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  • gmb45

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    The ONE MILLION people who haven't worked since 1997

    Hardcore: An army of unemployed people have failed to find any work since Labour came to power in 1997

    More than one million jobless Britons have been living off state handouts for more than 12 years, it has emerged.

    A hardcore army of unemployed have failed to find any sort of work since Labour came to power in 1997.

    The true scale of the crisis has been laid bare by figures which break down for the first time the length of time people have been out of work.

    A further 1.9million have been on benefits for seven years or more, according to the Department of Work and Pensions.

    The 1.1million unemployed since 1997 amounts to more than a fifth of the 5.2million currently claiming out-of-work benefits.

    The figures also reveal that youth employment has soared under Labour from 665,000 in 1997 to 888,000 today - a staggering 34 per cent.

    Opposition MPs said the cost to the public purse could be as much as ?4billion. They added that an entire generation has

    permanently dropped out of society, leading to increased family breakdown and crime.

    Official statistics show that the gap between rich and poor has widened under Labour, with the poorest 10 per cent forced to survive on an income of just ?87-aweek compared to ?96 in 1997.

    Health inequalities have also increased, growing 4 per cent for men and 11 per cent for women.

    The revelations will fuel anger on Labour's backbenches that the party has betrayed the most vulnerable in society.

    Frustration boiled over earlier this week when Labour MPs launched a fresh assault on Gordon Brown's controversial decision to abolish the 10p tax band.

    Many fear a backlash from voters on low incomes.

    The figures also make a mockery of Peter Mandelson's claim in 1997 that 'one of the fruits of Labour's success will be that Britain has become a more equal society.'

    Shadow Chancellor George Osborne condemned the statistics, saying: 'The bills of social failure have never been higher than under this Prime Minister.'

    Liberal Democrat work and pensions spokesman Steve Webb said: 'These people have lost all self esteem and the ability to find work and have been written off by this Labour Government.'

    Mark Wallace, from the Taxpayers' Alliance, added: 'The way the Government have structured benefits means there is precious little incentive to start work and people are penalised for doing so.

    'It is time we raised the bottom income tax thresholds to help poor people back into work.'

    The statistics also show that the number of immigrants working in the private sector has doubled since Labour was elected, from-1.4millon to nearly 3million. This rise is the same as the number of jobs created in the sector over the same period.

    In contrast, the number of British-born private workers has dropped slightly, from 17.9million to 17.8million.

    Tory MP Michael Fallon, who sits on the Treasury select committee, said: 'The interesting thing is that in Labour's heartlands where people claim they cannot find jobs or are off work with stress, there are plenty of Poles and Lithuanians finding work.'

    A Department of Work and Pensions spokesman said: 'As a result of Government reforms the number of people on incapacity benefit has fallen after it trebled in the '80s and '90s.

    'Of course some people suffer from serious long-term health problems which prevent them from working but our welfare reforms mean most people are expected to do something in return for support. And the extra help is working to get more people into jobs.'
  • Lainie
    V.I.P. Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 3062

    #2
    not in the slightest surprised. please remember the number on income support for the single and only reason they have kids under 16 (now changed to 12 and will be lowered further). i had no idea you "didnt need to work" purely as you had kids under the qualifying age. when it changed i had a mother on the phone saying she had now to claim jsa (they dont want this as after 6 months on jsa they need to do some kind of training to get benefit). she was absolutely furious that she didnt get income support any more. i quote " i havent worked for over 20 years - are you telling me i need to find work? what about my housing and council tax benefit"

    these kind of people are all too common unfortunately.
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    • Chimaera
      V.I.P. Member
      • Jun 2009
      • 242

      #3
      dont get me started on this subject

      ive expressed my views more than once
      i know im unemployed but at least i try to get work
      http://www.simple-software.co.uk/

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      • Lainie
        V.I.P. Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 3062

        #4
        chim this is not aimed at you in any way. no one has ever said it was - its aimed at the people who dont WANT to work or play the system to benefit themselves. ie take private rents of up to ?1000 a month knowing fine well housing benefit will pay it if they dont work. (soon going to change with the lha thank god) wtf should tax payers have to pay this? id NEVER take accommodation that i couldnt pay for. id say ?400 maximum is the amount anyone should be able to claim in housing benefit a month.there are people out there - gmbs original post confirms that - that simply dont want to work. they have been on benefits for yrs and yrs. you know where i work and if i can help with any job searches for you etc please just pm me. i do NOT and would not need any personal details to do this - just start of postcode so i can get your area and bdc etc
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        • Chimaera
          V.I.P. Member
          • Jun 2009
          • 242

          #5
          no i know its not aimed at me hun

          dont worry
          http://www.simple-software.co.uk/

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          • chroma
            V.I.P. Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 1976

            #6
            if your over 18 months out of work then i think that you should be drafted.

            I mean its never taken me more than a few weeks to find a job, but im willing to do anything wither im qualified or not (i can fake it till i make it if need be)

            After 18 months it shows your not really willing and need some bootcamp to "fix your wagon" after doing a tour i can guarantee anyone would be willing to do just about anything else.
            He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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            • maxi1968
              DK Veteran
              • Feb 2009
              • 417

              #7
              unemployed

              Originally posted by gmb45
              Hardcore: An army of unemployed people have failed to find any work since Labour came to power in 1997

              More than one million jobless Britons have been living off state handouts for more than 12 years, it has emerged.

              A hardcore army of unemployed have failed to find any sort of work since Labour came to power in 1997.

              The true scale of the crisis has been laid bare by figures which break down for the first time the length of time people have been out of work.

              A further 1.9million have been on benefits for seven years or more, according to the Department of Work and Pensions.

              The 1.1million unemployed since 1997 amounts to more than a fifth of the 5.2million currently claiming out-of-work benefits.

              The figures also reveal that youth employment has soared under Labour from 665,000 in 1997 to 888,000 today - a staggering 34 per cent.

              Opposition MPs said the cost to the public purse could be as much as ?4billion. They added that an entire generation has

              permanently dropped out of society, leading to increased family breakdown and crime.

              Official statistics show that the gap between rich and poor has widened under Labour, with the poorest 10 per cent forced to survive on an income of just ?87-aweek compared to ?96 in 1997.

              Health inequalities have also increased, growing 4 per cent for men and 11 per cent for women.

              The revelations will fuel anger on Labour's backbenches that the party has betrayed the most vulnerable in society.

              Frustration boiled over earlier this week when Labour MPs launched a fresh assault on Gordon Brown's controversial decision to abolish the 10p tax band.

              Many fear a backlash from voters on low incomes.

              The figures also make a mockery of Peter Mandelson's claim in 1997 that 'one of the fruits of Labour's success will be that Britain has become a more equal society.'

              Shadow Chancellor George Osborne condemned the statistics, saying: 'The bills of social failure have never been higher than under this Prime Minister.'

              Liberal Democrat work and pensions spokesman Steve Webb said: 'These people have lost all self esteem and the ability to find work and have been written off by this Labour Government.'

              Mark Wallace, from the Taxpayers' Alliance, added: 'The way the Government have structured benefits means there is precious little incentive to start work and people are penalised for doing so.

              'It is time we raised the bottom income tax thresholds to help poor people back into work.'

              The statistics also show that the number of immigrants working in the private sector has doubled since Labour was elected, from-1.4millon to nearly 3million. This rise is the same as the number of jobs created in the sector over the same period.

              In contrast, the number of British-born private workers has dropped slightly, from 17.9million to 17.8million.

              Tory MP Michael Fallon, who sits on the Treasury select committee, said: 'The interesting thing is that in Labour's heartlands where people claim they cannot find jobs or are off work with stress, there are plenty of Poles and Lithuanians finding work.'

              A Department of Work and Pensions spokesman said: 'As a result of Government reforms the number of people on incapacity benefit has fallen after it trebled in the '80s and '90s.

              'Of course some people suffer from serious long-term health problems which prevent them from working but our welfare reforms mean most people are expected to do something in return for support. And the extra help is working to get more people into jobs.'
              the government are now hiding behind the financial crisis hich i believe was created by governments throughout the industrial powers to destableise economys.the rich have been living off the backs of the poor for too long now and the powers that be are running out of ways to exploit the poor.first it was an attack on the sick now its the jobless.how many jobs are really out there,and who would take a job that would leave them worse off than they would be on benefits.

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              • maxi1968
                DK Veteran
                • Feb 2009
                • 417

                #8
                unemployed

                Originally posted by maxi1968
                the government are now hiding behind the financial crisis hich i believe was created by governments throughout the industrial powers to destableise economys.the rich have been living off the backs of the poor for too long now and the powers that be are running out of ways to exploit the poor.first it was an attack on the sick now its the jobless.how many jobs are really out there,and who would take a job that would leave them worse off than they would be on benefits.
                and another thing why are the available jobs going to imigrant workers surley the work should go to unemployed british citizens.am i wrong???????

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                • chroma
                  V.I.P. Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 1976

                  #9
                  Originally posted by maxi1968
                  and another thing why are the available jobs going to imigrant workers surley the work should go to unemployed british citizens.am i wrong???????
                  Because a migrant will work 96hrs a week at ?1.20 per hour without lunch or tea breaks.
                  Would you do the same?
                  He who laughs last thinks slowest.

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                  • maxi1968
                    DK Veteran
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 417

                    #10
                    work

                    Originally posted by chroma
                    Because a migrant will work 96hrs a week at ?1.20 per hour without lunch or tea breaks.
                    Would you do the same?
                    no i would not but chroma what are the government playing at allowing it in the first place.

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