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  • zaphodbb
    DK Daddy PT
    • Jan 2009
    • 1083

    #31
    I have been reading this thread with great interest, and I have to agree with everything opsmonkey has said, the greatest thing for any government is a terrorist threat, if the people are scared then you can really mess with their human rights. Case and point the U.S.A. after 9/11 they came up with the patriot act, which made nonsense of the first amendment in their constitution, this was done under the umbrella of homeland security.
    I know this has nothing to do with the thread but read on please, the same applies to
    Taking peoples concerns about immigrants, crime, and the depressed economy, ring any bells so far, Germany in the early thirties perhaps. Then a man steps forward and says the answer it?s the jews, we need to make Germany for Germans etc toned down of course a bit like the bnp manifesto. So ok how are they going to make all this happen change the laws. But the law is for everyone not just immigrants, and blacks, Asians, or Indians oh no they are for you as well. they will strip you of your human rights in a heartbeat? but hey its for your own good you will thank them in the end yea right. Who knows maybe they would bring in curfews to cut crime, guilt by association if you are caught by a few of the skinhead neo brown shirts talking to your Indian mate. Then they kick the shit out of you both!! Can?t happen in the UK I hear you say??, neo Nazis are gathering members all over Europe and in France in particular and it scares the living piss out of me to think people are even contemplating letting this band of racist thugs have any say in the running of our country, please be careful what you wish for you might just get it !!

    Zap rant over? and out!!! and by the way if they were in power I would be shot for this post, I know what your thinking I should be shot anyway.

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    • forntida
      DK Veteran
      • Feb 2009
      • 1281

      #32
      The BNP has succceeded in getting an MEP elected. That is bad news. It now means that the far right in Europe can say if it's ok for the UK then it is ok for us. The BNP are like Socialists compared to the far right in some Eastern Eoropean countries. I say let us get out of Europe now, before it is too late. Form an English speaking trading and peace alliance. The subject was mooted years ago but was forgotten about in favour of Europe. I would rather sit with friends than sit with a crowd who basically hate me.

      Rant over.
      I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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      • zaphodbb
        DK Daddy PT
        • Jan 2009
        • 1083

        #33
        Originally posted by forntida
        The BNP has succceeded in getting an MEP elected. That is bad news. It now means that the far right in Europe can say if it's ok for the UK then it is ok for us. The BNP are like Socialists compared to the far right in some Eastern Eoropean countries. I say let us get out of Europe now, before it is too late. Form an English speaking trading and peace alliance. The subject was mooted years ago but was forgotten about in favour of Europe. I would rather sit with friends than sit with a crowd who basically hate me.

        Rant over.
        sorry forntida but its two, and 13 ukip

        UK Euro results
        Party
        MEPs
        Conservatives
        24
        Labour
        11
        Liberal Democrats
        10
        UKIP
        13
        Greens
        2
        BNP
        2
        Plaid Cymru
        1
        10 of 12 declared

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        • thered
          V.I.P. Member
          • Aug 2008
          • 4915

          #34
          cant belive all this stuff on the bnp ffs all this hype about a vote for bnp is gonna make us a nazi britain where we all chase immigrants with axes before we decide to invade poland

          people just arent like that no more i dont know what racism is like in all area's of the uk but but i dont really see it as an issue in this day and age in the 1930's it was,so can you honestly a vote for bnp causing the next haulocaust you must be having a giraffe nobody would stand for it

          Originally posted by opsmonkey
          I cant beleive people are actually thinking of voting BNP.. Hitler came to power in exactly the same way in the 30's..

          Many of your fathers or grandfathers fought and in some cases died to push back fascism and its evils..
          yeh many died m8 you are correct and i dont think many would be best pleased that we opened the floodgates after they fought 2 world wars for this country


          Originally posted by opsmonkey
          How many of you like sport..??? Can you imagine your favorite team without any Black or Asian players..??
          i cant tbh and it would never happen you cant just send people back to there homeland for no reason when they have lived here properly and pay taxes or were born here but you can stop people coming in from now on unless they apply for visa's.there is a lot of cause for migrant workers when we are booming(our health service would be none existent) but in times of bust our own citizens must come like the old saying charity begins at home.

          as you say i like sport and that brings me to my next point in football we all like to see one of our own come through the ranks a local lad do we not rather than some kid from senegal or is that racist too? do you want english players to play for england or do you want a system where foreigners can play for england cause they have lived in the country for five minutes,better still lets not have international football cause we should all have no identity and be one big happy family and all play for planet earth

          people will vote bnp or ukip because they agree with some of there policies not because they are racist thugs because im my world they dont exist do you know of any?

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          • thered
            V.I.P. Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 4915

            #35
            nick griffin on being an elected mep came accross quite well for me no sign of armageddon yet

            YouTube - BNPtv interviews Nick Griffin MEP

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            • chroma
              V.I.P. Member
              • Feb 2009
              • 1976

              #36
              Originally posted by thered
              people will vote bnp or ukip because they agree with some of there policies not because they are racist thugs because im my world they dont exist do you know of any?
              I know quite a few unfortunately, my aunt married a neo nazi. Hes really proud of that, tattoos, flags, fully registered member, collects ww2 Nazi Party memorabilia the full nine. Thankfully Scotts are scum of the earth (apparently) and hes English so even when im in my aunts company he scarpers, lest he be caught fraternising with subhumans, if he got any real power im certain i would be one of the first against the wall.
              He's all for closing off the borders and erecting pill boxes and gun turrets to protect the sanctity of England...

              Then ive got a few "aquaintances" or friends of friends who have been in prison on several occasions for kerb stomping anyone not Scottish and one in particular is just like Hitler in that hes not Scottish he is in fact of Irish descent, so hes as much an immigrant as anyone hes ever placed in intensive care. He cant wrap seem to wrap his head around a notion as complex as hypocracy.

              I really dont understand it, dont get me wrong ive tried. I'll let anyone say their piece but i never get any answers. Any time i ask questions things either turn violent or they just Zig Heil and run off

              Humans can understand the math behind splitting atoms, can send people to the moon, perform heart transplants, walk along the bottom of the ocean... but we cant seem to get over a hurdle that in my eyes is no bigger than a molehill when it comes to race, frankly the mind boggles.
              He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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              • forntida
                DK Veteran
                • Feb 2009
                • 1281

                #37
                Racism or most other isms depend on the area you are raised in or the company you keep. People are still fighting wars that were fought 300 years ago. They are raised in an environment that encourages them to keep remembering and never to forgive.

                When I was young kids were warned if you don't go to sleep the big black man will get you. You grow up watching movies where the good guy is in white and the bad guy is in black(black and white movies). Most of us go on and get educated, others keep those feelings within them. Add those feelings to the natural suspicion of any alien culture and you have racism. Everything gets blamed on the alien.

                I wish some people would read history and learn not just the good but all the bad things that the British Empire created in somebody else's country.

                Morning rant over.
                I can't wake up Grumpy now in case I am accused of Dwarfism

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                • Hawk.
                  Top Poster
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 127

                  #38
                  I'm too young to vote. :'(

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                  • thered
                    V.I.P. Member
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4915

                    #39
                    Originally posted by chroma
                    I know quite a few unfortunately, my aunt married a neo nazi. Hes really proud of that, tattoos, flags, fully registered member, collects ww2 Nazi Party memorabilia the full nine. Thankfully Scotts are scum of the earth (apparently) and hes English so even when im in my aunts company he scarpers, lest he be caught fraternising with subhumans, if he got any real power im certain i would be one of the first against the wall.
                    He's all for closing off the borders and erecting pill boxes and gun turrets to protect the sanctity of England...

                    Then ive got a few "aquaintances" or friends of friends who have been in prison on several occasions for kerb stomping anyone not Scottish and one in particular is just like Hitler in that hes not Scottish he is in fact of Irish descent, so hes as much an immigrant as anyone hes ever placed in intensive care. He cant wrap seem to wrap his head around a notion as complex as hypocracy.

                    I really dont understand it, dont get me wrong ive tried. I'll let anyone say their piece but i never get any answers. Any time i ask questions things either turn violent or they just Zig Heil and run off

                    Humans can understand the math behind splitting atoms, can send people to the moon, perform heart transplants, walk along the bottom of the ocean... but we cant seem to get over a hurdle that in my eyes is no bigger than a molehill when it comes to race, frankly the mind boggles.
                    i take your point but i wasnt talking about scotland we all know in england there is a few scots a couple of carrots short of a casserole


                    but yeh seriously i know there is a lot of hate in scotland in certain quarters a lot from religion too,also some have a really deep rooted hate for the english as i found out a few year a go at t in the park when i wore my england top all day i had people wanting to kill me and all sorts lucky to be alive at some points i tell ya

                    anyway i know when i was young there was a bit of a race war between the skinheads and the black community but i can honestly say in my eyes i have never seen one racist attack or incident in my life and it just doesnt seem the issue it once was,on the other hand i have seen a few people use the race card to try and get on which does pi55 people off

                    so the point im trying to make is that i dont think the bnp are the antichrist everyone is trying to make out if they were i am sure they would have been flushed out by now by undercover journalist's and others who are keen to condemn the party but the things people are using and writing against them are largely from 15-20 year ago i think the world and the party have both moved on a bit dont you?

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