economic rivalry. Such agreements, if taken seriously, could foster an international environment in which economic competition would not be the harbinger of conflict among nations but would instead be the stimulus for business innovation and improved living standards worldwide.
https://www.cia.gov/library/center-f...2a02p_0001.htm

[Meat-Head]

CONFUSED

Just do what the germans do, buy it no matter the cost, steal the research, then close the company or sell it at such a price with no research its not worth doing

[GastonJ]

CONFUSED

Just do what the germans do, buy it no matter the cost, steal the research, then close the company or sell it at such a price with no research its not worth doing

MS and a few other software companies have been doing that for a while now. Either buy the competition and close it down, or just beat the hell out of the competition if you don't want to buy it. I think MS had that in mind for Skype, but found out that Skype was much better than MSN. Rupes is no different, that's why he owns Sky Germany and Sky Italia, although in one case at least he was left with little choice.

[manhatten]

Just had a mail telling me that Rupes now owns The Cloud Wifi

[Meat-Head]

So does that mean fiwn the lub using the wifi going to get repeats of threads from dk, same post repeaded 3 times a day, then the thread you want repeating nil poi

[GastonJ]

I can't get the cloud, or any other wifi really so at least I escape the repeats and the rest of it. I do wonder whether Rupes is going for ISP's so that he can halt feeds from EPL games going to those users that use his ISP's. Getting any, or all, ISP's to ban/block sites is very difficult at least. A court order can only apply to named ISP's and my ISP keeps falling under the radar every time *shrug*

Though:

We;ve been part of BSkyB since February 2011 ***8211; so we*re uniquely placed to take WiFi to the next level.

So it's hardly recent.

[toysoft]

Neil Chenoweth from AFR reports :

I***8217;ve always regarded News Corporation's accounts as a little like Great Uncle Albert's watch. There's always something rattling around inside and if you shake it about enough, something interesting invariably falls out. Nothing wrong with that!

Today's Australian Federal Court of Appeal decision is horribly complicated but essentially focuses on a 1989 meeting where execs for four different subsi...diaries handed around a $3 billion cheque. The cheque ended up where it started. Just over a decade later it triggered a $A2 billion tax deduction after the $A fell against the greenback. It was an internal load between News Corp subsidiaries so there was no actual loss. But the court confirmed there was a $2 billion tax deduction.

That's the second big tax win for News Corp. Two separate internal shuffles that cost News nothing--nil-zero have given it $3.5 billion in tax deductions. Noice

Saturday 21st of July 2012: Numbers game

It's always a happy surprise to find long-lost mementos in a bottom drawer ***8211; photographs perhaps, the odd document say, or even a $2 billion unsecured demand note.
For public companies, these little discoveries spread cheer all around, particularly if it's two days before the end of the financial year.
On June 28, 2002, the News Ltd accountants were rummaging around the bottom of the filing cabinet when they came across documentation about a rather large US-dollar loan from one News subsidiary to another subsidiary called News Publishers Holdings
Naturally, they felt bound to repay the loan immediately. This incurred a $1.4 billion foreign exchange loss, which naturally was a tax deduction, as the Federal Court found this week, correcting a little misunderstanding by the Tax Office. Actually, News had reported another $630 million FX loss to another News company in June 2001 as well.
After News Corp reincorporated in the US in 2005, its accountants shuffled $35 billion of assets in a way that made no difference to capitalisation but created a $1.5 billion Australian tax deduction.
All up, that is $3.5 billion in Australian tax deductions from internal shuffles in Rupert Murdoch 's empire. It's like a little $1 billion present from Australian taxpayers to Our Rupe, though it's hard to locate the records of this in the News annual accounts.
Such modesty. That's terrific work by News accountants, perhaps less terrific work by the Australian government. As government mishandling goes, it's up there with pink batts in the ceiling and Building the Education Revolution.
There is a national newspaper that will be right onto a case of government profligacy like that.
Expect a campaign.

Saturday 03rd of July 2010
His paper money has great appeal

June 30 was a red-letter day for News Corporation's Australian princeling, John Hartigan, beginning with a resounding win in the Federal Court of Appeal against the naysayers at the Tax Office who were trying to accuse Rupert Murdoch's global empire of some sort of tax avoidance.
News ran into the problem back in 2005, after it had reincorporated in the US, that its US and UK operations were still owned by Australian subsidiaries which had a capital value of $39 billion. Moving them to the US could trigger a huge capital gain.
News got around this by having the subsidiary companies pay a $4 billion dividend to News Australia Holdings, then bought back their shares for $35 billion.
The dividend and the payment for the buyback were transferred to a US company which set up new holding companies in the US for $39 billion, all in the one day.
News Corp had lost nothing. Everything was the same, with a new US holding company . . . except that by paying part of the price as a dividend News was able to claim a $5 billion capital loss, which led to an Australian tax deduction of $1.5 billion.
There was absolutely no suggestion that it shaped the deal like that just to save a little money on tax, the Appeals Court ruled on Wednesday. No one could be more surprised at the result than News itself.
How much did this paper shuffling cost Australia as a tax benefit? The Prince likes to think of it as Australian taxpayers paying $567 million to see the back of Rupert Murdoch. This was loads better than the first plan, which was to buy him a gold watch
But really, that's all so 2005. Last Tuesday our Australian honcho, Our Harto was focused on new tax plays.
The changes afoot include a move by a company called Tejeku, which owns what used to be the old Herald and Weekly Times group of newspapers, which News took over back in 1987. Tejeku filed a notice it was about to redeem out of profits up to $1.2 billion of its own shares held by News Ltd at market value after redeeming $417 million of shares on June 26 last year.
Who would believe that News earned so much in Australia? Clearly that doesn't include the group's national newspaper.