Doreen Lawrence peerage.

[Kalipo]

Can anyone explain what has this woman actually done to deserve a Peerage in the House of Lords ?? Have we not seen and heard enough about her and her dead son ?? Didnt she get to carry a flag at the openning of the Olympic Games ??
Im sorry but there are countless other mothers who have had their sons or daughters murderred and still await Justice and get no recognition in comparison to Doreen Lawrence. Plus she has been appointed by the Labour Party, just like Immigration, ive no doubt this is another Labour view to rub our noses in Diversity.

If the met save up and buy a goat she'l milk that too..

She probably wont stop till shes queen!

[Snowy79]

Got to agree she's been given the title to appease the left wing nuts. Sure she's suffered at the hands of those involved in the investigation into the death of her Son but as we all know there's been hundreds killed since of all colours without a fraction of the resources spent on them and plenty of them would have been racially motivated. Look at the Wikipedia page on Kriss Donald to see what happens if you're white and murdered in a racist way. Stephen Lawrence was stabbed in the street. Kriss was kidnapped, driven around Glasgow, stabbed repeatedly, stripped naked and had his penis cut off whilst still alive then set on fire. I bet very few people even heard about this and considering it was the first time in Scotland a racist murder charge had been brought there was next to no publicity for fear of causing trouble in the ethnic community.

[Meat-Head]

Who? As long as she dont want vip status, that has to becearned, not demanded

what threads she started and post count? Never heard of her, or son

[ifred]

I'm with meat what a despicable way to try and get VIP status on DK without earning

[chalky 4]

Since they like a laugh. How about Lord Paul Gascoigne.

[ifred]

On a more serious note......Meat-head gets my vote....hope mage doesn't slip with the sword

First bill Sir meat is a free weekly beer allowance for DK'ers

[jaws2]

they give ter many things today, heart surgeons etc should get more, McCartney, Jagger, Elton John,Geldof, most of them are ex drug addicts, they all got gongs, really great advert Wiggins he,s only road a pushbike. better shut up....

jah man

[Diddy]

Maybe it's because she took on a foul system that tried at EVERY turn to shut her up/discredit her and her followers/supporters - and after all of that she "won". Yes there has been countless murders before and after her son that did not get the airtime/resources that this has. That IMHO makes what she has achieved all the more remarkable. Brave and principled lady IMHO. Maybe if there were other people like her then the country would indeed be a better place.
On a side note maybe if the parents of poor Kriss Donald campaigned and harangued the scottish police and UK media/BBC ect as much as Doreen Lawrence did then the name of her son would be on everyone's conscience and the issue of racism in it's reverse form would be a more open issue and up for debate and discussion. Remember when Doreen Lawrence 1st started out she was shouted down and basically told to p-off from high and low....only when she refused to be silenced did she/we/us start to hear and see the truth.
Dont get me wrong I am not knocking the parents of Kriss - It does take a special type of person and a special type of inner strength and self belief to carry on fighting against everyone when you feel nobodies listening nor supporting you.

[ontherack]

Maybe it's because she took on a foul system that tried at EVERY turn to shut her up/discredit her and her followers/supporters - and after all of that she "won". Yes there has been countless murders before and after her son that did not get the airtime/resources that this has. That IMHO makes what she has achieved all the more remarkable. Brave and principled lady IMHO. Maybe if there were other people like her then the country would indeed be a better place.
On a side note maybe if the parents of poor Kriss Donald campaigned and harangued the scottish police and UK media/BBC ect as much as Doreen Lawrence did then the name of her son would be on everyone's conscience and the issue of racism in it's reverse form would be a more open issue and up for debate and discussion. Remember when Doreen Lawrence 1st started out she was shouted down and basically told to p-off from high and low....only when she refused to be silenced did she/we/us start to hear and see the truth.
Dont get me wrong I am not knocking the parents of Kriss - It does take a special type of person and a special type of inner strength and self belief to carry on fighting against everyone when you feel nobodies listening nor supporting you.

There you have IT....In a Nutshell

[Meat-Head]

CONFUSED

still no idea who she is or where she posted it

[nara]

Maybe it's because she took on a foul system that tried at EVERY turn to shut her up/discredit her and her followers/supporters - and after all of that she "won". Yes there has been countless murders before and after her son that did not get the airtime/resources that this has. That IMHO makes what she has achieved all the more remarkable. Brave and principled lady IMHO. Maybe if there were other people like her then the country would indeed be a better place.
On a side note maybe if the parents of poor Kriss Donald campaigned and harangued the scottish police and UK media/BBC ect as much as Doreen Lawrence did then the name of her son would be on everyone's conscience and the issue of racism in it's reverse form would be a more open issue and up for debate and discussion. Remember when Doreen Lawrence 1st started out she was shouted down and basically told to p-off from high and low....only when she refused to be silenced did she/we/us start to hear and see the truth.
Dont get me wrong I am not knocking the parents of Kriss - It does take a special type of person and a special type of inner strength and self belief to carry on fighting against everyone when you feel nobodies listening nor supporting you.

Spot on!

If some of the posters here had bothered to do some research they'd have seen that she received an OBE in 2003 for her services to community relations for which she's campaigned tirelessly.

She has secured reforms in the police service and founded a charitable trust for victims of racist crime. She sits on Home Office and police panels and is a member of the boards of Liberty and Stop Hate UK.

If she doesn't deserve a peerage, who the f*ck does?

[GastonJ]

Judging by the latest list anyone with money can get one. Donate to a party and get a free ride on the gravy train in the un-elected house of lords. At least she earned hers.

[Snowy79]

Out of all of those receiving the award she does deserve it more than most but I'm a bit sceptical as to whether she got it off of her own back or due to pressure groups using her as a stooge to get at the authorities. She had the benefit of community leaders, politicians and the left wing media supporting her and raising her profile allowing her access to the positions she got. They even made a TV docudrama about her less than 6 years after her Son was murdered. There's thousands of people out there that work tirelessly for the community who sit on various boards and help to write policy yet remain un-named. In the Kriss case we had the opposite. Politicians, the left wing media and community leaders putting pressure on the authorities to bury the news. Before anyone jumps on the band wagon answer this question. Did you hear anything on the news or media reference this case ? At the end of the day the whole awards are corrupt and self serving for those who put the candidates forward. I have 100% sympathy for Doreen Lawrence and wish those involved in the cock up served long prison sentences.

[Diddy]

Out of all of those receiving the award she does deserve it more than most but I'm a bit sceptical as to whether she got it off of her own back or due to pressure groups using her as a stooge to get at the authorities. She had the benefit of community leaders, politicians and the left wing media supporting her and raising her profile allowing her access to the positions she got. They even made a TV docudrama about her less than 6 years after her Son was murdered. There's thousands of people out there that work tirelessly for the community who sit on various boards and help to write policy yet remain un-named. In the Kriss case we had the opposite. Politicians, the left wing media and community leaders putting pressure on the authorities to bury the news. Before anyone jumps on the band wagon answer this question. Did you hear anything on the news or media reference this case ? At the end of the day the whole awards are corrupt and self serving for those who put the candidates forward. I have 100% sympathy for Doreen Lawrence and wish those involved in the cock up served long prison sentences.

I still refer to my previous post SHE put in the work, SHE would not be silenced, SHE refused to back off, SHE used whatever resources that were eventually offered to her. You are coming across a little bit bitter that this lady has achieved so much which has resulted in a peerage....Before her actions things were much much worse...unless of course you were happier the way things were. (Im not directing this at you Snowy79 I am merely pointing out that it is the way your attitude in this thread comes across)
In answer to your question about Kriss - Yep I did read/hear and see the whole story in the media. It was the main headline when it happened, It was on STV news every night as the top headline (As it should be) when it happened and also again when the trials took place.
I also recall their being lots of tension (I live 15 miles from where it happened) in the area - If memory serves me correctly the BNP turned up looking for support and trying to stir up the shit....but as is the Glasgow way they got ****ed right off out of it. Glasgow is not perfect, But it is a dam sight more integrated than a lot of other cities in the UK.
The guys that done Kriss got life as far as I remember.....Bit different from the Lawrence case where no ****er was even charged to begin with and when they were they walked....only god knows how many years later did they serve a small sentence for what they did.
The only connection in these 2 crimes is that they were racially motivated. The follow on from both crimes is quite different in many many aspects....Each of the crimes were bloody appalling though and completely senseless carried out by knuckle dragging neanderthals.
We have our problems in the UK and its people like doreen Lawrence who make a difference that should be rewarded .....no matter HOW those rewards are brought about...if it takes pressure then so be it in my opinion....it shouldn't do but if it does then good on the pressure bearers.

[Kalipo]

I still refer to my previous post SHE put in the work, SHE would not be silenced, SHE refused to back off, SHE used whatever resources that were eventually offered to her. You are coming across a little bit bitter that this lady has achieved so much which has resulted in a peerage....Before her actions things were much much worse...unless of course you were happier the way things were. (Im not directing this at you Snowy79 I am merely pointing out that it is the way your attitude in this thread comes across)
In answer to your question about Kriss - Yep I did read/hear and see the whole story in the media. It was the main headline when it happened, It was on STV news every night as the top headline (As it should be) when it happened and also again when the trials took place.
I also recall their being lots of tension (I live 15 miles from where it happened) in the area - If memory serves me correctly the BNP turned up looking for support and trying to stir up the shit....but as is the Glasgow way they got ****ed right off out of it. Glasgow is not perfect, But it is a dam sight more integrated than a lot of other cities in the UK.
The guys that done Kriss got life as far as I remember.....Bit different from the Lawrence case where no ****er was even charged to begin with and when they were they walked....only god knows how many years later did they serve a small sentence for what they did.
The only connection in these 2 crimes is that they were racially motivated. The follow on from both crimes is quite different in many many aspects....Each of the crimes were bloody appalling though and completely senseless carried out by knuckle dragging neanderthals.
We have our problems in the UK and its people like doreen Lawrence who make a difference that should be rewarded .....no matter HOW those rewards are brought about...if it takes pressure then so be it in my opinion....it shouldn't do but if it does then good on the pressure bearers.

This is just a cynical political manoeuvre by the lefty morons. What has this woman achieved other than shout about the death of her son? Thousands of Mothers in the same time have had to deal with senseless killings of their children, so why is she any different?, apart from setting up a few charities to try and deal with the problems...these charities dont serve any purpose.. as it doesnt change anything in society... all they do is benefit that moron Milibland who can make political capital from it. I don't think anyone would mind if she stood as an independent, but Labour!!? That idiot Milibland is using her infamy for his own political ends.