Earth bonding gas pipes

[Mjolinor]

Guy came next door from National grid Yesterday to replace the gas meter. He refused to do the job because there was an earth bond on the gas piping and he isn't allowed to do the job because there should be no earth bonding on the gas pipe.

As far as I knew PME regs required all pipework to be earth bonded as close as possible to the building entry point.

Problem is now that I also have a letter saying they want to change mine and I don't know if I need to remove the earth or leave it, if I make the wrong choice then once they have seen it they report it as incorrect and I have to get a certificate from a "qualified" electrician to say the work was carried out correctly.

Has there been a change on the regs regarding earthing?

[ray156]

Guy came next door from National grid Yesterday to replace the gas meter. He refused to do the job because there was an earth bond on the gas piping and he isn't allowed to do the job because there should be no earth bonding on the gas pipe.

As far as I knew PME regs required all pipework to be earth bonded as close as possible to the building entry point.

Problem is now that I also have a letter saying they want to change mine and I don't know if I need to remove the earth or leave it, if I make the wrong choice then once they have seen it they report it as incorrect and I have to get a certificate from a "qualified" electrician to say the work was carried out correctly.

Has there been a change on the regs regarding earthing?

the council gas service guys just came last month and earthed our outside meters, so must be ok.if council doing it.

[Meat-Head]

Intreasting.

Rumor has it, that normally regs come into force because somebody had a problem, that was the answer.

Now, somebody somewhere needs banning.

Take mains wiring colors, been red/black for hundrads of years, because color blind people struggle with brown and blue.

So what do we have now "harmnised" colors - BLACK is a PHASE, grey, brown and blue.

*PERFECT* in helping color blind ex sparkys, brilliant idea.

Did hear rumor going around saying 17TH iee regs, do away with bondage, and you can put a socket in the bathroom WTF.

Suggest you *THINK* take a decent camera for a walk to maplin - read and photograph the relevent pages - book is expensive

OFF TOPIC:-

The hiway code is a 'safty' thing and bt law is required to be free download (or was)

ON TOPIC:-

belevive same with elec regs - and gas stuff - *THINK*

[DOUGALMCD]

I thought you said bring my bagpipes.

[Meat-Head]

I thought you said bring my bagpipes.

*CONFUSED*

Sorry read it yourself removed adobe pdf reader, got pished off with it, need to install fixit reader.

have a snooch here

 
 [COLOR=#009933]www.denmans.co.uk/downloads_public/[B]17th[/B]_mk.[B]pdf[/B][/COLOR]
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[braz13]

Look at

http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/estates/projects/ed/edtechnical/gasservices/gas.pdf

Section:

8.16.4 Main equipotential bonding


Hope this helps

[flyingpig]

You gas meter requires to be bonded on the consumer side of the meter. The bond should be made before any tee off the pipe.. The bond should not be on the supply side of the meter.

The cable required size can vary depending on what edition of the IEE regs your property is wired to.

You can buy an earth clamp for coppers. Make sure you buy the correct size as they come in varying sizes.

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[Meat-Head]

You gas meter requires to be bonded on the consumer side of the meter. The bond should be made before any tee off the pipe.. The bond should not be on the supply side of the meter.

AH, so wounder if all you had to do was send him out for a fag, swap sides the clamp was on, job done.

ON TOPIC:-

OK, so theres a problem in the street, new gas main, PDFRETARD pipe - it's plastic - is there any point earthing?

Wouls guess ORGINAL reason for earth bond somebody had a washingmachine leak and got fried or a gas boiler made the radators live.

BUT having said that - i thought was funny - did read in the paper a few xmaseses ago, a dustbin lid stood on the radatior, touched the xmas tree lights, and became a new fairy.

[calhib]

earth bonding came in when somebody dropped a toaster in the bath with them in a tower block killing anyone using a tap or in the bath in the rest of the flats it killed about 6-7 people thats for water anyway would pressume its the same reason for gas

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[Mjolinor]

You gas meter requires to be bonded on the consumer side of the meter. The bond should be made before any tee off the pipe.. The bond should not be on the supply side of the meter.

The cable required size can vary depending on what edition of the IEE regs your property is wired to.

You can buy an earth clamp for coppers. Make sure you buy the correct size as they come in varying sizes.

It is already earthed on the consumer side before any T piece and he refused to do it because he said it should not be bonded at all.

Talking bolox methinks, probably wanted to go to a party or something.

[Meat-Head]

earth bonding came in when somebody dropped a toaster in the bath it killed about 6-7 people

WICKED, you got a link to the thread, that sounds cool, or at least a year?

So on that score, what comes around goes a around, you plug a toaster in you new 17TH IEEE reg bathroom socket, drop in bath, brilliant.

Untill the RCD trips.

Talking bolox methinks, probably wanted to go to a party or something.

When you see a Gas Van in the street ask what the situation is, or better still find a building site, have a snoop, ask question,s, go back at night and skank stuff.

[flyingpig]

It is already earthed on the consumer side before any T piece and he refused to do it because he said it should not be bonded at all.

Talking bolox methinks, probably wanted to go to a party or something.

He is talking absolute booooollllllllllooooooockkkksss!!!!!!!

Effing hate people who cannot be arsed to do their job... Sly engineers are just the same... Cant do that satellite means my ladders have to go over your extension and thats not allowed.... FOOOOOOOOKK OFFF!!!!!!!!

[ray156]

health and safety,where would we be without it,a normal graftin country..not only cotton wool kids now,its frigging cotton wool workers.

[griff]

It should be bonded as close to the meter as poss and before the first tee. Or if ur meter is outside it should be bonded at point of entry and i think it should be 10mm earth cable. If it isnt done then it's not up to current standards

[richy_rich]

...find a building site, have a snoop, ask question,s, go back at night and skank stuff.

(offtopic)

Once did that as a little richy_rich (about 19) with some mates, all pissed up on booze and raided a building site. Got some brilliant stuff 240/110V converters, a site heater, some copper wire & pipe, lanterns and even a victorian cast iron radiator. Lugged it all back to mine, luckily the building site was next door, mates went home and I and went to bed.

Woke up about an hour later annoyed by a flashing orange light we'd grabbed off a skip. 'FFS!', I think 'my bedroom is full of this shit.' I shared a tiny upstairs flat with three others and, even drunk, I doubted they wanted to share many of my ace prizes. So I decide to try and put it back.

Still hammered I fight/fall down the stairs with the cast iron radiator making god only knows what noise and swears and suddenly see a silhouette at the door which was odd as it's now about 3 or 4 in the morning, also there's loads of lights outside. So I lean the radiator against the wall and open the door .. to a bemused copper.

'Hello!', he says, 'We're investigating a break in at the site next door, did you hear anything?' Me: "Um, no I just heard a noise now, got out of bed and came down to see what was going on?" He looks me up and down then looks at the radiator, then looks at me again.

I look at me too, I'm still fully clothed, clearly pissed and covered in brick and plaster dust. I tried to think of something to say but he got in first, "Look lad, go back to bed, sleep it off and chuck it all back over the fence in the morning will you? I can't be arsed and, well, we know where you are if it's not put back, right?"

"Um, oh, er yeah, ok." I reply. (To my eternal shame I then mumbled something about him doing a brilliant job and tried to give him a hug.)

I did chuck most of it back the next day though (just kept the good bits).

(ontopic)

Whilst doing this I did not see how they'd earth bonded (or not) the gas pipes. Sorry.