Alcohol Problem

[garry1312]

ah soz didnt know you had lost ya job, what i ment was having days off thru the beer looking rough at work, not being able to do your job properly etc, that dont matter now. so now you have to keep your mind occupied thru the day to keep ya mind off the beer, i know what ya mean about not being able to sit still, up n down etc, i spent 3 days solid and nights cause i couldnt sit still when coming off the beer cleaning me flat top to bottom you could hav ate ya dinner off the floor

~~~~ me 64 replies already

Still cant sit still mate went to the meeting though..... it was broken in to two parts with a break in between, still dont think it is for me but going to give it another couple of trys. Feeling really itchy right now and anxious.

Gary as many have said you have taken the first step I however got to this step but carried on. I am 35 years of age and have been an alcoholic for 18 of them i also lost my job and partner,in 2009 i was admitted to hospital with ketoacitosis where upon i proceeded to hallucinate through withdrawal symptoms i went round the bend and ended up assaulting a male nurse with a drip pole,i have never been violent in my life. This lead to me being arrested and denied any more treatment. I went back four months later with the same complaint,(at the time of my first spell they were unaware i was alcoholic and subsequent charges were dropped by the nhs) and was given both care for my diabetic issues as well as alcoholism withdrawal through dependency,i had three seizures during my three month stay,the third one put me into cardiac arrest. I am now free of drink since june 2009. This not a horror story for sympathy for all i have done was my own doing,but to serve a reminder of what people dont see. I attended one meeting after my release and no more there after,i have come this for on determination alone,i do not know you at all but have seen you around the forums,and when i say if i can do it all you need to know is im damn sure you can do it. if you have anything to ask please pm me. i wish you every success on what can be a long road indeed. I have been there,seen it and done it,i hope my words are of some help to you and your ultimate reward at the end is you become a far more stronger,responsible and better person.

give the meeting all you have and i hope you like god!

Wow mate glad you got through that I aim to get through this its made me do some very stupid things, someone without a alcohol problem does not see these things as caused by the alcohol but after speaking to others face to face tonight I realised its a terrible drug that will make you a different person no doubt about it.

Tell me about it mate thats what puts me off the AA the god part I have no religion, i dont want to end the meeting with a prayer that means nothing to me.

Never a truer word said whisker.....If I hadn't been through I would have been one of the first to say it can't be that hard just stop drinking....I didn't have any seizures but did suffer the palpations and hallucinations. I just wish now that there had been more shown about the seriousness of alcohol when I was younger. Not that I would have taken a blind bit of notice seeing as I started drinking at the age of 12 and was 35 when I stopped or I don't think I would have made it to 39

I dont think I am getting it to bad yet but looking at it now I have always had a issue with drink, always made excuses and always drank to excess.....well no more.

Hi garry, you're on the road to recovery. You've admitted the problem, you've told DK the losses, you're jolting yourself. It's a start and a very important one too.
You're not friendless...you've got a quarter of a million friends on here... and because of DK you have friends here who have been where you're at.
Don't shun tonights meeting, give it a chance, go a second time, gmb is an important friend to you right now.
PM gmb, come back to us, keep searching for answers and you'll find them and while doing so your mind will be otherwise occupied.
You can beat this and you will.
The DT's snapped me back years ago and it wasn't pleasant.
You haven't failed because you wouldn't be seeking help if you had.
Best of luck with the meeting, you're not unique as you will find out how common the problem is.
Will power, determination and a quarter of a million friends to help garry....go for it.

I am very very happy/ proud and over joyed from the support I have received from my fellow DK members. I cant thank use enough and I know if I need help I can count on use

Gary it takes a big man to come on here and admit that. Now go to your doctor and admit it to them. They will get you proffessional help and then you can get your life back. Good luck all the best.

Yeah I should go to my doctors but you have no idea how bad our doctors is to get a appointment..... seriously it is shocking I am changing surgery.

sorry to hear this gary
hope all gets sorted for both you and your family
your one person on here that i thought wouldnt have a problem with drink as ive never heard ya on about it in the chatbox

i noticed myself having a slight problem with drink a few weeks ago to... as i was buying the slabs in the shop because there as cheap as buying a handful of cans,,, this led to me having a few drinks every few nights during the week as it was there

it can happen so easily these addictions

also i went through a bad breakup a good few years ago and it was awful i got dumped was an awful shock to the system.... and i presume your having feelings just like i had at the time plus you also have a son to think about

one thing i would recommend is exercising as much as ya can in a gym eiter running or swimming as its a very good way of taking your mind off things for an hour or two and reduces depression and improves your mood

I think although it was not something I mentioned much on the SB mate was because it was a way of life for me it had became second nature to me like sparking a fag up.

I dont think as youngsters we are taught as much of the dangers of alcohol the way we are of other drugs. I think there should be a change there yes we are taught it can become addictive but not as much the damage it causes or the battle to fight the addiction or how it effects families etc.

hallo
did you saw your son today?
or at least did u call him?

No never seen him mate he is a far distance away from me but I did speak to him on the phone and told him that his daddy loves him very much and is going to do everything in his power to fix everything. I get to see him on Friday I cannot wait to see his wee face give him a big hug and a kiss, then next week I get him Thursday to the Tuesday which will be great already planning what we can do together. It's not ideal but I love my boy with all my heart hes the best thing that has ever happened to me and I will sort myself out for me, him and I hope Chelsea will take me back at some point because although she does not believe it due to stupid actions from myself I do love her with all my heart, shes my rock and my best friend..... I am a complete and utter idiot to loose such a perfect woman.

Can I just go slightly off topic with this and ask a question?

I usually have 4-6 cans every night. I've always looked at it as a way to unwind after a days work. Never have a drink before 9pm and I don't crave or need a drink at all during a day.
Even on holiday I'm the same. Kids have all day but after 9pm it's adult time for a few hours and a few drinks.
I'm not well up on this sort of thing but would I be classed as an alcoholic/having a drink problem?

This thread has been a real eye opener.
Gary, as others have said, you have taken a real first step towards admitting you have a problem and I admire you for that. You take that positive attitude and move forward.
Remember your son and CB when you find it tough. They should be your inspiration mate and I hope you get there.

Hi mate I wouldnt say it makes you a alcoholic, can you go without it, is it effecting your life, the way you function etc.

For me I was having black outs not remembering one day from the next doing things and having no idea about them, serious mood swings, a very angry temper at times.

I would use excuses like 'a man is entitled to a drink after his work' or 'everyone has a wee drink'.....

I know now that I dont want to touch drink again I want to turn my life around I want my family I want to be a sensible person be the perfect dad and treat CB like a goddess if she will give me that chance because they are all that matter and its time for major change.

If you can handle those cans at night though mate and there not effecting parts of your life then I wouldnt say its to much of a problem.

I would drink anything with a percentage and I would not stop drinking until there was none left or the wallet was empty etc.

[happy_highlander]

Aleister......Do you find yourself clock watching waiting for the nine o'clock whistle, if so I'd be starting to miss out the odd night and trying to break the pattern

[garry1312]

Aleister......Do you find yourself clock watching waiting for the nine o'clock whistle, if so I'd be starting to miss out the odd night and trying to break the pattern

Yeah would agree with that at work id be counting down the time till I got a pint and also as said if you can go a night or 2 without having those cans and its not a bother then your fine Aleister.

If you find yourself doing either mate cut it back dont end up the way I have it is destroying.

[garry1312]

Cold turkey + AA was not the answer I feel terrible cant sleep, very dizzy, sweaty, sore..... and most importantly cant sleep.

Called NHS 24 and after a thousand and one questions got told a doctor is going to need to call me...... this could take up to a few hours.

I've failed big time.

I dont even want to get up incase I pass out but cant find the bloody remote ..... mind you couldnt find it when I was up and about

[lagerland]

You aint failed m8 the start of the road is allways the worst part it does get easier just be strong gaz................

[gmb45]

as i have said gaz been there got the t-shirt more than once, your symptoms are typical of cold turkey, this is why i said come off it slowly either with beer or drugs from the docs, you will probably have another rough night then things will get a lot easier, your appetite will start to come after 3 days, your cold turkey could work in your favour now that you know what it really is like,you might be less likely to get in that state again, until you have been there you cannot understand what it like, no one can, more people who have over come their drink problems need to be working in the "recovery industry" which there is a serious lack off. keep at it gaz it does get easier with every day that passes, another reason i said get to the docs is he can give you pills to replace the vitimin B12 the potassium and other vitimins and minerals that the alcohol has "removed" from your body, another reason your feeling shite.

[Snowy79]

Stick in their Garry. It's going to hurt short term but long term it will pay you back ten fold. I had a relative turn up at my house 7 years ago on Xmas eve from England. He kept going to the toilet and I thought it was strange and started taking the piss out of him about being a soft Southerner and being able to handle the water. After about 6 times in an hour I asked his partner if he was OK and she broke down crying. It turned out he was a heroin addict and had fled England to get away from the wrong crowd. I literaly sat on him for 2 weeks as he went through Cold Turkey. Sleeping on the floor in the bedroom etc but he got through it. He knows it was one of the most painfull periods of his life but he is alive and has 4 kids now. In the same period he has lost about 6 fellow junkies.

You've got to focus on the long term and not the short term. Have photos of CB and your lad around the house or in your pocket and keep looking at them when it gets tough. The demons in your head will be working overtime but if you're serious you can beat them.

[happy_highlander]

Hang in there gaz as gmb says the first couple of days and nights are as rough as hell but you will start feel better soon enough. Go get your pills. As said in an earlier post you will never be failure mate, no matter what set backs you have or how bad you feel, pick yourself have a shower and a shave, grab yourself some lucozade to keep your sugar levels up until you feel like eating properly again. Hold on tight to that wagon mate it's taking you on bumpy road (feels more like a ploughed field than a road) to the rest of your life and with a bit of luck the further along that road you go friends and family will start to appear at the side of the road to come along for the ride. Stay strong and positive pal.

[gmb45]

oh yeh the dehydration is the main reason your feeling rough as ~~~~, drink as much water as you can more so than sweet sugary drinks as these might make you atm, your guts will feel rough as ~~~~ so the lighter the stuff in there the better, this goes with food as well thin soups the best thing atm.

[motortecnica]

hi to you too
any words i try say....seem stupid...
could be easy "talk"... i can't sorry
for sure people will say you TONS of things
but only inside you will find power to exit from this bad problem
enrico

HELLO,I say only two words you must be strong and face your problems with patience solve that, you have to be optimistic! GREETINGS

[garry1312]

as i have said gaz been there got the t-shirt more than once, your symptoms are typical of cold turkey, this is why i said come off it slowly either with beer or drugs from the docs, you will probably have another rough night then things will get a lot easier, your appetite will start to come after 3 days, your cold turkey could work in your favour now that you know what it really is like,you might be less likely to get in that state again, until you have been there you cannot understand what it like, no one can, more people who have over come their drink problems need to be working in the "recovery industry" which there is a serious lack off. keep at it gaz it does get easier with every day that passes, another reason i said get to the docs is he can give you pills to replace the vitimin B12 the potassium and other vitimins and minerals that the alcohol has "removed" from your body, another reason your feeling shite.

Aah last night was terrible, im still kind of feeling that sick way but not going to be sick and still itchy as hell but not in any pain right now.

I managed to get a appointment at my doctors at 9.50 so better get ready.

Stick in their Garry. It's going to hurt short term but long term it will pay you back ten fold. I had a relative turn up at my house 7 years ago on Xmas eve from England. He kept going to the toilet and I thought it was strange and started taking the piss out of him about being a soft Southerner and being able to handle the water. After about 6 times in an hour I asked his partner if he was OK and she broke down crying. It turned out he was a heroin addict and had fled England to get away from the wrong crowd. I literaly sat on him for 2 weeks as he went through Cold Turkey. Sleeping on the floor in the bedroom etc but he got through it. He knows it was one of the most painfull periods of his life but he is alive and has 4 kids now. In the same period he has lost about 6 fellow junkies.

You've got to focus on the long term and not the short term. Have photos of CB and your lad around the house or in your pocket and keep looking at them when it gets tough. The demons in your head will be working overtime but if you're serious you can beat them.

Thanks Snowy and sorry to hear about your friend but well done for getting him over that.

I do I Have a photo of Chelsea and Monty on the coffee table that I just look at and remind myself that they are more important than any bottle or can

oh yeh the dehydration is the main reason your feeling rough as ~~~~, drink as much water as you can more so than sweet sugary drinks as these might make you atm, your guts will feel rough as ~~~~ so the lighter the stuff in there the better, this goes with food as well thin soups the best thing atm.

Will pick up some juice mate but really cant eat anything the now had lunch yesterday just before 12 and not had anything since cant think about eating to be honest. Dont even deserve to eat anyway mate .


Still not found the ~~~~ing remote!!!!!!

[garry1312]

Also ended up in tears and a terrible state last night because one of the cats let off one of the the wee mans toys...... I just feel so weak right now.

[gmb45]

ah docs good man, ask about the librium they do help a lot, and also ask about vitimins minerals etc what he can give you they will also help, ask about other "places" you can go that will help, tell him you have been to AA as well but its not really for you, let us know what the doc says.

[garry1312]

I will do gmb thanks mate going to take some quick notes so i dont forget anything.

I will let you know how I get on once I get back in mate.

Thanks again really thanks.

[gmb45]

I will do gmb thanks mate going to take some quick notes so i dont forget anything.

I will let you know how I get on once I get back in mate.

Thanks again really thanks.

not a prob at all m8, really glad i could help thru my own experiences, its always good to talk to those who have been there, better than any help ya can get through the other routes, ( but you need them as well )