Alcohol Problem

[Evastar]

CBT (cognitive behavior therapy) and various other types of therapy are proving to be very helpful, if you want any of the course work I do in my classes just pm me

[smirnoff_rules]

let us all know how u get on tonight m8 ,,. and give it more than one shot even if u dont like .. bet millions walk out on there first visit and wish they hadnt ..



also why is the doctor giving u so much diazepam ?

its more additive that alcohol

[garry1312]

Good step forward that is mate getting in and out of the pub without a drink. Just remind yourself now that you've done it once you can do it again. I never stopped going to the pub except for the first 2 weeks when I was really ill. Just remember that if you do ever have a drink you haven't failed, just pick yourself up and start again

I think I done well there mate at that point I had not told my mum I had a drink problem so I could have easily ordered a pint without any grief or anything.

I am keeping myself busy today right now gutting the house (Womans work ) then will take the mutt out for a long walk go do some shopping and then go to that meeting that I am honestly dreading

[reddevil157]

Fair play to ya garry for having the bollox to put it on a forum, shows you've got the determination & you've started doing something about it already. Hope you get encouragement from the meeting 2nite. Best of luck with it.

[tshirtman]

don't be worried about going to the meeting tonight, everyone there will be in the same boat, and probably with the same home life problems,
it will just be discussions about things like, how much you drink, how you feel when you drink or don't drink, how it effects your home life/work etc,
there will be people who are further down the line, and can offer advice on coping when the urges kick in, honesty is the key in these type of meetings,
I didn't want to suggest drugs like Librium as you seem to be functioning, and you didn't say anything about DT's or the like, but I do think your prescribed meds are a big part of the problem, especially regarding the blackouts,
you need to ask your GP for a meds review, zopiclone should only be a temporary measure as they can become addictive, and I'm unsure why your on diazepam, if it's for depression or anxiety, there are much better drugs out there now without the severe side effects, Mirtazapine can treat depression and sleep disorders in one, with less side effects,
it's going to be a slow process, and if you feel after tonight, AA isn't for you there are other help groups and organizations who can help, but well done for today, that proves your ready and able to kick the drink.

[garry1312]

Fair play to ya garry for having the bollox to put it on a forum, shows you've got the determination & you've started doing something about it already. Hope you get encouragement from the meeting 2nite. Best of luck with it.

Thanks mate

don't be worried about going to the meeting tonight, everyone there will be in the same boat, and probably with the same home life problems,
it will just be discussions about things like, how much you drink, how you feel when you drink or don't drink, how it effects your home life/work etc,
there will be people who are further down the line, and can offer advice on coping when the urges kick in, honesty is the key in these type of meetings,
I didn't want to suggest drugs like Librium as you seem to be functioning, and you didn't say anything about DT's or the like, but I do think your prescribed meds are a big part of the problem, especially regarding the blackouts,
you need to ask your GP for a meds review, zopiclone should only be a temporary measure as they can become addictive, and I'm unsure why your on diazepam, if it's for depression or anxiety, there are much better drugs out there now without the severe side effects, Mirtazapine can treat depression and sleep disorders in one, with less side effects,
it's going to be a slow process, and if you feel after tonight, AA isn't for you there are other help groups and organizations who can help, but well done for today, that proves your ready and able to kick the drink.

Thanks still worried mate.

The zopiclone was prescribed originally for sleeping and as you say was only temporary. When they ran out I sourced them myself but was not liking that they made me feel out of it in the mornings so I then went on to diazepam myself first for sleeping but then realised the efffects were similar to alcohol. I would not say I am addicted either one of these drugs. It worries me what I do on these black outs, how is it possible to do something so stupid, hurtful, careless, illegal or whatever and not remember a thing and for it to be totally out of your nature?

I dont know what DT's are mate but today I am shaking a lot and I have aches in my body mainly my joints.

[lagerland]

Good luck 4 to night gaz not that you wiil need it hope all goes well.....................

[smirnoff_rules]

Thanks mate



Thanks still worried mate.

The zopiclone was prescribed originally for sleeping and as you say was only temporary. When they ran out I sourced them myself but was not liking that they made me feel out of it in the mornings so I then went on to diazepam myself first for sleeping but then realised the efffects were similar to alcohol. I would not say I am addicted either one of these drugs. It worries me what I do on these black outs, how is it possible to do something so stupid, hurtful, careless, illegal or whatever and not remember a thing and for it to be totally out of your nature?

I dont know what DT's are mate but today I am shaking a lot and I have aches in my body mainly my joints.

l use diazepam for a back problem and like u got wot l needed over the wall , but there not the same there copies and some as bad ones . they will use anything to mix with them .. u could be taking any old shit m8 .. be carefull

[gmb45]

brill gaz going into a pub n not drinking even better not having none at home, i used to go into the pub n drink till they chucked me out or an ambulance fetched me or the police , seriously tho if your not having bad dts you will be ok with out librium or coming of the beer slowly, these methods are for the extreme cases, which personally i dont think you have got that far ( and hope you never do ) any way see how you go at AA, as you have said i dont think it will be for you, but it might be, i found the less informal places worked better for me, one to one chats with a keyworker etc, in notts theres a few places you can go thats like a day centre, you go there you can have a natter with other people whos in the same boat, hav a one to one with your keyworker there, theres no pressure on any kind just peeps there if you need to talk, these places are a bit daunting at first but once you get "into things" they are great as tshirtman has said them zopiclones and diazapam are heavy shit you dont really want to be on them, mirtazapine is good im on them, hav been for years, but thats me not you, your doc is the man to see bout that aspect, any way keep at it, these things are sent to test us

[garry1312]

What are DT's mate is it the shaking and twitching and pain, I have all 3 of these things. I have been thinking about drinking and gadz I was tidying the kitchen there and there was a half full can of cider on the floor dog hairs on it, I thought about it, thought just give it a wipe down but I binned it.

This really is not easy I have a sore head coming on now to and the pains in my arms are getting sorer I assume thats the little devil inside trying to pressure me to drink..... well I wont let it win.

[gmb45]

dts gaz, the shakes, hot cold sweats, dry retching ( wanting to be sick and nowt will come out ) and prob what ever else you feeling atm, also expect a few sleepless nights when you doing cold turkey as you are atm, this is one reason i have said about getting librium or coming off the beer slowly it reduces the dts and risks of black outs or even alcoholic fits, i dont want to scare you or persuade you into drinking or taking drugs, im just trying to tell you what could happen, i have seen these things happen to a lot of people and me but we was bad cases, in the end its down to you m8 all said and done, no one can stop you drinking only you, not nice thing to hear i know, but its true i faced up to it in the end, it took a while but got there as you will if you have the determination as has been said dont feel bad about your self this can happen to any one who drinks, try all the different things thats on offer one will suit you remember you system is ~~~~ed up atm so ya might experience other symptems not mentioned, but basically everthing thats happening to you body and mind atm will be down to the dts, dts ---> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delirium_tremens

[happy_highlander]

What are DT's mate is it the shaking and twitching and pain, I have all 3 of these things. I have been thinking about drinking and gadz I was tidying the kitchen there and there was a half full can of cider on the floor dog hairs on it, I thought about it, thought just give it a wipe down but I binned it.

This really is not easy I have a sore head coming on now to and the pains in my arms are getting sorer I assume thats the little devil inside trying to pressure me to drink..... well I wont let it win.

You have the dt's described exactly, and it's not easy m8. Don't try anything to strenuous, the stress on your heart at the minute is huge (and that's no joke m8) which is what eva was talking about when she said just stopping completely was dangerous. Just do things in fits and starts taking plenty breaks. I ended up taking 2 weeks of work until everything had settled down. I did try to change a ceiling light fitting near the end of those first 2 weeks but stop due to the fear of electrocution, I was sweating that much.......It was at that point the wife realised just what I was going through (the light was for her) and asked me if I wanted to move back home as I was clearly serious about giving it a damn good go

[gmb45]

these are the medically supervised detoxes i have done---> 2 weeks on a mental health ward queens medical centre nottingham, 10 days in the wells road centre nottingham, 6 days qmc again, 6 days in the city hospital, 5 days qmc. 6 days city hospital again and some other shorter periods in the qmc, as you can see i have had quite some experience with it all and i know what im on about if you need to talk pm me or if things are getting really bad i will give you my number the fat en as put up with murder with me but we still together

[garry1312]

dts gaz, the shakes, hot cold sweats, dry retching ( wanting to be sick and nowt will come out ) and prob what ever else you feeling atm, also expect a few sleepless nights when you doing cold turkey as you are atm, this is one reason i have said about getting librium or coming off the beer slowly it reduces the dts and risks of black outs or even alcoholic fits, i dont want to scare you or persuade you into drinking or taking drugs, im just trying to tell you what could happen, i have seen these things happen to a lot of people and me but we was bad cases, in the end its down to you m8 all said and done, no one can stop you drinking only you, not nice thing to hear i know, but its true i faced up to it in the end, it took a while but got there as you will if you have the determination as has been said dont feel bad about your self this can happen to any one who drinks, try all the different things thats on offer one will suit you remember you system is ~~~~ed up atm so ya might experience other symptems not mentioned, but basically everthing thats happening to you body and mind atm will be down to the dts, dts ---> Delirium tremens - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Checked that link mate and also got some other symptoms that I didnt think was down to that.

You have the dt's described exactly, and it's not easy m8. Don't try anything to strenuous, the stress on your heart at the minute is huge (and that's no joke m8) which is what eva was talking about when she said just stopping completely was dangerous. Just do things in fits and starts taking plenty breaks. I ended up taking 2 weeks of work until everything had settled down. I did try to change a ceiling light fitting near the end of those first 2 weeks but stop due to the fear of electrocution, I was sweating that much.......It was at that point the wife realised just what I was going through (the light was for her) and asked me if I wanted to move back home as I was clearly serious about giving it a damn good go

Scary stuff when you think about it. Not working at the moment mate but have the added stress of getting back in to work. Got to do everything around the house myself now as I am the only one here god trust me 4 walls drive you crazy, I cant sit at piece I am up and I am down I am up the stairs I am down the stairs, I am through in the kitchen, out in the garden...... im surprised I have not ventured up the ~~~~ing attic yet

these are the medically supervised detoxes i have done---> 2 weeks on a mental health ward queens medical centre nottingham, 10 days in the wells road centre nottingham, 6 days qmc again, 6 days in the city hospital, 5 days qmc. 6 days city hospital again and some other shorter periods in the qmc, as you can see i have had quite some experience with it all and i know what im on about if you need to talk pm me or if things are getting really bad i will give you my number the fat en as put up with murder with me but we still together

Thanks mate if and when it gets hard I will be in touch

[gmb45]

one thing to add gaz, please dont let this cost you you job or things will get really bad sorry to say it but it will.